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From tvbarn Tue Jun 25 19:14:23 2002
Subject: Re: Harry Fritz
To: Krlwinslow@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
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I'm almost certain Harry's still teaching there ... it's just that he's
apparently hard to get ahold of!  (That wasn't my experience when I called
him for comment on Ken Burns' LEWIS & CLARK film a few years back, but
maybe he's not sold on the idea of coming to kansas for a month.  That's
where WE come in ....)  Let me know.


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> Gosh - the last I knew he was teaching at the UofM but let me try to find out 
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> he is still in touch with Harry. I'll get back to you.
> Karyl Oh and Congrats to Diane. Neat thing!
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   Esai Morales
   Julie Brown
   Trace Adkins
   Rob Scheider
   
   Bill: Good evening.
   Welcome to "Politically Incorrect," our last live Tuesday show, and my
   good friends are here today.
   Esai Morales.
   We are getting down to the wire here.
   My good boys here.
   We go out often, sometimes in the heterosexual capacity.
   [ Laughter ]
   And I'm surprised you have the time because you're on two shows --
   "NYPD Blue" on ABC and "American Family" on CBS.
   Thank you for making one last trip.
   Julie Brown, somebody else I met on this show, became such a good
   friend of mine.
   Now you're married with a little girl and everything, but you've made
   time to come back for me one more time.
   
   Julie: It's cool.
   
   Bill: Thank you.
   Don't cry.
   [ Light laughter ]
   Trace Adkins, I know you made a special trip 'cause you wanted to come
   here one more time, and I appreciate that.
   [ Mock sobbing ]
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Bill: Don't even start.
   And Rob Schneider, such a great friend of mine.
   
   Rob: Always a pleasure.
   
   Bill: He was the first one to come to my aid when I was attacked by
   the cynics of faux patriotism last year.
   Look at that, and he always brings me something.
   Dom Perignon?
   
   Rob: '93.
   Congratulations.
   
   Bill: What's in the bottle?
   [ Light laughter ]
   All right.
   Give a hand to the panel, please, if you would.
   Thank you.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Now, is that a good vintage '93? Yeah, I think '93 --
   I don't much about that.
   
   Rob: I said, "Go for the '93, spend the extra ten bucks."
   [ Laughter ]
   It's his last week.
   Come on, you gotta do it.
   
   Bill: All right.
   Well, not to cast me with the rich and famous, I do want to talk about
   the rich and famous here because there's a couple of stories in the
   paper that have been obsessing America.
   One is Martha Stewart, and she is kind of saying now that if she
   wasn't famous, it wouldn't be happening to her, and I couldn't notice
   that in the paper today, it said R. Kelly has written a song about his
   problems.
   It's called, "Heaven, I Need a Hug."
   [ Light laughter ]
   I could not make that up.
   "Heaven, I Need a Hug." The "B" side is, "Christ, I Need a Lawyer."
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Julie: The guy is so smart.
   The guy is so smart because it's a title that every kid can sing along
   to.
   
   Rob: He should have got some inside information from Martha Stewart
   about the age of these girls.
   
   Bill: Well, he seems to be implying on the record that it's because
   he's famous.
   The lyric is, "It's all because I'm famous."
   [ Light laughter ]
   They're not that subtle in rap.
   That's the lyric.
   "It's all because I'm famous.
   You know what I'm saying.
   I mean, if I wasn't famous, then all this wouldn't be happening."
   
   Julie: Oh, why didn't he rhyme saying with peeing? I don't get that.
   That's the perfect thing.
   
   Rob: An old girlfriend of mine said that to me.
   She said, "Rob, girls are gonna only want to go out with you now
   because you're famous.
   I want to break it up.
   They're only gonna go out with you because you're famous." And I went,
   "And the problem is?" I know me.
   I need more.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Bill: But that's a good point.
   It's only happening to him because he's famous, but also, I don't
   think girls would allow a person to pee on them if they weren't
   famous.
   [ Audience member groans ]
   
   Rob: Is that from a memory?
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   
   Bill: That's a White girl who just found out what R. Kelly did, but
   that happens a lot.
   So what do you think? Do you think fame helps you or hurts you when
   you get into trouble?
   
   Trace: It helped me.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Bill: What happened to you?
   
   Julie: Did you pee on anybody?
   
   Bill: No, but you were hit by a truck, and you were shot, and you were
   done wrong.
   
   Trace: Yeah, those things.
   No, you know, I was driving around plowed and got pulled over, and I
   went to jail.
   
   Bill: Right.
   
   Trace: And then they made me stay there as long as they make everybody
   else stay there.
   
   Bill: But was this back home?
   
   Trace: Well, it wasn't out here.
   
   Rob: It wasn't because you were famous that they took you in.
   
   Trace: No, that's right.
   They didn't give me any special treatment because I was --
   I ain't really famous, I don't think.
   
   Esai: You were the biggest guy in jail, too.
   Let me tell you, that didn't hurt.
   
   Trace: But you know, but I don't think --
   
   Bill: Well, you're a well-known country music star, and in the country
   --
   this is back home which is where, in Chile?
   
   Trace: Yeah.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: Tennessee is it? I mean, I'm sure you're an icon down there.
   So if they were gonna do something to you --
   What? You know what?
   
   Julie: I just saw that jail face come on.
   
   Bill: People like to point across at the guests and laugh.
   I've always said that about this show.
   Don't point across and laugh.
   
   Rob: I think if you're famous, you also --
   if you're a celebrity, you also have money, which I think could help
   you get out of trouble.
   You can afford a lawyer.
   
   Bill: Well, it helped O.J.
   I mean, sometimes it makes you --
   No?
   [ Applause ]
   Yeah.
   I can't believe we're even debating that point.
   People are like, "I don't know.
   Did it help O.J.?" There wasn't really a mountain of evidence against
   him.
   [ Light laughter ]
   But like Bill Clinton, where somebody who if he had been the president
   of a construction company, I don't think he would have gone through
   what he had to go through when he was found out to be having a
   horrible series of blowjobs.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Rob: Clinton also would not have been able to be in a position he
   always wanted to be, which is a position where he could grope women,
   and that's what he got to do.
   
   Bill: You think you have to be in the position of President to grope
   women?
   
   Rob: I think for Clinton, yes.
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Absolutely.
   
   Esai: I think it's a double-edged sword.
   
   Julie: Of course it is.
   
   Esai: I think it's a double-edged sword.
   That's right.
   
   Trace: I think that even a construction worker would get in a lot of
   trouble for getting a hummer in the Oval Office.
   [ Laughter ]
   Go in there and do that.
   [ Applause ]
   "What are you doing here?"
   
   Rob: And you, we know what you're doing, but that shouldn't be in
   here.
   
   Bill: But, you know, Martha Stewart is really --
   you know, I feel bad for her in a way, and I probably shouldn't.
   She seems like such a bitch.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Rob: She's just a fun person to go after.
   She just is.
   
   Bill: It's fun.
   
   Julie: It helps and it hinders.
   In a case like Martha Stewart, now the press is coming on, and she's
   kind of, like, guilty before proven.
   
   Bill: Oh, please.
   
   Julie: Her stock went down 25% or something, which means she lost
   maybe $25 million over a $200,000 case.
   
   Bill: Her stock went down?
   
   Julie: Yeah.
   
   Bill: Not the stock that she sold the day before.
   
   Julie: No.
   
   Bill: That stock was real good.
   
   Julie: Her personal business has gone down.
   
   Bill: The first line of defense, always, whether it's the priest
   scandal or Watergate, the first line of defense is always, "I saw just
   a few bad apples.
   It's just a couple of rotten --
   " and then people realize, "Oh, you know what? The whole barrel is
   kind of rotten, and that's what, I think, they're coming to realize
   with Martha Stewart.
   She's doing for this what Rock Hudson did for AIDS.
   She's putting a face on it.
   People can go, "Oh, my God, you mean we could lose our money in the
   stock market because the big people are cheating?" Yeah, you could.
   
   Julie: So she could go to jail, huh? She'll have a nicest, prettiest
   jail cell in the world.
   [ Laughter ]
   That woman does wonders.
   
   Bill: We gotta take a commercial.
   We'll be right back.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Rob: I'll get to the airport two weeks ahead of time.
   And I'll sleep there.
   I'll give you my stuff ahead of time, and let's just do what you need
   to do.
   
   Bill: What if we all had to board the plane naked?
   
   Rob: I would insist on it.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Wow.
   And that was --
   does that say 1996? Yeah, that was before we were going through all
   this terrorism stuff.
   Look how ahead we were, huh? No one listened, of course.
   All right.
   So interesting that came up because I wanted to talk about the movie,
   "The Sum of All Fears," which I saw.
   It's a pretty --
   it's a really entertaining action picture, but I'm a sucker for the
   summer popcorn movies.
   But you know what? I found out that in the book, the bad guys, the
   terrorists are Muslims.
   Are, you know, Arab terrorists.
   They changed it to Neo-Nazis in the film, which to me is the sum of
   all selling out.
   If we cannot think --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Rob: Please.
   More mild applause, please.
   More mild applause.
   
   Bill: Exactly, right.
   I think I just made a putt on the 18th at Pebble Green.
   Pebble Beach, whatever.
   
   Rob: 30-foot putt.
   
   Bill: If you can't be real about who you're fighting, can you win the
   war, is really the question that begs.
   
   Rob: My side is that I don't know one person who feels good about a
   negative portrayal of Arabs in pictures, movies --
   Am I speaking?
   [ Light laughter ]
   What I'm afraid of now is now we're gonna have --
   What the new thing now is they're gonna be some real Neo-Nazi bashing.
   That's what I'm afraid of.
   [ Laughter ]
   Some of the Neo-Nazis are targets.
   
   Bill: Yeah.
   
   Esai: Neo-Nazis, by definition, are haters.
   So you know, they're guilty.
   The Muslim community doesn't need anymore profiling.
   
   Bill: No, but the movie isn't profiling all Muslims.
   They're just saying --
   like, Ed Zwick made that movie a few years ago, "The Siege"? Remember,
   he got all that heat with Bruce Willis.
   Remember the one with Bruce Willis and Denzel about Arab terrorists
   who set bombs off in New York, and the Arabs were very mad at that.
   And what is their complaint now? It smacks of truthism?
   
   Esai: How about this? How about the fact that, you know, what we see
   on movies sometimes then we end up seeing for real? Why give the White
   supremacists anymore airtime? That was my only problem with this.
   My other thing is that, look, Arabs come in all sizes and shapes and
   colors.
   I've seen White Arabs.
   I've seen Black Arabs and everything in between.
   They cannot always be the bad guys in movies.
   Can't we be a little more imaginative?
   
   Bill: They're not always --
   
   Julie: They're not always the bad guys.
   
   Esai: After awhile, I mean --
   Let's make a list.
   
   Rob: If you're gonna have the Neo-Nazis, you know, from the United
   Arab Emirate States --
   the Neo-Nazis are from the Middle East.
   You have to have, you know, some truth.
   
   Bill: We're talking about the people who are, like, trying to bomb
   America.
   
   Julie: Exactly.
   
   Bill: Who mostly is trying to bomb America? Should we pretend that
   it's equally spread out across the world? Should we do that? Would
   that help fight the problem? Trace, you're a redneck.
   What do you think about this?
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Rob: Come on.
   I gotta defend him.
   
   Trace: It's much more fun for Hollywood to make fun of ignorant
   rednecks from the South than it is to make fun of Muslim men 18 to 40,
   who are the ones that are blowing everything up and killing everybody
   and all that kind of --
   I got no problem with it.
   I'll racially profile every Muslim in America, as far as I'm
   concerned.
   I mean, you know, come on, man.
   Let's get real about the thing.
   It's not the Neo-Nazis that are going around blowing stuff up.
   I don't even see any of 'em anywhere.
   Where are they all at?
   
   Rob: Let's just say just the Arabs from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.
   Let's be honest.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Julie: But the question is, is the movie "Sum of All Fears" guilty or
   not guilty of, like, you know, did they make a smart choice? Yeah,
   they made a smart choice because nobody wants to see --
   I don't think anybody wants to see a nuclear explosion except for, you
   know, Arab terrorists.
   And so yeah, they made a smart move because it's too close to home,
   and it's basically movies are for the audience, and it's not for
   someone like you and me, who have --
   
   Bill: But this is a movie that touches on something --
   that touches on our lives right now.
   
   Julie: Yeah.
   
   Esai: It's fear mongering, though.
   It's all fear mongering.
   
   Julie: We fall into the --
   
   Trace: How come when they made a movie like "Mississippi Burning,"
   they didn't get these Muslim guys to be the one hanging all the Black
   people?
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   [ Laughter ]
   'Cause that's not the way it happened.
   
   Bill: Exactly.
   
   Trace: Son of a bitch, come on, man.
   
   Bill: Yeah, right.
   
   Julie: You can't go on that because whenever there's a Black movement
   in America where something Black and terrible is happening, then they
   put a movie out where something --
   a Black movie out where something's Black and terrible and happening.
   And Black people just go, "See, told you."
   
   Rob: When White supremacists get a little bit more likable, when they
   get a little bit more --
   
   Julie: More friendly?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Rob: Yeah.
   
   Trace: They get a new publicist.
   Yeah.
   
   Esai: There's a lot of hate in the world, and it doesn't reside only
   in Muslim-Americans.
   We have to be fair.
   Not all English people --
   
   Trace: It's not the Muslim-Americans that we're talking about.
   
   Bill: Right.
   
   Esai: Well, they just happen to be the most successful bombers.
   Before that, a guy who looked just like you was the most successful
   mass murderer in this country.
   
   Trace: Hey, he didn't even have any hair, man.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Esai: I'm just saying, it's the last biggest bomb that seems to point
   out our enemies.
   
   Julie: The last biggest bomb?
   
   Esai: I'm just saying, September 11th was the biggest catastrophe.
   Before that, it was Timothy McVeigh.
   Before that, what was it?
   
   Bill: I'm not worried that there are a lot more Timothy McVeigh's out
   there.
   Timothy McVeigh didn't have a huge well of support around the world.
   The people who bombed the World Trade Center and the Pentagon do.
   And you know --
   
   Esai: There's a reason why.
   Why, why do they have that support around the world?
   
   Bill: That's another issue, and we probably would agree more on that.
   
   Esai: Thank you.
   Whoever the lone person out there is.
   I just say that we do a lot of things that we don't want to admit and
   we don't want to face up to, and that's part of the reason we have so
   much bad press around the world.
   
   Bill: Absolutely.
   
   Esai: Now, we gotta clean up at home as well as our outer image.
   But I don't think it is just by always having Muslim-Americans be the
   bad guys.
   Italians hated being the gangsters for so many years.
   
   Julie: They're not always the bad guys.
   They're just the bad guys right now.
   
   Rob: In a lot of Hollywood movies, but that's kind of silly.
   But just right now, it kind of resonates with some real --
   with some reality because of their --
   
   Esai: Do you remember "Red Dawn"? Remember what that was? That was red
   baiting.
   Russia could have never done any of that.
   It was not real, you know.
   
   Bill: Russia couldn't have taken over the world? Russia was trying to
   take over the world.
   
   Esai: Russia's wall came down.
   The CIA didn't even know what was going on.
   How if are we when the FBI doesn't know about the 9/11.
   The CIA didn't know the Berlin Wall was coming down.
   
   Rob: Russia was broke in 1970.
   
   Julie: Didn't know or didn't say?
   
   Esai: Didn't say is really what's going on.
   You're right.
   Didn't say.
   
   Bill: What about the --
   
   Julie: We're not stupid.
   
   Bill: What about the --
   
   Rob: We need bad guys in Hollywood.
   
   Bill: What was the one in Somalia?
   
   Julie: I'm sorry, Bill, I can't hear you.
   
   Bill: Yes, the movie that was just --
   
   Esai: "Blackhawk Down."
   
   Bill: "Blackhawk Down" got a bunch of angry mob of Somalians protested
   that they were portrayed as an angry mob of Somalians.
   [ Light laughter ]
   I get it.
   It smacked of truthism.
   You know, I hate that.
   
   Rob: They could've filmed half of the sequel.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Esai: This happened to me.
   I was a kid.
   I was growing up in New York.
   I saw a movie called "Fort Apache
   : The Bronx."
   
   Bill: Yeah, I remember it.
   Paul Newman.
   
   Esai: And I saw it, and it was a wonderful Hollywood-type movie,
   except all the Puerto Ricans were bad guys or the one lone female
   nurse that Paul Newman, you know, was dating.
   
   Bill: Rachel Ticotin.
   
   Esai: Rachel Ticotin.
   
   Rob: Wait a minute, now.
   Some of those Puerto Ricans also played pimps.
   
   Esai: That's true.
   That's true.
   [ Laughter ]
   No, you're right.
   You're right.
   But what I'm trying to say that it hurt me to see the only Puerto
   Rican woman or the only Latina, you know, at the end of the movie had
   needle tracks on her legs like she's a junkie, too.
   What I'm saying is when I walked through, I saw us, meaning a lot of
   Latinos and Blacks protesting the movie.
   And they were screaming like animals, "We are not animals," and that
   didn't get lost on me.
   I tell you what, I understand what you're saying.
   
   Rob: Most of these writers, they're like White guys.
   
   Julie: I can't believe you take movies so seriously.
   
   Esai: Well, you have to because --
   
   Bill: You have to because people do.
   
   Esai: And it's the image that's not only promoted here, it's promoted
   around the world, so we're always the butt of everybody's joke.
   
   Rob: I'm more worried about Hollywood --
   
   Julie: And what a nice butt we have.
   
   Trace: Yeah.
   
   Rob: I'm more worried about the movies being good than putting out bad
   myths out there 'cause I think people can just --
   you know, people are smarter than we give them credit for.
   
   Bill: Then they should just go to the store and rent "The Animal" if
   they want to see a good movie.
   We have to take a commercial.
   [ Applause ]
   
   That is not right.
   That is not right.
   What is right is President Clinton is the first President since World
   War II to reduce the deficit three years in a row.
   It now stands at its lowest point since --
   for a long, long time.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: I was gonna say.
   Man is 49 years old.
   He's wearing a tree fort.
   
   Trace: Buster Brown shirt.
   
   Bill: Yeah.
   You said you wanted to say something?
   
   Esai: You said something about how smart the population is, and the
   population is smart, but it's a limited smart.
   Because how smart are we? And I want to ask the audience this.
   When we allow a show like "Politically Incorrect" to get yanked off
   the air, we gotta stop.
   We gotta say, "Hey, this is the only chance that Americans basically
   get to say kinda what's close to on their mind.
   We still are on TV."
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Rob: There's no shows that really talk.
   There are very few shows where you can actually hear opinions and
   people talking about stuff.
   And this is really the last show where we can prove it, if anybody had
   any nagging doubts, that actors aren't really that smart.
   
   Esai: That's right.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Rob: And this show is able to show that.
   [ Applause ]
   It's a shame, but the media is all --
   It's a conglomerate now, and it's all owned.
   The difference between --
   You know, Noam Chomsky said about "Pravda" and "Tass" and "The New
   York Times" and "The L.A. Times" that people in Russia knew that
   "Pravda" and "Tass" was, like, B.S.
   
   Bill: Right.
   
   Rob: They've counted on a word of mouth.
   The difference is, in the United States, people believe "The New York
   Times" and "The L.A. Times."
   
   Bill: Wow.
   I think that proves all actors aren't dumb.
   That's an incredibly good point.
   [ Applause ]
   And where do you get off quoting Noam Chomsky? No, I never heard that.
   That is so true, right.
   And in this country, we believe what we read.
   We believe what we see because we --
   That's why I called my last HBO special, you know this, "Be More
   Cynical." People need to be more cynical.
   They --
   you always hear this stuff about "We're too cynical." No.
   We're way too naive.
   
   Rob: Who benefits from this? You can read an article in the paper, who
   benefits from this, from this information that's being put out there?
   
   Bill: Yes.
   Like follow the money.
   That kind of stuff.
   That's true with everything in this country.
   If you follow the money, including Martha Stewart and that kind of
   stuff.
   I'm not picking on her, but I mean, if you follow the money in
   situations, you usually find out where it leads.
   And you know, to bring it back to what we were talking about --
   
   Rob: But nothing gets --
   usually the Martha Stewarts don't get discovered or whatever.
   It just happens that it got found out somehow.
   Usually the media just has this rolling monster that just keeps
   moving.
   Every once in awhile, it'll stumble on something, then somebody will
   ask a question.
   Usually the reporters, that are so indoctrinated, they would never get
   to be a reporter of "The New York Times" unless they thought along the
   same lines as all those other people.
   
   Julie: Well, I think the lucky part about having Bill on any network
   anywhere is that the fact that it wasn't just having somebody opening
   up his mind or saying what's on other's people's mind.
   It was the fact that we had somebody that actually listened to what
   was going on out there.
   [ Applause ]
   He actually listens.
   
   Bill: I --
   Let me take a commercial before you all get me all sentimental.
   We're gonna save that for Friday.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you.
   You're all good friends.
   
   Julie: Thank you.
   
   Bill: I promise I didn't put them up to that.
   
   Trace: I always wanted to say this.
   You pissed me off so bad, I ain't never coming back on this show.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   
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From tvbarn Fri Jun 28 07:17:56 2002
Subject: Re: Movie Access Update- June 28 to July 4
To: mary_watkins@wgbh.org
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:17:56 -0700 (PDT)
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What do we know about the Eden Prairie AMC?  We plan to be in Mpls the
second week of July and would really like to check out a DVS/CC equipped
theater.  Do we have an ETA?

> More great news. AMC Theatres, already a major player in providing =
> captioning and description to movie fans of all ages in major cities, =
> plans to equip five more theaters with Rear Window Captioning and DVS Theat=
> rical. The new installations will debut shortly in Eden Prairie, MN (=
> outside Minneapolis-St. Paul), in San Francisco, San Jose, San Diego and =
> Orange, CA. More information will be shared as soon as AMC and WGBH =
> confirm equipment arrival, installation and, of course, the first MoPixed =
> films to debut at these theaters! =20
> 
> Famous Players, Canada's largest theatre chain, now has twenty MoPix =
> installations spanning four provinces-- Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba=
>  and Ontario. And there's more good news, Famous Players will eventually =
> install a total of 50 installations throughout Canada.
> <http://www.famousplayers.com/Static/AV_Enhancements.asp> links to the =
> Famous Players Web site, which gives theaters currently equipped as well =
> as available films and showtimes.
> 
> And there's another IMAX theater installation to report.  The Virginia =
> Marine Science Museum's IMAX Theatre in Virginia Beach will have a MoPix =
> installation within the next several weeks.   =20
> 
> SEND A NOTE... REALLY, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE!
> 
> Take a moment to share your thoughts about enjoying access to first-run =
> feature films. When you send us a message, it is passed along to theater =
> chains and to movie studios, providing encouragement for them to caption =
> and describe more films, and to install access systems in more locations.=20
> 
> OUR NUMBER ONE QUESTION
> 
> What can I do to get closed captioned and described films closer to my home=
> ? We've assembled a list of headquarters of major theater chains-- let =
> them know you're eager to see accessible films, eat their popcorn and be a =
> regular customer. The link to the list of chains is <http://ncam.wgbh.org/=
> mopix/chains.html>
> 
> 
> NOW PLAYING
> 
> Currently available with closed captions using the Rear Window Captioning =
> system, and audio descriptions utilizing the DVS Theatrical System:
> 
> 
> LILO & STITCH, from Buena Vista Pictures (cc and dvs)
> (rated PG)
> 
> MINORITY REPORT, starring Tom Cruise and directed by Steven Spielberg, =
> from 20th Century Fox Film Corporation (cc and dvs)
> (rated PG-13)
> 
> SCOOBY-DOO, starring Sarah Michelle Gellar and Freddie Prinze Jr., from =
> Warner Bros. Pictures (cc and dvs)
> (rated PG)
> 
> STAR WARS: EPISODE II - ATTACK OF THE CLONES, starring Hayden Christensen, =
> Natalie Portman, Ewan McGregor and Samuel L. Jackson, from 20th Century =
> Fox Film Corporation (cc and dvs)
> (rated PG)=20
> 
> ESPN'S ULTIMATE X: THE MOVIE, a large format film about extreme games from =
> Buena Vista Pictures (cc and dvs), at the IMAX theater at National =
> Amusements The Bridge, Los Angeles
> (rated PG)
> 
> SPIDER-MAN, starring Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst, from Sony Pictures (=
> cc and dvs)=20
> (rated PG-13)
> 
> Information about theaters equipped with the closed captioning and audio =
> description systems, debut dates, showtimes and directions to the theaters =
> appear below. =A0
> 
> COMING SOON
> 
> Dates subject to change by the studios. Additional titles to be announced =
> as soon as they are confirmed.
> 
> 
> * MEN IN BLACK II, starring Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, from Sony =
> Pictures (cc and dvs), will debut July 3
> 
> * ROAD TO PERDITION, starring Tom Hanks, from DreamWorks Pictures (cc and =
> dvs) scheduled for a July 12 debut
> 
> * STUART LITTLE 2 from Sony Pictures (cc and dvs) scheduled for a July 19 =
> debut
> 
> more films...
> 
> * SIGNS, starring Mel Gibson, from Buena Vista Pictures (cc with descriptio=
> ns to be determined) scheduled for a August 2 debut
> * THE TUXEDO from DreamWorks Pictures (cc only) scheduled for an October 4 =
> release
> * THE RING from DreamWorks Pictures (cc only) scheduled for an October 18 =
> release
> 
> ... and many more to come.
> 
> IMAX FILMS
> Find a complete list of described and or closed captioned large format =
> films, as well as locations of accessible theaters, at <http://ncam.wgbh.=
> org/mopix/nowshowing.html>.
> 
> THEATER LOCATIONS=20
> 
> LOCATIONS IN THE U.S.
> 
> CALIFORNIA/Los Angeles
> 
> 1. Coming Soon! AMC 30 AT THE BLOCK=20
> 20 City Boulevard West
> Orange
> 
> 2. =A0AMC Sherman Oaks, 818 986-3078 (voice)
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:00  3:15  6:30  10:00 PM
> 
> 3. =A0Loews Cineplex/Universal City Cinemas at CityWalk
> Theater 5
> 100 Universal City Plaza
> Universal City =A0818 508-0711 (voice)
> LILO & STITCH  (please phone the theater to confirm times)
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  11:25 AM  2:00  4:30  6:45  9:10 PM
> 
> 
> 4. National Amusements The Bridge: cinema de lux
> 6081 Center Drive
> Los Angeles  310 568-9950 (voice)
> ESPN'S ULTIMATE X: THE MOVIE showing daily at 11:30 AM  2:00  4:30 PM   =20
> 
> SPACE STATION 3D showing daily at  10:15 AM  12:45  3:15  5:45 PM
> 
> MINORITY REPORT showing daily at 7:30 PM
> 
> 5. & 6.-- Coming Soon
> Two equipped auditoriums at the Mann Chinese 6 cinema complex.
> 
> CALIFORNIA/San Diego
> Coming Soon! AMC Fashion Valley 18
> 7037 Friars Road
> San Diego
> 
> CALIFORNIA/San Francisco
> 1. Coming Soon! AMC Van Ness 14
> 1000 Van Ness Avenue
> San Francisco
> 
> 2. Loews Theatre at Metreon
> Theater #13
> 101 Fourth Street
> San Francisco
> MINORITY REPORT is playing in the access-equipped auditorium.  Please call =
> the Guest Services Phone Line: 415 369-6201 (voice) to learn about =
> showtimes for this film with closed captions and descriptive narration.
> 
> CALIFORNIA/San Jose Area
> Coming Soon! AMC Mercado 20
> 3111 Mission College Blvd.
> Mercado Santa Clara Center
> Santa Clara=20
> 
> 
> GEORGIA/Atlanta
> AMC Parkway Pointe 15, 770 937-0730 (voice)
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:45  4:00  7:15  10:30 PM
> 
> 
> ILLINOIS/Chicago Area=20
> 1. =A0AMC Yorktown, 630 495-0012 (voice)
> Lombard
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  11:30 AM  2:30  5:30  8:30 PM (+11:30 Fri/=
> Sat night)  =20
> 
> 2. =A0AMC City North, 773 394-1600 (voice)
> Chicago
> (No film this week.)
> 
> 
> LOUISIANA/New Orleans Area
> 1. AMC Palace 20 - Elmwood, Theater #1
> 1200 Elmwood Park Blvd.
> Harahan  504 733-2029
> LILO & STITCH
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  11:00 AM  1:30  4:30 PM
> 
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  7:45  11:10 PM
> 
> 2. AMC Palace 12 - Clearview, Theater #1
> 4436 Veterans Blvd.
> Metairie, LA =A0504 887-1257
> LILO & STITCH
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  7:25  9:30 PM (+11:35 PM Fri/Sat night)
> 
> 
> MARYLAND/Balimore Area
> AMC Owings Mills  443 394-0060 (voice)
> (No film this week.)
> 
> 
> MASSACHUSETTS/Boston Area
> 1. =A0AMC Fenway Theatre, 617 424-6111 (voice)
> SCOOBY-DOO
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:15  2:30  5:10  7:30  9:45 PM (+11:45 Fri/=
> Sat night)=20
>  =20
> 2. =A0AMC Framingham 16, 508 875-6151 (voice)
> STAR WARS: EPISODE II - ATTACK OF THE CLONES
> Fri. June 28 & Sat. June 29  12:30  3:45  7:00  10:15 PM
> Sun. June 20 to Thurs. July 4  12:30  3:45  7:00  10:00 PM
> =20
> 
> 3. National Amusements Showcase Cinema Revere
> 565 Squire Road
> Revere, 781 284-5700 (voice)
> LILO & STITCH
> Fri. June 28 and Sat. June 30  9:35  11:45 AM  2:00  4:25  6:50  9:10  11:=
> 10 PM
> Sun. June 31 to Tues. July 2  11:45 AM  2:00  4:25  6:50  9:10 PM
> 
> 
> MINNESOTA/Minneapolis-St. Paul Area
> 1.  Coming Soon! AMC Eden Prairie Mall 18
> 4000 Flying Cloud Drive
> Eden Prairie
> 
> 2. & 3.  Coming Soon, 2 Installations! Crown Theater Block E Movie Complex
> Minneapolis
> (late summer construction completion estimated)
> 
> 
> NEW JERSEY/Clifton (outside NYC)
> AMC Clifton Commons, Clifton, NJ, 973 614-0966 (voice)
> SCOOBY-DOO
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  11:25  2:00  4:30  7:00  9:40 PM (+12 AM Fri/=
> Sat night)
> 
> 
> NEW YORK/Bronx
> AMC Bay Plaza, 718 320-1659 (voice)
> (No film this week.)
> 
> 
> PENNSYLVANIA/Philadelphia area
> AMC Plymouth Meeting, 610 397-0780 (voice)
> STAR WARS: EPISODE II - ATTACK OF THE CLONES
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:30  3:45  7:00  10:00 PM=20
> 
> 
> VIRGINIA
> 1. AMC Springfield Mall, 703 971-4203 (voice)
> Springfield
> SPIDER-MAN
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  1:15  4:15  7:10  9:50 PM
> 
> 2. Coming Soon! Virginia Marine Science Museum IMAX Theater
> 717 General booth Blvd.
> Virginia Beach  757 437-4949
> Stay tuned for information on the debut of the access systems and =
> showtimes.
> =20
> 
> WASHINGTON
> 1. AMC Pacific Place, 206 652-8908 (voice)
> SCOOBY-DOO (Please phone theater to confirm showtimes)
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:50  3:10  5:20  7:45  10:10 PM=20
> 
> 2. Cinerama
> 2100 4th Avenue
> Seattle 206 441-3653 (voice)
> (No film this week.)
> 
> 
> WISCONSIN/Milwaukee Area
> AMC Mayfair Mall, 414 777-0467 (voice)
> Wauwatosa
> SCOOBY-DOO
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:00  2:20  4:40  7:10  9:30 PM
> 
> 
> LOCATIONS IN CANADA
> 
> Famous Players Theatres:
> <http://www.famousplayers.com/Static/AV_Enhancements.asp>
> 
> Alberta
> 
> Paramount Chinook Centre
> 6455 Macleod Trail S.W.
> Calgary
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:35  3:45  7:10  10:30
> 
> MEN IN BLACK II
> Wed. July 3 & Fri. July 4  12:00  2:30  5:00  7:40  10:20 PM
> 
> SilverCity West Edmonton Mall
> Edmonton
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:50  4:00  7:15  10:40 PM
> 
> MEN IN BLACK II
> Wed. July 3 & Thurs. July 4  12:00  2:30  5:00  7:40  10:20 PM
> 
> British Columbia
> 
> SilverCity Metropolis
> 4700 Kingsway Avenue
> Burnaby
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  12:30  4:00  7:30  10:45 PM
> 
> MEN IN BLACK II
> Wed. July 3 & Thurs. July 4  12:00  2:30  5:00  7:40  10:20 PM
> 
> Famous Players Colussus Langley
> 20090 91A Avenue
> Langley
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  1:15  4:30  7:50  10:50 PM
> 
> MEN IN BLACK II
> Wed. July 3 & Thurs. July 4  12:00  2:30  5:00  7:40  10:20 PM
> 
> SilverCity Riverport
> 14211 Entertainment Way
> Richmond
> MINORITY REPORT
> Fri. June 28 to Tues. July 2  1:00  4:15  7:40  11:00 PM
> 
> MEN IN BLACK II
> Wed. July 3 & Thurs. July 4  12:00  2:30  5:00  7:40  10:20 PM
> 
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   Larry Miller
   Tim Robbins
   Michael Moore
   Genevieve Wood
   
   Bill: That's funny.
   Hi, welcome to "Politically Incorrect." Our last real show because
   tomorrow is our finale and that will be a special finale.
   And here to join me tonight, Mr. Tim Robbins came by not because he's
   a big movie star, because he likes this show.
   
   Tim: That's right.
   
   Bill: Because we never pander to movie stars and God knows they never
   pander to us.
   [ Laughter ]
   But, and you're an Oscar-nominated director --
   Actor's Gang Theater is your group out here in L.A. and your play,
   "The Guys," opening July 10th.
   It's about a 9/11 New York Fire Captain challenged with writing
   eulogies for firefighters.
   That sounds interesting.
   Thank you for coming by one more time.
   
   Tim: My pleasure.
   
   Bill: Genevieve Wood, I'm so glad you came back one time.
   I don't know how many times you've been here but it's a lot.
   You're always a great guest.
   You're a political commentator and the spokeswoman for the Family
   Research Council.
   Michael Moore, your book is number one.
   "Stupid White Men." And your new film, "Bowling for Columbine" out in
   November, and you are my good friend.
   And Larry Miller and I go back to the clubs in New York.
   1979 Larry Miller was one of the, I think he was on the very first
   show we ever did of "Politically Incorrect" in 1993.
   He's been on here probably 25 times.
   And I've never liked him.
   Please, give a hand to this panel, if you would.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: I forgot to mention that Larry has "A Guy Thing" with Julia
   Styles, opening this fall and "A Mighty Wind," opening later this
   year.
   And by the way, I've been with you on nights when you produced a
   mighty wind and that's why I don't like you.
   [ Laughter ]
   No, I'm kidding.
   All right, so Michael Moore, you have a big "I told you so" coming to
   the United States of America, don't you? Because who was more on the
   side of corporate America is greedy, evil and arrogant --
   and now a word from our sponsor.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Genevieve: You can say that now, it's great.
   
   Bill: --
   That Michael Moore.
   My God, I was watching "Martha Stewart Living" today and she was
   actually cooking the book.
   [ Laughter ]
   So you have every right, I think, with everything that is going on --
   
   Larry: You know, that's funny.
   [ Laughter ]
   Now why can't we have more of that?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: So, speaking of fuzzy math, George Bush was outraged the other
   day, I heard him say, when he found out about Worldcom, the latest in
   corporate malfeasance going down the books, down the drain.
   So, you think he really has a right to be outraged the way he says he
   is? I mean, isn't his --
   he was always against campaign finance reform.
   It seems like he's against business --
   outraged at business practices that really wouldn't be flourishing if
   he practiced a different form of government.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   Listen.
   Bush is, these people are all thieves, all right? And I don't feel "I
   told you so," in fact I would never want to --
   I feel bad that we're at this point.
   I mean, that these people have gotten away with so much.
   I mean, you think about this.
   Not just Worldcom, not just Enron, Tyco, you go down the whole list.
   This has been going on for a long, long Time.
   Not just during Bush two, it was during Bush one, it was during
   Clinton.
   
   Tim: The deregulation was signed by Clinton.
   
   Michael: Telecommunications Act, '96.
   
   Tim: And backed by a Republican Congress.
   This is where it all started to fall apart.
   
   Bill: Deregulation, what are you talking about?
   
   Michael: The Telecommunications Act that allowed Worldcom, MCI, to get
   away with what they get away with, to expand and merge without
   regulation, which is what these people, which is what the Bush's
   wanted.
   They want it.
   They created this whole system.
   It's not gonna be enough just to send the head of Worldcom to jail.
   I mean, they all belong in jail.
   You've got people in this state, there's a guy up in San Quentin
   because he sold a ball cap from Mervins.
   I mean, you know, we put a lot of people in jail.
   For a lot of things, and we never put these people in jail.
   So they all do belong in jail but there's a much bigger problem with
   the system.
   
   Bill: Yes.
   
   Michael: The system has got to change.
   Not just the accounting system.
   
   Bill: In 1973 the average CEO made 45 times what the worker, average
   worker made.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   
   Bill: In 2000, 450 Times.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   
   Bill: So, in 25 years, yeah, I mean, I agree, a groan.
   It went from 40 times, which is a lot more than the average, to 450
   times.
   That's an earnings raise of 4,300%.
   
   Larry: By the way, forgive me, in the interest of full disclosure, as
   a sweatshop owner --
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Larry: Excuse me, Michael, you find an unhappy worker there.
   [ Laughter ]
   They don't feel pain like us, don't you understand?
   [ Laughter ]
   If you can sew, piecework is the way to go.
   
   Tim: No matter what their age is.
   
   Michael: That's right, that's right.
   
   Larry: You need the tiny hands for the tiny shoes, you know?
   
   Michael: As long as they've got a big picture of you there, Larry, to
   look at, you know, while they're working, you know? It inspires them.
   Larry Miller.
   
   Larry: You know what, by the way? I don't know when this has been
   different.
   I mean, I don't know, I honestly don't know --
   
   Bill: I just told you.
   That 25 years --
   [ Laughter ]
   I just read the statistics.
   45 times --
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Larry: Wait a minute, the whole hands up thing in the middle of a
   sentence, that's what this means.
   [ Laughter ]
   That I don't know --
   
   Tim: Who's gonna suffer the consequences of this? It's gonna be the
   people that work for these corporations that are unemployed now
   because there are going to be cutbacks and rollbacks and what happens
   ultimately when these industries start to fail is --
   the crime has ramifications throughout society through many economic
   levels.
   Eventually, more crime is wreaked because of the economy being more
   and more depressed by these kind of corporate criminals.
   
   Larry: I don't disagree with that, but --
   
   Tim: Nine times out of ten the government's gonna bail them out with
   some kind of corporate welfare and it's all going to be paid for by
   us.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Genevieve: They're always throwing in some culture thing here, though.
   These aren't the only bad guys.
   I mean, you obviously have people at Worldcom but there's all other
   industries all over, whether it's politics and the like, where you got
   people lying and stealing and cheating.
   And what's amazing is I think we're so tuned into it right now because
   it affects our money.
   I mean, I would say --
   look, yeah, we have stock in these companies and we're obviously upset
   about it but I think we have stock in our country, so I was upset when
   Bill Clinton was running around chasing interns --
   Bill, I had to bring it up on the last show, I had to for you.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Genevieve: Let me finish!
   
   Bill: Billions of dollars out the back door because people like this
   are watching about the interest.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Genevieve: God forbid, while he's chasing interns and --
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Bill: Thank you for falling into my trap one more time.
   
   Tim: Look into my eyes, you will now be distracted by an affair.
   
   Bill: Exactly.
   
   Genevieve: No, no, no.
   I'm talking about culture and I would also bring up he was some
   interesting shenanigans with the Chinese Communists he was bringing to
   the White House.
   The point is --
   when you turn your back on the chief executive of the country and act
   like what he's doing behind closed doors is okay, what are you
   signaling to other people in the country?
   
   Michael: Let me tell you what tonight is, Genevieve.
   Tonight is the eve of the day when 17,000 people at Worldcom are gonna
   lose their jobs.
   
   Genevieve: That's right.
   
   Michael: All right? And this is all part and parcel of a system that
   Bush and the people before him helped set up so that few people could
   get rich and everybody else here has to worry about where the
   paycheck's gonna come from next month.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Michael: Listen to the people.
   
   Genevieve: Hey.
   Nobody here was upset when the stock was going up.
   They weren't even paying attention to it.
   The point is, nobody cares until they lose their money.
   How about we should be paying attention to lying, cheating and
   stealing the whole time, not just when we lose our money.
   [ Applause ]
   It matters across the board.
   
   Bill: You're right.
   The people are easily distracted, as Tim was just pointing out.
   
   Genevieve: As long as things are going well, they don't really say --
   
   Michael: When you draw up in the working class, they hold these
   carrots out there and they say, "You know what, if you just do this,
   you'll be like the rich man.
   You'll have the house like him, you'll have the car like him." And so
   in the 80s and 90s it was the 401k.
   "Invest in the stock market.
   Now we're all owners of America." No, the stock market was the rich
   man's game and it's set up and it's rigged so that the top 10% make
   all the money and the people lose the money.
   
   Genevieve: Michael, the point is, who was paying attention in the 80s
   and 90s? Who was paying attention? Lying and cheating and stealing and
   people didn't pay much attention 'cause they were raking the money in.
   
   Tim: Are you saying that if there was no shenanigans in the White
   House that this wouldn't have happened?
   
   Bill: Yeah.
   
   Genevieve: No.
   My point --
   I'm talking about --
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Audience ohs ]
   [ Scattered applause ]
   
   Genevieve: No.
   
   Larry: Let's move on.
   
   Genevieve: I'm just saying, it's always easy to pick on big business
   and make them look like bad guys and that they don't have --
   
   Bill: It's easy because they're crooks.
   
   Michael: You know, I don't have to make them look like anything
   anymore.
   It's a daily "Roger and Me," now, right? I don't have to toot us
   anymore.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Michael: The point is, I would say that some of the business leaders
   might be falling --
   
   Michael: It's a family show.
   
   Genevieve: I think it's a cultural indicator, as you might say and
   that it's not just businesses, as I mentioned earlier, kids are
   cheating at higher levels on tests than they ever have.
   I mean, you think we ought to think about this culturally, why that
   people think they can just get away with --
   and they have no problem with.
   
   Tim: Because maybe they see the richest people in this country got
   there by cheating.
   
   Genevieve: Or the president, for instance, lying and getting away with
   it.
   
   Bill: It's because of his penis.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Tim: Also, by the way, when these guys get caught, all of our children
   see --
   
   Genevieve: These guys are going to prison.
   
   Tim: Oh, for how long, and what kind of prison?
   
   Genevieve: Bill Clinton never went anywhere.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Tim: When they come out they still got plenty of K.
   So don't talk to me about --
   
   Genevieve: Bill Clinton's got plenty of k, and extra on the side too.
   
   Tim: These little kids, they're seeing this and they're going, "Wow,
   you can do that, billions of dollars and get two years in jail."
   
   Genevieve: Or you can lie to the country and still be President.
   Isn't that a great signal that we send our children?
   
   Bill: I have to take a break.
   Blow my head off.
   
   Genevieve: You think you can ignore it.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Larry: You know, oddly enough in this case, I agree with Bill.
   Bill, right?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: Oh.
   [ Applause ]
   Okay.
   
   Larry: By the way, you know what? You know what's really sad? That's
   next week.
   
   Michael: Bill, tell me just before you go onto the next topic, though.
   Talk about corporate crime.
   There's something that just --
   I mean, it's just really been bothering me.
   And it's about this show.
   It's the fact that Disney, which owns ABC, has canceled this thing.
   Now, let me tell you something.
   I just think at a time when we have so many problems facing this
   country, this has not been a very good year for America.
   I mean, we're faced with a lot of crap right now.
   This is not the time to be reducing the number of voices that we have
   on television where there's discussion about the issues.
   We need more discussion of the issues.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   I have --
   let me just say this.
   I want to just say this.
   It --
   it lessens the democracy when you have less discussion.
   You need more discussion.
   You need more people informed.
   You need more people thinking about this.
   I don't care about the ratings.
   Listen --
   
   Bill: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
   That bothers me.
   Wait a second.
   This show is not going away because of the ratings.
   The audience --
   
   Michael: That's what I read.
   What is that all about?
   
   Bill: That --
   See, Mike, that's why I am not mad at the network.
   I am mad at the press because they got the story wrong.
   We didn't go away because the audience went away.
   
   Michael: But why is the show going off the air?
   
   Bill: That's a whole different story, but it's not because --
   it's not because --
   
   Tim: Stand up and tell America why.
   
   Michael: We have a right to know.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: You know what?
   
   Michael: Let me --
   I don't think --
   let me tell you.
   I don't think it is the ratings.
   I think --
   
   Bill: I know it's not the ratings.
   
   Michael: Let me tell you right now.
   
   Bill: It's an insult to our audience there who stayed with us when it
   was not easy to stay with us.
   And it insults me on behalf of my audience that that gets out there,
   because the press is too lazy to find out.
   And it's just so easy to go, "dwindling ratings." Our ratings never
   have dwindled.
   
   Michael: That's the truth.
   And the millions who are watching the show right now are actually
   watching it.
   The people who are over there on NBC now watching Jay, I mean, God
   bless him.
   But the people are asleep, all right? I mean, I hate to say it.
   I know he's a friend of yours, but, you know, there's so much crap on
   TV that --
   
   Bill: He's not only a friend of mine.
   He's one of the best friends I've ever had, because this is a guy,
   even though we were competitors --
   and again, you don't hear this story in the press often about how well
   we did.
   But we were competitors with Jay and with Dave.
   And in the top ten cities, we beat some of them often.
   
   Michael: Right.
   
   Bill: Gave them quite a run for their money.
   We were second, not third.
   Okay.
   Jay Leno never stopped being my friend.
   
   Michael: Came on the show.
   
   Bill: He called me with good ideas, good advice.
   He never took --
   the friendship was always above the competition.
   He took it --
   he takes that to a level that is rare to the point of being unique.
   I never knew anybody else in show business who was that way.
   
   Michael: I'm not attacking Jay.
   I'm just saying that people watching this show are watching it.
   They're watching this show and, you know, I want to know.
   I mean, where are the people from ABC right now? This is the last
   night.
   I mean, are they watching us right now in a control room somewhere? I
   mean, where --
   is this set into AB --
   you know, the weird thing about this is --
   I don't know if the public knows this.
   We're at CBS right now.
   [ Light laughter ]
   This is going out on ABC on a show that's currently owned by Time
   Warner.
   You know, where's the diversity of voices here? I don't --
   
   Larry: You're right, by the way.
   And if I weren't pitching a show at ABC next week --
   
   Michael: You'd be right with me on this.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Larry: I'm into this.
   
   Bill: I mean, honestly, you could say what you want about ABC, and I
   might agree.
   I betcha almost every other network would have done pretty much the
   same thing.
   So, you know --
   
   Michael: That's the sad truth.
   That's right.
   Does that make us feel better that essentially they're all the same?
   And that we suffer as citizens of this country because we don't get to
   have a discussion, you know, about the issues, that we have one less
   place now to go to to find out about this? You know, I never thought
   about buying a hybrid car until you started pushing it on the show.
   I'm buying a hybrid car because I watch the show.
   [ Applause ]
   You know, I mean, you made a significant contribution --
   
   Tim: You certainly have.
   
   Michael: --
   To this country.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Whether you agree or agree or disagree, and I want to thank you for
   it.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Well, that was a --
   that was certainly better than the issue I had planned.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Tim: Freedom is a tough thing to really embrace because it really
   involves a more difficult road, because you have to challenge yourself
   constantly.
   And you've done that with this show, and we really appreciate it.
   
   Bill: Well, I appreciate that.
   And, you know, somebody said to me tonight, "What will you cherish
   most about this show?" And I answered that --
   they were laughing.
   I said, "The boos." And I don't mean the booze in here.
   [ Light laughter ]
   I mean that I say things frequently that make people boo.
   Or groaning is good, too.
   I like groaning.
   Um --
   but that means that you're not pandering to their already settled
   prejudices.
   You are trying to --
   I mean, hybrid car.
   People, "Please, Bill."
   
   Michael: But, see, you said it.
   You said, "Oil is the drug.
   It's the drug we can't get off of.
   And it will be our undoing."
   
   Genevieve: And you know what's great about this show?
   
   Michael: And thank you for saying that over and over again.
   
   Genevieve: What's great about this show is, somebody who does a lot of
   other network news-type shows, the reality is people who watch this
   show aren't people who often watch the other stuff.
   I mean, so many people that went to high school, whatever, who don't
   do politics, watch this.
   And they got something out of it because they weren't watching "Meet
   the Press" every morning.
   So it's reached a lot of people.
   
   Larry: I said something to Genevieve during the break, also, that --
   one of the other things that is great about the show.
   That --
   I was kidding around saying, "Boy, you should get an award just for
   walking into these guys with that last topic." But that never occurs
   on any other show, where folks who are not scholarly folks, no one's
   stupid, but we're not necessarily the top rung of people.
   The dry Op-Ed articles of, "Well, the settlements are interesting
   because --
   " it's something that's a free-for-all.
   It's very American in that way.
   It's something about yelling and shouting and saying, "Don't say this
   to me, and I won't say this to you."
   
   Bill: Those pundits who do those news shows, excuse me, are on their
   best day not as smart as all of you people who are sitting right here.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Just because they have professional jobs --
   Anyway, I have to take a commercial.
   We'll be right back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Michael:Imagine if we were doing this over at Black Entertainment
   Television.
   Of course, the budget would be a lot lower, but --
   
   Bill: Oh, I don't know about that.
   [ Applause ]
   You don't look any different.
   [ Applause ]
   Surprised you changed the hat.
   Anyway, I've got a few things I would like to get out of the way.
   
   Michael: We don't make jokes anymore but we still got the hat.
   
   Bill: First of all, I have to plug my Website.
   This is important to me because this is my last issue show so I do
   want to give a shout out to two people.
   You know, I appreciate your remarks, everybody's hearing what we were
   saying in the break and I agree with this wholeheartedly.
   It is the conservatives who stood up for me when I was in trouble more
   than anybody else.
   And you mentioned Dr. Monica Crowley coming to your aid when they
   tried to get rid of your book.
   
   Michael: They tried not to release my book and she called the head of
   Harper and said, "You should release that book.
   I don't agree with him, but he has the right to say this."
   
   Bill: So, you know, it's great to stand up for your convictions, I
   hope I have.
   Some people get convicted for their convictions.
   And there's two people I've become friends with.
   One long distance, which is Dr. Kevorkian.
   As a Libertarian, and people know that is my policy, I have always
   defended Dr. Kevorkian.
   I don't think he's going to see the light of day again.
   I want him to know he's not forgotten, nor is his cause.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Michael: I had him on my show.
   I did a whole segment with him on my show.
   You're right, Bill.
   
   Bill: And my friend Todd McCormack, who people know also.
   In jail for --
   he was, been a cancer patient his whole life and silly of him, he
   trusted that when California passed medical marijuana in 1996 they
   meant it.
   Of course, it became a big pissing match with the feds.
   They came in and he's in jail.
   He will be out soon.
   [ Applause ]
   You know, there's a lot of talk these days about, since 9/11, losing
   our civil liberties, and maybe we are.
   But we should remember that before 9/11, they were pretty good at
   robbing civil liberties.
   Todd's trial, he was not allowed to mention, in the trial, one, that
   California had passed the medical marijuana law, or that he had been a
   cancer sufferer his whole life, or that government studies showed that
   it helped cancer patients.
   Not allowed to mention that in a trial.
   That's what I call a show trial.
   I don't think you could do Joseph Stalin any better than that.
   The government said it was not relevant.
   Apparently, the only things that are relevant are things that help
   their case.
   So vigilance must go on.
   
   Larry: By the way --
   
   Bill: I can't, Larry, I got to take a break.
   But we'll have a few minutes when we get back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Now, Larry, I cut you off, and actually, I should --
   What are we doing? Oh! How subversive.
   
   Michael: We're gonna take a --
   we're taking it with us.
   
   Tim: We're taking it with us.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   I got my eye on the phrenology chart back there.
   
   Bill: I need that for one more show.
   
   Tim: I want the phrenology thing and I want this thing right here.
   Where is it?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Michael: I got the table here.
   
   Bill: What is that? Oh.
   
   Michael: Let's go, Tim.
   Let's go.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: We're on again tomorrow!
   [ Applause ]
   
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Great.  Interestingly, it never came on the market in KC -- Sinclair
preemptively bought it for about a dozen of its stations including KSMO,
which I imagine will double it up with EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND repeats
(which are doing stellar numbers).


> 
> sure, I love it. I'll be sarcastic about it.  It's strange, CBS couldn't sell 
> it for syndication, but htey can't cancel it because it's so popular. A 
> hamock show. 
> 
> Maybe the "IT creator of a show everyone is watching, but don't know why."
> 
> Anyway, the list is to show that anyone can start a list and make great 
> claims. some of the submissions are wacky, one guy wants to be known as "Most 
> Influential Personality of Our Time" so don't worry about being modest. 
> 
> 



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   06/27/02 Transcript for Thursday, June 27, 2002
   Larry Miller
   Tim Robbins
   Michael Moore
   Genevieve Wood
   
   Bill: That's funny.
   Hi, welcome to "Politically Incorrect." Our last real show because
   tomorrow is our finale and that will be a special finale.
   And here to join me tonight, Mr. Tim Robbins came by not because he's
   a big movie star, because he likes this show.
   
   Tim: That's right.
   
   Bill: Because we never pander to movie stars and God knows they never
   pander to us.
   [ Laughter ]
   But, and you're an Oscar-nominated director --
   Actor's Gang Theater is your group out here in L.A. and your play,
   "The Guys," opening July 10th.
   It's about a 9/11 New York Fire Captain challenged with writing
   eulogies for firefighters.
   That sounds interesting.
   Thank you for coming by one more time.
   
   Tim: My pleasure.
   
   Bill: Genevieve Wood, I'm so glad you came back one time.
   I don't know how many times you've been here but it's a lot.
   You're always a great guest.
   You're a political commentator and the spokeswoman for the Family
   Research Council.
   Michael Moore, your book is number one.
   "Stupid White Men." And your new film, "Bowling for Columbine" out in
   November, and you are my good friend.
   And Larry Miller and I go back to the clubs in New York.
   1979 Larry Miller was one of the, I think he was on the very first
   show we ever did of "Politically Incorrect" in 1993.
   He's been on here probably 25 times.
   And I've never liked him.
   Please, give a hand to this panel, if you would.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: I forgot to mention that Larry has "A Guy Thing" with Julia
   Styles, opening this fall and "A Mighty Wind," opening later this
   year.
   And by the way, I've been with you on nights when you produced a
   mighty wind and that's why I don't like you.
   [ Laughter ]
   No, I'm kidding.
   All right, so Michael Moore, you have a big "I told you so" coming to
   the United States of America, don't you? Because who was more on the
   side of corporate America is greedy, evil and arrogant --
   and now a word from our sponsor.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Genevieve: You can say that now, it's great.
   
   Bill: --
   That Michael Moore.
   My God, I was watching "Martha Stewart Living" today and she was
   actually cooking the book.
   [ Laughter ]
   So you have every right, I think, with everything that is going on --
   
   Larry: You know, that's funny.
   [ Laughter ]
   Now why can't we have more of that?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: So, speaking of fuzzy math, George Bush was outraged the other
   day, I heard him say, when he found out about Worldcom, the latest in
   corporate malfeasance going down the books, down the drain.
   So, you think he really has a right to be outraged the way he says he
   is? I mean, isn't his --
   he was always against campaign finance reform.
   It seems like he's against business --
   outraged at business practices that really wouldn't be flourishing if
   he practiced a different form of government.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   Listen.
   Bush is, these people are all thieves, all right? And I don't feel "I
   told you so," in fact I would never want to --
   I feel bad that we're at this point.
   I mean, that these people have gotten away with so much.
   I mean, you think about this.
   Not just Worldcom, not just Enron, Tyco, you go down the whole list.
   This has been going on for a long, long Time.
   Not just during Bush two, it was during Bush one, it was during
   Clinton.
   
   Tim: The deregulation was signed by Clinton.
   
   Michael: Telecommunications Act, '96.
   
   Tim: And backed by a Republican Congress.
   This is where it all started to fall apart.
   
   Bill: Deregulation, what are you talking about?
   
   Michael: The Telecommunications Act that allowed Worldcom, MCI, to get
   away with what they get away with, to expand and merge without
   regulation, which is what these people, which is what the Bush's
   wanted.
   They want it.
   They created this whole system.
   It's not gonna be enough just to send the head of Worldcom to jail.
   I mean, they all belong in jail.
   You've got people in this state, there's a guy up in San Quentin
   because he sold a ball cap from Mervins.
   I mean, you know, we put a lot of people in jail.
   For a lot of things, and we never put these people in jail.
   So they all do belong in jail but there's a much bigger problem with
   the system.
   
   Bill: Yes.
   
   Michael: The system has got to change.
   Not just the accounting system.
   
   Bill: In 1973 the average CEO made 45 times what the worker, average
   worker made.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   
   Bill: In 2000, 450 Times.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   
   Bill: So, in 25 years, yeah, I mean, I agree, a groan.
   It went from 40 times, which is a lot more than the average, to 450
   times.
   That's an earnings raise of 4,300%.
   
   Larry: By the way, forgive me, in the interest of full disclosure, as
   a sweatshop owner --
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Larry: Excuse me, Michael, you find an unhappy worker there.
   [ Laughter ]
   They don't feel pain like us, don't you understand?
   [ Laughter ]
   If you can sew, piecework is the way to go.
   
   Tim: No matter what their age is.
   
   Michael: That's right, that's right.
   
   Larry: You need the tiny hands for the tiny shoes, you know?
   
   Michael: As long as they've got a big picture of you there, Larry, to
   look at, you know, while they're working, you know? It inspires them.
   Larry Miller.
   
   Larry: You know what, by the way? I don't know when this has been
   different.
   I mean, I don't know, I honestly don't know --
   
   Bill: I just told you.
   That 25 years --
   [ Laughter ]
   I just read the statistics.
   45 times --
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Larry: Wait a minute, the whole hands up thing in the middle of a
   sentence, that's what this means.
   [ Laughter ]
   That I don't know --
   
   Tim: Who's gonna suffer the consequences of this? It's gonna be the
   people that work for these corporations that are unemployed now
   because there are going to be cutbacks and rollbacks and what happens
   ultimately when these industries start to fail is --
   the crime has ramifications throughout society through many economic
   levels.
   Eventually, more crime is wreaked because of the economy being more
   and more depressed by these kind of corporate criminals.
   
   Larry: I don't disagree with that, but --
   
   Tim: Nine times out of ten the government's gonna bail them out with
   some kind of corporate welfare and it's all going to be paid for by
   us.
   
   Michael: That's right.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Genevieve: They're always throwing in some culture thing here, though.
   These aren't the only bad guys.
   I mean, you obviously have people at Worldcom but there's all other
   industries all over, whether it's politics and the like, where you got
   people lying and stealing and cheating.
   And what's amazing is I think we're so tuned into it right now because
   it affects our money.
   I mean, I would say --
   look, yeah, we have stock in these companies and we're obviously upset
   about it but I think we have stock in our country, so I was upset when
   Bill Clinton was running around chasing interns --
   Bill, I had to bring it up on the last show, I had to for you.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Genevieve: Let me finish!
   
   Bill: Billions of dollars out the back door because people like this
   are watching about the interest.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Genevieve: God forbid, while he's chasing interns and --
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Bill: Thank you for falling into my trap one more time.
   
   Tim: Look into my eyes, you will now be distracted by an affair.
   
   Bill: Exactly.
   
   Genevieve: No, no, no.
   I'm talking about culture and I would also bring up he was some
   interesting shenanigans with the Chinese Communists he was bringing to
   the White House.
   The point is --
   when you turn your back on the chief executive of the country and act
   like what he's doing behind closed doors is okay, what are you
   signaling to other people in the country?
   
   Michael: Let me tell you what tonight is, Genevieve.
   Tonight is the eve of the day when 17,000 people at Worldcom are gonna
   lose their jobs.
   
   Genevieve: That's right.
   
   Michael: All right? And this is all part and parcel of a system that
   Bush and the people before him helped set up so that few people could
   get rich and everybody else here has to worry about where the
   paycheck's gonna come from next month.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Michael: Listen to the people.
   
   Genevieve: Hey.
   Nobody here was upset when the stock was going up.
   They weren't even paying attention to it.
   The point is, nobody cares until they lose their money.
   How about we should be paying attention to lying, cheating and
   stealing the whole time, not just when we lose our money.
   [ Applause ]
   It matters across the board.
   
   Bill: You're right.
   The people are easily distracted, as Tim was just pointing out.
   
   Genevieve: As long as things are going well, they don't really say --
   
   Michael: When you draw up in the working class, they hold these
   carrots out there and they say, "You know what, if you just do this,
   you'll be like the rich man.
   You'll have the house like him, you'll have the car like him." And so
   in the 80s and 90s it was the 401k.
   "Invest in the stock market.
   Now we're all owners of America." No, the stock market was the rich
   man's game and it's set up and it's rigged so that the top 10% make
   all the money and the people lose the money.
   
   Genevieve: Michael, the point is, who was paying attention in the 80s
   and 90s? Who was paying attention? Lying and cheating and stealing and
   people didn't pay much attention 'cause they were raking the money in.
   
   Tim: Are you saying that if there was no shenanigans in the White
   House that this wouldn't have happened?
   
   Bill: Yeah.
   
   Genevieve: No.
   My point --
   I'm talking about --
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Audience ohs ]
   [ Scattered applause ]
   
   Genevieve: No.
   
   Larry: Let's move on.
   
   Genevieve: I'm just saying, it's always easy to pick on big business
   and make them look like bad guys and that they don't have --
   
   Bill: It's easy because they're crooks.
   
   Michael: You know, I don't have to make them look like anything
   anymore.
   It's a daily "Roger and Me," now, right? I don't have to toot us
   anymore.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Michael: The point is, I would say that some of the business leaders
   might be falling --
   
   Michael: It's a family show.
   
   Genevieve: I think it's a cultural indicator, as you might say and
   that it's not just businesses, as I mentioned earlier, kids are
   cheating at higher levels on tests than they ever have.
   I mean, you think we ought to think about this culturally, why that
   people think they can just get away with --
   and they have no problem with.
   
   Tim: Because maybe they see the richest people in this country got
   there by cheating.
   
   Genevieve: Or the president, for instance, lying and getting away with
   it.
   
   Bill: It's because of his penis.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Tim: Also, by the way, when these guys get caught, all of our children
   see --
   
   Genevieve: These guys are going to prison.
   
   Tim: Oh, for how long, and what kind of prison?
   
   Genevieve: Bill Clinton never went anywhere.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   
   Tim: When they come out they still got plenty of K.
   So don't talk to me about --
   
   Genevieve: Bill Clinton's got plenty of k, and extra on the side too.
   
   Tim: These little kids, they're seeing this and they're going, "Wow,
   you can do that, billions of dollars and get two years in jail."
   
   Genevieve: Or you can lie to the country and still be President.
   Isn't that a great signal that we send our children?
   
   Bill: I have to take a break.
   Blow my head off.
   
   Genevieve: You think you can ignore it.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Larry: You know, oddly enough in this case, I agree with Bill.
   Bill, right?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: Oh.
   [ Applause ]
   Okay.
   
   Larry: By the way, you know what? You know what's really sad? That's
   next week.
   
   Michael: Bill, tell me just before you go onto the next topic, though.
   Talk about corporate crime.
   There's something that just --
   I mean, it's just really been bothering me.
   And it's about this show.
   It's the fact that Disney, which owns ABC, has canceled this thing.
   Now, let me tell you something.
   I just think at a time when we have so many problems facing this
   country, this has not been a very good year for America.
   I mean, we're faced with a lot of crap right now.
   This is not the time to be reducing the number of voices that we have
   on television where there's discussion about the issues.
   We need more discussion of the issues.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   I have --
   let me just say this.
   I want to just say this.
   It --
   it lessens the democracy when you have less discussion.
   You need more discussion.
   You need more people informed.
   You need more people thinking about this.
   I don't care about the ratings.
   Listen --
   
   Bill: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
   That bothers me.
   Wait a second.
   This show is not going away because of the ratings.
   The audience --
   
   Michael: That's what I read.
   What is that all about?
   
   Bill: That --
   See, Mike, that's why I am not mad at the network.
   I am mad at the press because they got the story wrong.
   We didn't go away because the audience went away.
   
   Michael: But why is the show going off the air?
   
   Bill: That's a whole different story, but it's not because --
   it's not because --
   
   Tim: Stand up and tell America why.
   
   Michael: We have a right to know.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: You know what?
   
   Michael: Let me --
   I don't think --
   let me tell you.
   I don't think it is the ratings.
   I think --
   
   Bill: I know it's not the ratings.
   
   Michael: Let me tell you right now.
   
   Bill: It's an insult to our audience there who stayed with us when it
   was not easy to stay with us.
   And it insults me on behalf of my audience that that gets out there,
   because the press is too lazy to find out.
   And it's just so easy to go, "dwindling ratings." Our ratings never
   have dwindled.
   
   Michael: That's the truth.
   And the millions who are watching the show right now are actually
   watching it.
   The people who are over there on NBC now watching Jay, I mean, God
   bless him.
   But the people are asleep, all right? I mean, I hate to say it.
   I know he's a friend of yours, but, you know, there's so much crap on
   TV that --
   
   Bill: He's not only a friend of mine.
   He's one of the best friends I've ever had, because this is a guy,
   even though we were competitors --
   and again, you don't hear this story in the press often about how well
   we did.
   But we were competitors with Jay and with Dave.
   And in the top ten cities, we beat some of them often.
   
   Michael: Right.
   
   Bill: Gave them quite a run for their money.
   We were second, not third.
   Okay.
   Jay Leno never stopped being my friend.
   
   Michael: Came on the show.
   
   Bill: He called me with good ideas, good advice.
   He never took --
   the friendship was always above the competition.
   He took it --
   he takes that to a level that is rare to the point of being unique.
   I never knew anybody else in show business who was that way.
   
   Michael: I'm not attacking Jay.
   I'm just saying that people watching this show are watching it.
   They're watching this show and, you know, I want to know.
   I mean, where are the people from ABC right now? This is the last
   night.
   I mean, are they watching us right now in a control room somewhere? I
   mean, where --
   is this set into AB --
   you know, the weird thing about this is --
   I don't know if the public knows this.
   We're at CBS right now.
   [ Light laughter ]
   This is going out on ABC on a show that's currently owned by Time
   Warner.
   You know, where's the diversity of voices here? I don't --
   
   Larry: You're right, by the way.
   And if I weren't pitching a show at ABC next week --
   
   Michael: You'd be right with me on this.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Larry: I'm into this.
   
   Bill: I mean, honestly, you could say what you want about ABC, and I
   might agree.
   I betcha almost every other network would have done pretty much the
   same thing.
   So, you know --
   
   Michael: That's the sad truth.
   That's right.
   Does that make us feel better that essentially they're all the same?
   And that we suffer as citizens of this country because we don't get to
   have a discussion, you know, about the issues, that we have one less
   place now to go to to find out about this? You know, I never thought
   about buying a hybrid car until you started pushing it on the show.
   I'm buying a hybrid car because I watch the show.
   [ Applause ]
   You know, I mean, you made a significant contribution --
   
   Tim: You certainly have.
   
   Michael: --
   To this country.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Whether you agree or agree or disagree, and I want to thank you for
   it.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Well, that was a --
   that was certainly better than the issue I had planned.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Tim: Freedom is a tough thing to really embrace because it really
   involves a more difficult road, because you have to challenge yourself
   constantly.
   And you've done that with this show, and we really appreciate it.
   
   Bill: Well, I appreciate that.
   And, you know, somebody said to me tonight, "What will you cherish
   most about this show?" And I answered that --
   they were laughing.
   I said, "The boos." And I don't mean the booze in here.
   [ Light laughter ]
   I mean that I say things frequently that make people boo.
   Or groaning is good, too.
   I like groaning.
   Um --
   but that means that you're not pandering to their already settled
   prejudices.
   You are trying to --
   I mean, hybrid car.
   People, "Please, Bill."
   
   Michael: But, see, you said it.
   You said, "Oil is the drug.
   It's the drug we can't get off of.
   And it will be our undoing."
   
   Genevieve: And you know what's great about this show?
   
   Michael: And thank you for saying that over and over again.
   
   Genevieve: What's great about this show is, somebody who does a lot of
   other network news-type shows, the reality is people who watch this
   show aren't people who often watch the other stuff.
   I mean, so many people that went to high school, whatever, who don't
   do politics, watch this.
   And they got something out of it because they weren't watching "Meet
   the Press" every morning.
   So it's reached a lot of people.
   
   Larry: I said something to Genevieve during the break, also, that --
   one of the other things that is great about the show.
   That --
   I was kidding around saying, "Boy, you should get an award just for
   walking into these guys with that last topic." But that never occurs
   on any other show, where folks who are not scholarly folks, no one's
   stupid, but we're not necessarily the top rung of people.
   The dry Op-Ed articles of, "Well, the settlements are interesting
   because --
   " it's something that's a free-for-all.
   It's very American in that way.
   It's something about yelling and shouting and saying, "Don't say this
   to me, and I won't say this to you."
   
   Bill: Those pundits who do those news shows, excuse me, are on their
   best day not as smart as all of you people who are sitting right here.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Just because they have professional jobs --
   Anyway, I have to take a commercial.
   We'll be right back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Michael:Imagine if we were doing this over at Black Entertainment
   Television.
   Of course, the budget would be a lot lower, but --
   
   Bill: Oh, I don't know about that.
   [ Applause ]
   You don't look any different.
   [ Applause ]
   Surprised you changed the hat.
   Anyway, I've got a few things I would like to get out of the way.
   
   Michael: We don't make jokes anymore but we still got the hat.
   
   Bill: First of all, I have to plug my Website.
   This is important to me because this is my last issue show so I do
   want to give a shout out to two people.
   You know, I appreciate your remarks, everybody's hearing what we were
   saying in the break and I agree with this wholeheartedly.
   It is the conservatives who stood up for me when I was in trouble more
   than anybody else.
   And you mentioned Dr. Monica Crowley coming to your aid when they
   tried to get rid of your book.
   
   Michael: They tried not to release my book and she called the head of
   Harper and said, "You should release that book.
   I don't agree with him, but he has the right to say this."
   
   Bill: So, you know, it's great to stand up for your convictions, I
   hope I have.
   Some people get convicted for their convictions.
   And there's two people I've become friends with.
   One long distance, which is Dr. Kevorkian.
   As a Libertarian, and people know that is my policy, I have always
   defended Dr. Kevorkian.
   I don't think he's going to see the light of day again.
   I want him to know he's not forgotten, nor is his cause.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Michael: I had him on my show.
   I did a whole segment with him on my show.
   You're right, Bill.
   
   Bill: And my friend Todd McCormack, who people know also.
   In jail for --
   he was, been a cancer patient his whole life and silly of him, he
   trusted that when California passed medical marijuana in 1996 they
   meant it.
   Of course, it became a big pissing match with the feds.
   They came in and he's in jail.
   He will be out soon.
   [ Applause ]
   You know, there's a lot of talk these days about, since 9/11, losing
   our civil liberties, and maybe we are.
   But we should remember that before 9/11, they were pretty good at
   robbing civil liberties.
   Todd's trial, he was not allowed to mention, in the trial, one, that
   California had passed the medical marijuana law, or that he had been a
   cancer sufferer his whole life, or that government studies showed that
   it helped cancer patients.
   Not allowed to mention that in a trial.
   That's what I call a show trial.
   I don't think you could do Joseph Stalin any better than that.
   The government said it was not relevant.
   Apparently, the only things that are relevant are things that help
   their case.
   So vigilance must go on.
   
   Larry: By the way --
   
   Bill: I can't, Larry, I got to take a break.
   But we'll have a few minutes when we get back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Now, Larry, I cut you off, and actually, I should --
   What are we doing? Oh! How subversive.
   
   Michael: We're gonna take a --
   we're taking it with us.
   
   Tim: We're taking it with us.
   [ Talking over each other ]
   I got my eye on the phrenology chart back there.
   
   Bill: I need that for one more show.
   
   Tim: I want the phrenology thing and I want this thing right here.
   Where is it?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Michael: I got the table here.
   
   Bill: What is that? Oh.
   
   Michael: Let's go, Tim.
   Let's go.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: We're on again tomorrow!
   [ Applause ]
   
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   Arianna Huffington
   Christopher Tim Reid
   Ann Coulter
   Michelle Phillips
   
   Arianna: I'm Arianna Huffington, and this is Ann Coulter, Christopher
   Reid and Michelle Phillips.
   
   Ann: And we're here to bid farewell to one of the most provocative and
   innovative late-night shows in television history.
   
   Christopher: And to celebrate the man in the big chair for nine years
   and over 1,600 episodes.
   
   Michelle: And I'm just here for the wrap party.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Arianna: I've met funny guys, but none are smart.
   I've met smart guys, but none are funny.
   He single-handedly raised the quality of political debate in America,
   and after midnight, no less.
   He's the ultimate cantankerous romantic.
   Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Maher.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you all very, very much.
   Thank you all.
   Thank you.
   Aw, please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you.
   Thank you.
   Please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you, folks.
   Please.
   Please, folks, we got --
   still a half hour show.
   Sorry, but that's --
   [ Laughter ]
   I really appreciate it.
   That's wonderful.
   You're making it very difficult for me to do the show the way I've
   always done it --
   hung over.
   But --
   [ Laughter ]
   I do appreciate that more than I could tell you.
   It has been a very, very sentimental day here.
   I was packing up, as we do.
   I was in my office, and boy, at the bottom of a drawer, I found the
   very first note of no confidence from the network.
   It was --
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, but it's all good, as the kids say.
   Nine years, I will take it.
   I tell ya, that is not nothin', nine years.
   When you think of the show as --
   [ Applause ]
   When you think that this show is old enough to get hit on by a priest,
   that is old.
   That --
   [ Laughter ]
   I was hoping it would get old enough to get peed on by R. Kelly, but
   you know --
   [ Audience ohs ]
   [ Laughter ]
   Even on my finale, I get boos.
   No, nine years --
   to put that in perspective, Newt Gingrich was still cheating on his
   first wife.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, we have had a nice, long run here.
   Please, come on.
   We have gone through two Presidents.
   And that's just this month at ABC.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   Oh, I kid ABC.
   Poor people, I gave them headaches the whole time.
   We had a sponsor, as a matter of fact, pull out as recently as today.
   [ Laughter ]
   Although they swore it was just for old time's sake.
   [ Laughter ]
   And most of the old times we've had were good.
   I'm tellin' ya, we've had good days here.
   We took the show on the road a lot.
   We loved that.
   I remember the time in Aspen that I talked the conservative virgin and
   the ultra-liberal feminist into the hot tub by describing it as a
   "think tank."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   We have had the bitter and the sweet.
   I have taken the good with the bad.
   I have had death threats and marriage proposals.
   And I've even had guests who swore there was a difference.
   [ Laughter ]
   And in the end, I have just one question --
   How come I'm canceled, and Bin Laden is still on Al Jazeera?
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   We will be right back.
   Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
   Thank you.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Arianna: In the last election, if I can remember --
   my husband is a Republican Congressman --
   I nearly voted for Ross Perot, not because I really believed in him
   but because he was the only Presidential candidate who did not jog,
   you know?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: When I was a kid --
   
   Uh-huh.
   
   Christopher: --
   Looked in the medicine cabinet --
   I must have been about 6 or 7 --
   and I saw Bengay.
   And I thought, "This looks like something that I want to rub on my
   butt."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I don't remember you saying that, either.
   
   Christopher: Not only do I remember saying it, I remember it in its
   original form.
   That was a --
   that was an "oochy-ouch."
   
   Bill: All right, well, listen, I don't want to get behind.
   And what do I mean "behind"? There's no issues today.
   "Behind"? This show is about my behind, you're sitting here, but --
   I just want people to know the original idea of this show was me
   sitting around with my friends.
   That's why I got the idea for the show, was 'cause that's what I did
   at home.
   So I thought, "Why don't we do that on television? Just sitting around
   with interesting people, talking about whatever's going on, without
   the bong."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   So for my last show, I wanted to have --
   I mean, all week --
   really all month, but especially this last week --
   we've had people who have become my friends from this show.
   And that has so much meaning to me.
   That these people, you people here, became such good friends because
   of this show.
   I didn't know any of you, really, before this show.
   And now we have become good friends.
   I have one rule for tonight, which is for nine years on this show, I
   have been able to finish a sentence six times.
   [ Laughter ]
   Once in '93, twice in '95.
   So tonight --
   because as the host, you always have to defer to the guests and let
   them speak.
   Tonight, shut up.
   [ Laughter ]
   When I'm talking --
   one night, the last night, if I speak, shut up! Okay? Because I have a
   few tributes I wanna give to people and thank people.
   And there's a --
   first, the guests, like you.
   I wanna --
   yes, please.
   [ Applause ]
   Every single guest who came on this show was brave.
   You know? This was a show you had to be brave to do.
   There was no nets, no planned bits, no pre-interviews.
   It wasn't like, "Oh, Bill's gonna say, then you're gonna say." And if
   you were stupid, you know, over the years --
   I don't watch this show.
   [ Light laughter ]
   'Cause I'm here, you know.
   But people over the years have told me that the funniest thing on this
   show was the look on my face when someone is saying something stupid.
   [ Light laughter ]
   So I can understand why people were reluctant to do this show.
   So my hat is truly off.
   People should know how grateful I am for all the people who did it.
   'Cause they did it out of love.
   It wasn't that we were plugging a lot of their stuff here.
   This wasn't that kind of a show.
   And whenever I read in the press --
   sometimes they would write something very sneering about, "Oh, you
   know, they don't get the 'A'-list guests." No, we got the "A"-list
   people.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Okay? Yeah, you're right.
   You're right, we didn't get a lot of "A"-list movie stars.
   You know, you're not Julia Roberts, and you're not Will Smith, who are
   both wonderful performers, but I'd rather talk to you.
   And if you didn't get that about the show, you just didn't get the
   show.
   It was about talking to people.
   Now you can talk.
   
   Arianna: But why are you saying --
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Bill: That's my tribute to the guests.
   
   Arianna: Why do you think you became a whipping boy for the media? I
   mean, let me tell you why I think you became a whipping boy for the
   media.
   Because in many ways, you did their job for them.
   Because they were too lazy to do their own job.
   Because they are too much of a little fraternity protecting each
   other.
   Because they didn't want to challenge the viewers, and you did that,
   night in, night out.
   Not just being funny, but also being knowledgeable.
   Don't you agree with me?
   
   Michelle: Of course he does.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would be flattered to think that's true.
   And I appreciate you saying it.
   I also think --
   whenever I read a bad article about me --
   and I just read one the other day.
   It's not hard to find 'em.
   And it's like, "Yadda, yadda, he did this --
   "
   [ Speaking Gibberish ]
   I didn't know if this was a review or --
   it was just like a --
   a cat fight.
   It was just like --
   bitchy, kind of.
   
   Michelle: They called you in one of the articles, "A man of icy
   reserve and considerable ego."
   
   Bill: All right, we don't have to quote them.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: I heard "pit bull with a perm." I've heard a lot of --
   
   Bill: But then --
   after --
   it always gets down to, "Blah, blah --
   'Playboy' mansion." You know? Somehow, that always gets into it.
   Whatever --
   It's like --
   
   Michelle: Well, you do have kind of a reputation about the chicks, the
   women.
   
   Christopher: She's trying to tell you, women like Imelda Marcos with
   shoes.
   You know, that's not --
   but I don't --
   
   Bill: I don't see you that often, that's why.
   
   Michelle: You mean I'm not your friend anymore?
   
   Bill: You are my friend, but --
   
   Arianna: No, but the point is that you made the show be about a lot of
   firsts for many of your guests.
   For me, for example.
   This is the first national show in which I was bleeped --
   just for saying [ bleep ].
   Was that bleeped again now? I don't know.
   [ Laughter ]
   This is also the first show, thanks to you, that I got into bed with
   Al Franken to do political commentary, and I'm probably the only woman
   you know, maybe, who gets a tax deduction for lingerie.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would have --
   I did help your career and your career.
   I mean, as pundits.
   And I mean, I am so much prouder that you two are on the American
   scene with your voices than for having discovered a boy band or
   something.
   [ Laughter ]
   You know? This was a difference.
   [ Applause ]
   Anyway, let me take a break because we don't want to get too far
   behind.
   And you --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: I was not at Woodstock, but I always wanted to know, what was
   wrong with the brown acid?
   
   Michelle: I was at Monterrey Pop, and there we had sunshine --
   sunshine, and there was nothing wrong with it at all.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: How do you know Bob Dole's wife shouldn't walk out on him?
   
   Bill: Well, we do know.
   
   Ann: How close did you get?
   
   Bill: Because the fact that Bob Dole has admitted.
   He said --
   Bob Dole said, "Bob Dole wants out."
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Why does everybody look the same except me in those clips?
   
   Ann: That was the very first show I ever did.
   
   Bill: Oh, yeah?
   
   Ann: Yeah, first time I met you, and I would like to say that in
   addition to being a womanizer and beating the press to their job --
   I'm joking --
   I think this is a very important show, and there's nothing like it on
   TV, and I'm going to be very sorry to see it go because it allows
   people to argue about things that you can't argue about sometimes on
   other shows, not feel inhibited all the time, and moreover, shows that
   you can be friends after having an argument.
   
   Bill: That's great.
   
   Ann: I mean, how much do you and I actually agree on --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Exactly.
   I mean, that is one thing this show has taught me --
   that yes, you can be totally wonderful friends.
   Whenever I come here, we go out with my friends.
   It's always fantastic.
   You can be absolutely wonderful friends with a fascist.
   Anyway --
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: Yes, and in fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to read a letter
   from someone who is evidently constantly shocked that you and I are
   friends.
   Your friend, Barbara Streisand.
   
   Bill: Oh, my God.
   
   Ann: "Dear Bill, keep annoying people.
   Keep making them think.
   Your wonderful gift of challenging the public has empowered our
   country.
   Have a great next chapter.
   Love, Barbara."
   
   Bill: That's sweet.
   She's a great friend.
   [ Applause ]
   She is a great friend of this show.
   Thank you, Barbara.
   Now, listen, before we get behind, I do want us --
   more tributes.
   I never thanked my staff as much as I should.
   I'm somehow in that strange world where I do it easier on camera than
   off.
   But they work so hard, and they are so dedicated, and they take so
   much crap on behalf of this little enterprise that we've done.
   So, you know, for Nancy Geller, who has the passion and never lost it,
   for Scott Carter, my founding brother, and Sheila and Marilyn Wilson,
   who was a network bitch when I met her, and I brought her over to the
   dark side, and I own her soul now, too, and I'm glad I do.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And for Billy Martin and the writers.
   You know, Paul McCartney once said, "I'd rather have a band than a
   Rolls-Royce." And I say the same about a writing team.
   I'd rather have a writing team than a Rolls-Royce or any car.
   And the writers' assistants.
   You know, we never could really hire writers from outside 'cause this
   show was so different.
   I had to grow them here in the lab.
   [ Laughter ]
   And they're all fantastic, and everyone and my fabulous Jew agents and
   managers.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: You know, I'd just like to say that with the cancellation of
   this show, I think the networks can now continue to homogenize the
   news from one network to the next.
   It's the same thing.
   
   Christopher: Homogeny.
   
   Michelle: Homogenized, yes.
   
   Christopher: Homogenized.
   
   Arianna: This could be an opportunity, also, for Bill's next stage.
   And I have a kind of dark dream prophecy that he will replace Martha
   Stewart as the icon of domesticity.
   [ Laughter ]
   We are actually going to see him making this pineapple upside-down
   cake for three screaming kids, hanging up his apron.
   You know, I dare to dream.
   
   Ann: Are you true to the bone? You're sitting here tonight.
   
   Bill: Speaking of dreams, I have to tell you, we were out the other
   night.
   And you know, this whole thing has been --
   the last many months have been a time of reflection in my life because
   whenever change is forced upon you --
   it's good, by the way, but it does make you think.
   And you know, it's been an interesting, trying time, and it made me
   reflect and think.
   And we were out the other night, and I was getting a first amendment
   award, which is sort of my hobby now.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And, you know, as we often go out to these events together, and
   everyone said, "You were so beautiful," and I always agree, and you
   are.
   And I got to thinking, "God, you know, my life is changing now, and
   the show is ending.
   And I'm different.
   And, you know, who do I love to go out with? You.
   Who's my best friend when I need to call somebody? You.
   Who do I call? Who has my back always?" So I know this is hokey to do
   on national television.
   [ Laughter ]
   But --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Arianna --
   would you be the first guest on my new show?
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Here and here and --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Initial it there.
   All right, we gotta take a break.
   We'll be right back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: All right, what do you want to say?
   
   Michelle: Here is a letter from Aaron Sorkin.
   
   Bill: Oh, good.
   Not more about me as a womanizer.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: "Here it lies, victims of the dumbest brand of domestic
   terrorism.
   God bless Bill Maher and his staff and crew of 'Politically
   Incorrect.' God is not done with any of you yet.
   Aaron Sorkin."
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: He knows what a fan I am of his.
   All right.
   My last tribute, the most important, is the audience.
   I was saying on last night's show, they never went away.
   They didn't, and it was not easy to follow us all the time.
   This is an audience that appreciates thinking outside the box, as they
   say these days in television.
   Really thinking outside the box, not just talking about it.
   They don't subscribe to group think.
   They don't care what crosses the line, what's not appropriate.
   They're adults, and I happen to love adults.
   [ Applause ]
   And, you know --
   [ Applause ]
   Every time I do "Larry King" --
   and I love Larry King.
   We go to commercial, he says, "He makes us think differently." And I'm
   as proud as a boy at his bar mitzvah to --
   [ Laughter ]
   But you know, for our core audience, I don't think I make them think
   differently.
   I think they already think differently.
   And on any given night, I say something, and they're like, "Oh, good,
   somebody else thinks that way.
   I'm not crazy, unless Bill's crazy." That's possible.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, really, the rest of the world is crazy.
   And there's a couple of great columnists in this country.
   You are definitely one of them.
   Maureen Dowd is another one, and she wrote this the other day.
   I have to close from this.
   I think it was so telling.
   She talks about a friend of mine who was recalling her days in the
   idealistic child of the '60s.
   And they were talking about America, they were afraid, was gonna get
   run by corporations.
   White male power structure.
   There was a right-wing conspiracy, civil liberties and free speech
   perils.
   And now we wake up, and she says, "It's all come true, and we were the
   empowerers because we've turned into the same selfish people we
   thought we were against.
   We forgot to be suspicious." You have to stay suspicious.
   When this show moved from --
   [ Applause ]
   --
   Comedy Central to ABC, the big thing was, "Are you gonna ruin this
   show, Bill? Are you --
   " and I'm proud to say, I don't think I did because I don't think I
   mellowed, and I will not mellow.
   And I'm not --
   [ Applause ]
   And I'm not going away, I'm just setting up shop in the Bahamas for
   tax purposes for awhile.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, I will not mellow because that's not really what we do here,
   and that's not what I will do.
   We will keep fighting.
   This staff fought tooth and nail, and they always will, and I am
   always appreciative of that.
   And it's like --
   [ Audience member shouts ]
   Thank you! It's like Mr. Exhibit said.
   "It's like ashes to ashes and dust to dust.
   I might leave in a body bag but never in cuffs."
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Christopher: May I? May I?
   
   Bill: And now you --
   
   Christopher: May I? Please.
   A special tribute --
   I'd like to do this.
   A special tribute about my friend, all right? Just a few words about
   how I feel about a man we call Mr. Bill, most chill.
   One of the most outspoken men you'd ever want to see, boy.
   Loves the sisters so much, we nicknamed him Leroy.
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Didn't think there'd be a bond between me and him.
   One minute, he'd be listening to Neil Diamond.
   The next minute, Eminem.
   But over the years, a friendship took shape.
   We shared drinks, some weed and the R. Kelly tape.
   [ Laughter ]
   Something else we shared that I was impressed about was a common mind
   set --
   no B.S. allowed.
   That means keeping it real.
   Real like jail.
   Real like not being afraid to fail and not afraid to say what's
   necessary and not afraid of a bald press secretary.
   Some say your stances have cost you a show, cost you some friends and
   lost you some dough.
   But for the millions of fans that don't want you to go, you just keep
   being Bill.
   That's all we want you to know.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you.
   Thank you, everybody.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
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   06/28/02 Transcript for Friday, June 28, 2002
   Arianna Huffington
   Christopher Tim Reid
   Ann Coulter
   Michelle Phillips
   
   Arianna: I'm Arianna Huffington, and this is Ann Coulter, Christopher
   Reid and Michelle Phillips.
   
   Ann: And we're here to bid farewell to one of the most provocative and
   innovative late-night shows in television history.
   
   Christopher: And to celebrate the man in the big chair for nine years
   and over 1,600 episodes.
   
   Michelle: And I'm just here for the wrap party.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Arianna: I've met funny guys, but none are smart.
   I've met smart guys, but none are funny.
   He single-handedly raised the quality of political debate in America,
   and after midnight, no less.
   He's the ultimate cantankerous romantic.
   Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Maher.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you all very, very much.
   Thank you all.
   Thank you.
   Aw, please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you.
   Thank you.
   Please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you, folks.
   Please.
   Please, folks, we got --
   still a half hour show.
   Sorry, but that's --
   [ Laughter ]
   I really appreciate it.
   That's wonderful.
   You're making it very difficult for me to do the show the way I've
   always done it --
   hung over.
   But --
   [ Laughter ]
   I do appreciate that more than I could tell you.
   It has been a very, very sentimental day here.
   I was packing up, as we do.
   I was in my office, and boy, at the bottom of a drawer, I found the
   very first note of no confidence from the network.
   It was --
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, but it's all good, as the kids say.
   Nine years, I will take it.
   I tell ya, that is not nothin', nine years.
   When you think of the show as --
   [ Applause ]
   When you think that this show is old enough to get hit on by a priest,
   that is old.
   That --
   [ Laughter ]
   I was hoping it would get old enough to get peed on by R. Kelly, but
   you know --
   [ Audience ohs ]
   [ Laughter ]
   Even on my finale, I get boos.
   No, nine years --
   to put that in perspective, Newt Gingrich was still cheating on his
   first wife.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, we have had a nice, long run here.
   Please, come on.
   We have gone through two Presidents.
   And that's just this month at ABC.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   Oh, I kid ABC.
   Poor people, I gave them headaches the whole time.
   We had a sponsor, as a matter of fact, pull out as recently as today.
   [ Laughter ]
   Although they swore it was just for old time's sake.
   [ Laughter ]
   And most of the old times we've had were good.
   I'm tellin' ya, we've had good days here.
   We took the show on the road a lot.
   We loved that.
   I remember the time in Aspen that I talked the conservative virgin and
   the ultra-liberal feminist into the hot tub by describing it as a
   "think tank."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   We have had the bitter and the sweet.
   I have taken the good with the bad.
   I have had death threats and marriage proposals.
   And I've even had guests who swore there was a difference.
   [ Laughter ]
   And in the end, I have just one question --
   How come I'm canceled, and Bin Laden is still on Al Jazeera?
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   We will be right back.
   Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
   Thank you.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Arianna: In the last election, if I can remember --
   my husband is a Republican Congressman --
   I nearly voted for Ross Perot, not because I really believed in him
   but because he was the only Presidential candidate who did not jog,
   you know?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: When I was a kid --
   
   Uh-huh.
   
   Christopher: --
   Looked in the medicine cabinet --
   I must have been about 6 or 7 --
   and I saw Bengay.
   And I thought, "This looks like something that I want to rub on my
   butt."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I don't remember you saying that, either.
   
   Christopher: Not only do I remember saying it, I remember it in its
   original form.
   That was a --
   that was an "oochy-ouch."
   
   Bill: All right, well, listen, I don't want to get behind.
   And what do I mean "behind"? There's no issues today.
   "Behind"? This show is about my behind, you're sitting here, but --
   I just want people to know the original idea of this show was me
   sitting around with my friends.
   That's why I got the idea for the show, was 'cause that's what I did
   at home.
   So I thought, "Why don't we do that on television? Just sitting around
   with interesting people, talking about whatever's going on, without
   the bong."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   So for my last show, I wanted to have --
   I mean, all week --
   really all month, but especially this last week --
   we've had people who have become my friends from this show.
   And that has so much meaning to me.
   That these people, you people here, became such good friends because
   of this show.
   I didn't know any of you, really, before this show.
   And now we have become good friends.
   I have one rule for tonight, which is for nine years on this show, I
   have been able to finish a sentence six times.
   [ Laughter ]
   Once in '93, twice in '95.
   So tonight --
   because as the host, you always have to defer to the guests and let
   them speak.
   Tonight, shut up.
   [ Laughter ]
   When I'm talking --
   one night, the last night, if I speak, shut up! Okay? Because I have a
   few tributes I wanna give to people and thank people.
   And there's a --
   first, the guests, like you.
   I wanna --
   yes, please.
   [ Applause ]
   Every single guest who came on this show was brave.
   You know? This was a show you had to be brave to do.
   There was no nets, no planned bits, no pre-interviews.
   It wasn't like, "Oh, Bill's gonna say, then you're gonna say." And if
   you were stupid, you know, over the years --
   I don't watch this show.
   [ Light laughter ]
   'Cause I'm here, you know.
   But people over the years have told me that the funniest thing on this
   show was the look on my face when someone is saying something stupid.
   [ Light laughter ]
   So I can understand why people were reluctant to do this show.
   So my hat is truly off.
   People should know how grateful I am for all the people who did it.
   'Cause they did it out of love.
   It wasn't that we were plugging a lot of their stuff here.
   This wasn't that kind of a show.
   And whenever I read in the press --
   sometimes they would write something very sneering about, "Oh, you
   know, they don't get the 'A'-list guests." No, we got the "A"-list
   people.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Okay? Yeah, you're right.
   You're right, we didn't get a lot of "A"-list movie stars.
   You know, you're not Julia Roberts, and you're not Will Smith, who are
   both wonderful performers, but I'd rather talk to you.
   And if you didn't get that about the show, you just didn't get the
   show.
   It was about talking to people.
   Now you can talk.
   
   Arianna: But why are you saying --
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Bill: That's my tribute to the guests.
   
   Arianna: Why do you think you became a whipping boy for the media? I
   mean, let me tell you why I think you became a whipping boy for the
   media.
   Because in many ways, you did their job for them.
   Because they were too lazy to do their own job.
   Because they are too much of a little fraternity protecting each
   other.
   Because they didn't want to challenge the viewers, and you did that,
   night in, night out.
   Not just being funny, but also being knowledgeable.
   Don't you agree with me?
   
   Michelle: Of course he does.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would be flattered to think that's true.
   And I appreciate you saying it.
   I also think --
   whenever I read a bad article about me --
   and I just read one the other day.
   It's not hard to find 'em.
   And it's like, "Yadda, yadda, he did this --
   "
   [ Speaking Gibberish ]
   I didn't know if this was a review or --
   it was just like a --
   a cat fight.
   It was just like --
   bitchy, kind of.
   
   Michelle: They called you in one of the articles, "A man of icy
   reserve and considerable ego."
   
   Bill: All right, we don't have to quote them.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: I heard "pit bull with a perm." I've heard a lot of --
   
   Bill: But then --
   after --
   it always gets down to, "Blah, blah --
   'Playboy' mansion." You know? Somehow, that always gets into it.
   Whatever --
   It's like --
   
   Michelle: Well, you do have kind of a reputation about the chicks, the
   women.
   
   Christopher: She's trying to tell you, women like Imelda Marcos with
   shoes.
   You know, that's not --
   but I don't --
   
   Bill: I don't see you that often, that's why.
   
   Michelle: You mean I'm not your friend anymore?
   
   Bill: You are my friend, but --
   
   Arianna: No, but the point is that you made the show be about a lot of
   firsts for many of your guests.
   For me, for example.
   This is the first national show in which I was bleeped --
   just for saying [ bleep ].
   Was that bleeped again now? I don't know.
   [ Laughter ]
   This is also the first show, thanks to you, that I got into bed with
   Al Franken to do political commentary, and I'm probably the only woman
   you know, maybe, who gets a tax deduction for lingerie.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would have --
   I did help your career and your career.
   I mean, as pundits.
   And I mean, I am so much prouder that you two are on the American
   scene with your voices than for having discovered a boy band or
   something.
   [ Laughter ]
   You know? This was a difference.
   [ Applause ]
   Anyway, let me take a break because we don't want to get too far
   behind.
   And you --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: I was not at Woodstock, but I always wanted to know, what was
   wrong with the brown acid?
   
   Michelle: I was at Monterrey Pop, and there we had sunshine --
   sunshine, and there was nothing wrong with it at all.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: How do you know Bob Dole's wife shouldn't walk out on him?
   
   Bill: Well, we do know.
   
   Ann: How close did you get?
   
   Bill: Because the fact that Bob Dole has admitted.
   He said --
   Bob Dole said, "Bob Dole wants out."
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Why does everybody look the same except me in those clips?
   
   Ann: That was the very first show I ever did.
   
   Bill: Oh, yeah?
   
   Ann: Yeah, first time I met you, and I would like to say that in
   addition to being a womanizer and beating the press to their job --
   I'm joking --
   I think this is a very important show, and there's nothing like it on
   TV, and I'm going to be very sorry to see it go because it allows
   people to argue about things that you can't argue about sometimes on
   other shows, not feel inhibited all the time, and moreover, shows that
   you can be friends after having an argument.
   
   Bill: That's great.
   
   Ann: I mean, how much do you and I actually agree on --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Exactly.
   I mean, that is one thing this show has taught me --
   that yes, you can be totally wonderful friends.
   Whenever I come here, we go out with my friends.
   It's always fantastic.
   You can be absolutely wonderful friends with a fascist.
   Anyway --
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: Yes, and in fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to read a letter
   from someone who is evidently constantly shocked that you and I are
   friends.
   Your friend, Barbara Streisand.
   
   Bill: Oh, my God.
   
   Ann: "Dear Bill, keep annoying people.
   Keep making them think.
   Your wonderful gift of challenging the public has empowered our
   country.
   Have a great next chapter.
   Love, Barbara."
   
   Bill: That's sweet.
   She's a great friend.
   [ Applause ]
   She is a great friend of this show.
   Thank you, Barbara.
   Now, listen, before we get behind, I do want us --
   more tributes.
   I never thanked my staff as much as I should.
   I'm somehow in that strange world where I do it easier on camera than
   off.
   But they work so hard, and they are so dedicated, and they take so
   much crap on behalf of this little enterprise that we've done.
   So, you know, for Nancy Geller, who has the passion and never lost it,
   for Scott Carter, my founding brother, and Sheila and Marilyn Wilson,
   who was a network bitch when I met her, and I brought her over to the
   dark side, and I own her soul now, too, and I'm glad I do.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And for Billy Martin and the writers.
   You know, Paul McCartney once said, "I'd rather have a band than a
   Rolls-Royce." And I say the same about a writing team.
   I'd rather have a writing team than a Rolls-Royce or any car.
   And the writers' assistants.
   You know, we never could really hire writers from outside 'cause this
   show was so different.
   I had to grow them here in the lab.
   [ Laughter ]
   And they're all fantastic, and everyone and my fabulous Jew agents and
   managers.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: You know, I'd just like to say that with the cancellation of
   this show, I think the networks can now continue to homogenize the
   news from one network to the next.
   It's the same thing.
   
   Christopher: Homogeny.
   
   Michelle: Homogenized, yes.
   
   Christopher: Homogenized.
   
   Arianna: This could be an opportunity, also, for Bill's next stage.
   And I have a kind of dark dream prophecy that he will replace Martha
   Stewart as the icon of domesticity.
   [ Laughter ]
   We are actually going to see him making this pineapple upside-down
   cake for three screaming kids, hanging up his apron.
   You know, I dare to dream.
   
   Ann: Are you true to the bone? You're sitting here tonight.
   
   Bill: Speaking of dreams, I have to tell you, we were out the other
   night.
   And you know, this whole thing has been --
   the last many months have been a time of reflection in my life because
   whenever change is forced upon you --
   it's good, by the way, but it does make you think.
   And you know, it's been an interesting, trying time, and it made me
   reflect and think.
   And we were out the other night, and I was getting a first amendment
   award, which is sort of my hobby now.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And, you know, as we often go out to these events together, and
   everyone said, "You were so beautiful," and I always agree, and you
   are.
   And I got to thinking, "God, you know, my life is changing now, and
   the show is ending.
   And I'm different.
   And, you know, who do I love to go out with? You.
   Who's my best friend when I need to call somebody? You.
   Who do I call? Who has my back always?" So I know this is hokey to do
   on national television.
   [ Laughter ]
   But --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Arianna --
   would you be the first guest on my new show?
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Here and here and --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Initial it there.
   All right, we gotta take a break.
   We'll be right back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: All right, what do you want to say?
   
   Michelle: Here is a letter from Aaron Sorkin.
   
   Bill: Oh, good.
   Not more about me as a womanizer.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: "Here it lies, victims of the dumbest brand of domestic
   terrorism.
   God bless Bill Maher and his staff and crew of 'Politically
   Incorrect.' God is not done with any of you yet.
   Aaron Sorkin."
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: He knows what a fan I am of his.
   All right.
   My last tribute, the most important, is the audience.
   I was saying on last night's show, they never went away.
   They didn't, and it was not easy to follow us all the time.
   This is an audience that appreciates thinking outside the box, as they
   say these days in television.
   Really thinking outside the box, not just talking about it.
   They don't subscribe to group think.
   They don't care what crosses the line, what's not appropriate.
   They're adults, and I happen to love adults.
   [ Applause ]
   And, you know --
   [ Applause ]
   Every time I do "Larry King" --
   and I love Larry King.
   We go to commercial, he says, "He makes us think differently." And I'm
   as proud as a boy at his bar mitzvah to --
   [ Laughter ]
   But you know, for our core audience, I don't think I make them think
   differently.
   I think they already think differently.
   And on any given night, I say something, and they're like, "Oh, good,
   somebody else thinks that way.
   I'm not crazy, unless Bill's crazy." That's possible.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, really, the rest of the world is crazy.
   And there's a couple of great columnists in this country.
   You are definitely one of them.
   Maureen Dowd is another one, and she wrote this the other day.
   I have to close from this.
   I think it was so telling.
   She talks about a friend of mine who was recalling her days in the
   idealistic child of the '60s.
   And they were talking about America, they were afraid, was gonna get
   run by corporations.
   White male power structure.
   There was a right-wing conspiracy, civil liberties and free speech
   perils.
   And now we wake up, and she says, "It's all come true, and we were the
   empowerers because we've turned into the same selfish people we
   thought we were against.
   We forgot to be suspicious." You have to stay suspicious.
   When this show moved from --
   [ Applause ]
   --
   Comedy Central to ABC, the big thing was, "Are you gonna ruin this
   show, Bill? Are you --
   " and I'm proud to say, I don't think I did because I don't think I
   mellowed, and I will not mellow.
   And I'm not --
   [ Applause ]
   And I'm not going away, I'm just setting up shop in the Bahamas for
   tax purposes for awhile.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, I will not mellow because that's not really what we do here,
   and that's not what I will do.
   We will keep fighting.
   This staff fought tooth and nail, and they always will, and I am
   always appreciative of that.
   And it's like --
   [ Audience member shouts ]
   Thank you! It's like Mr. Exhibit said.
   "It's like ashes to ashes and dust to dust.
   I might leave in a body bag but never in cuffs."
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Christopher: May I? May I?
   
   Bill: And now you --
   
   Christopher: May I? Please.
   A special tribute --
   I'd like to do this.
   A special tribute about my friend, all right? Just a few words about
   how I feel about a man we call Mr. Bill, most chill.
   One of the most outspoken men you'd ever want to see, boy.
   Loves the sisters so much, we nicknamed him Leroy.
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Didn't think there'd be a bond between me and him.
   One minute, he'd be listening to Neil Diamond.
   The next minute, Eminem.
   But over the years, a friendship took shape.
   We shared drinks, some weed and the R. Kelly tape.
   [ Laughter ]
   Something else we shared that I was impressed about was a common mind
   set --
   no B.S. allowed.
   That means keeping it real.
   Real like jail.
   Real like not being afraid to fail and not afraid to say what's
   necessary and not afraid of a bald press secretary.
   Some say your stances have cost you a show, cost you some friends and
   lost you some dough.
   But for the millions of fans that don't want you to go, you just keep
   being Bill.
   That's all we want you to know.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you.
   Thank you, everybody.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
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   06/28/02 Transcript for Friday, June 28, 2002
   Arianna Huffington
   Christopher Tim Reid
   Ann Coulter
   Michelle Phillips
   
   Arianna: I'm Arianna Huffington, and this is Ann Coulter, Christopher
   Reid and Michelle Phillips.
   
   Ann: And we're here to bid farewell to one of the most provocative and
   innovative late-night shows in television history.
   
   Christopher: And to celebrate the man in the big chair for nine years
   and over 1,600 episodes.
   
   Michelle: And I'm just here for the wrap party.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Arianna: I've met funny guys, but none are smart.
   I've met smart guys, but none are funny.
   He single-handedly raised the quality of political debate in America,
   and after midnight, no less.
   He's the ultimate cantankerous romantic.
   Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Maher.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you all very, very much.
   Thank you all.
   Thank you.
   Aw, please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you.
   Thank you.
   Please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you, folks.
   Please.
   Please, folks, we got --
   still a half hour show.
   Sorry, but that's --
   [ Laughter ]
   I really appreciate it.
   That's wonderful.
   You're making it very difficult for me to do the show the way I've
   always done it --
   hung over.
   But --
   [ Laughter ]
   I do appreciate that more than I could tell you.
   It has been a very, very sentimental day here.
   I was packing up, as we do.
   I was in my office, and boy, at the bottom of a drawer, I found the
   very first note of no confidence from the network.
   It was --
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, but it's all good, as the kids say.
   Nine years, I will take it.
   I tell ya, that is not nothin', nine years.
   When you think of the show as --
   [ Applause ]
   When you think that this show is old enough to get hit on by a priest,
   that is old.
   That --
   [ Laughter ]
   I was hoping it would get old enough to get peed on by R. Kelly, but
   you know --
   [ Audience ohs ]
   [ Laughter ]
   Even on my finale, I get boos.
   No, nine years --
   to put that in perspective, Newt Gingrich was still cheating on his
   first wife.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, we have had a nice, long run here.
   Please, come on.
   We have gone through two Presidents.
   And that's just this month at ABC.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   Oh, I kid ABC.
   Poor people, I gave them headaches the whole time.
   We had a sponsor, as a matter of fact, pull out as recently as today.
   [ Laughter ]
   Although they swore it was just for old time's sake.
   [ Laughter ]
   And most of the old times we've had were good.
   I'm tellin' ya, we've had good days here.
   We took the show on the road a lot.
   We loved that.
   I remember the time in Aspen that I talked the conservative virgin and
   the ultra-liberal feminist into the hot tub by describing it as a
   "think tank."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   We have had the bitter and the sweet.
   I have taken the good with the bad.
   I have had death threats and marriage proposals.
   And I've even had guests who swore there was a difference.
   [ Laughter ]
   And in the end, I have just one question --
   How come I'm canceled, and Bin Laden is still on Al Jazeera?
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   We will be right back.
   Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
   Thank you.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Arianna: In the last election, if I can remember --
   my husband is a Republican Congressman --
   I nearly voted for Ross Perot, not because I really believed in him
   but because he was the only Presidential candidate who did not jog,
   you know?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: When I was a kid --
   
   Uh-huh.
   
   Christopher: --
   Looked in the medicine cabinet --
   I must have been about 6 or 7 --
   and I saw Bengay.
   And I thought, "This looks like something that I want to rub on my
   butt."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I don't remember you saying that, either.
   
   Christopher: Not only do I remember saying it, I remember it in its
   original form.
   That was a --
   that was an "oochy-ouch."
   
   Bill: All right, well, listen, I don't want to get behind.
   And what do I mean "behind"? There's no issues today.
   "Behind"? This show is about my behind, you're sitting here, but --
   I just want people to know the original idea of this show was me
   sitting around with my friends.
   That's why I got the idea for the show, was 'cause that's what I did
   at home.
   So I thought, "Why don't we do that on television? Just sitting around
   with interesting people, talking about whatever's going on, without
   the bong."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   So for my last show, I wanted to have --
   I mean, all week --
   really all month, but especially this last week --
   we've had people who have become my friends from this show.
   And that has so much meaning to me.
   That these people, you people here, became such good friends because
   of this show.
   I didn't know any of you, really, before this show.
   And now we have become good friends.
   I have one rule for tonight, which is for nine years on this show, I
   have been able to finish a sentence six times.
   [ Laughter ]
   Once in '93, twice in '95.
   So tonight --
   because as the host, you always have to defer to the guests and let
   them speak.
   Tonight, shut up.
   [ Laughter ]
   When I'm talking --
   one night, the last night, if I speak, shut up! Okay? Because I have a
   few tributes I wanna give to people and thank people.
   And there's a --
   first, the guests, like you.
   I wanna --
   yes, please.
   [ Applause ]
   Every single guest who came on this show was brave.
   You know? This was a show you had to be brave to do.
   There was no nets, no planned bits, no pre-interviews.
   It wasn't like, "Oh, Bill's gonna say, then you're gonna say." And if
   you were stupid, you know, over the years --
   I don't watch this show.
   [ Light laughter ]
   'Cause I'm here, you know.
   But people over the years have told me that the funniest thing on this
   show was the look on my face when someone is saying something stupid.
   [ Light laughter ]
   So I can understand why people were reluctant to do this show.
   So my hat is truly off.
   People should know how grateful I am for all the people who did it.
   'Cause they did it out of love.
   It wasn't that we were plugging a lot of their stuff here.
   This wasn't that kind of a show.
   And whenever I read in the press --
   sometimes they would write something very sneering about, "Oh, you
   know, they don't get the 'A'-list guests." No, we got the "A"-list
   people.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Okay? Yeah, you're right.
   You're right, we didn't get a lot of "A"-list movie stars.
   You know, you're not Julia Roberts, and you're not Will Smith, who are
   both wonderful performers, but I'd rather talk to you.
   And if you didn't get that about the show, you just didn't get the
   show.
   It was about talking to people.
   Now you can talk.
   
   Arianna: But why are you saying --
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Bill: That's my tribute to the guests.
   
   Arianna: Why do you think you became a whipping boy for the media? I
   mean, let me tell you why I think you became a whipping boy for the
   media.
   Because in many ways, you did their job for them.
   Because they were too lazy to do their own job.
   Because they are too much of a little fraternity protecting each
   other.
   Because they didn't want to challenge the viewers, and you did that,
   night in, night out.
   Not just being funny, but also being knowledgeable.
   Don't you agree with me?
   
   Michelle: Of course he does.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would be flattered to think that's true.
   And I appreciate you saying it.
   I also think --
   whenever I read a bad article about me --
   and I just read one the other day.
   It's not hard to find 'em.
   And it's like, "Yadda, yadda, he did this --
   "
   [ Speaking Gibberish ]
   I didn't know if this was a review or --
   it was just like a --
   a cat fight.
   It was just like --
   bitchy, kind of.
   
   Michelle: They called you in one of the articles, "A man of icy
   reserve and considerable ego."
   
   Bill: All right, we don't have to quote them.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: I heard "pit bull with a perm." I've heard a lot of --
   
   Bill: But then --
   after --
   it always gets down to, "Blah, blah --
   'Playboy' mansion." You know? Somehow, that always gets into it.
   Whatever --
   It's like --
   
   Michelle: Well, you do have kind of a reputation about the chicks, the
   women.
   
   Christopher: She's trying to tell you, women like Imelda Marcos with
   shoes.
   You know, that's not --
   but I don't --
   
   Bill: I don't see you that often, that's why.
   
   Michelle: You mean I'm not your friend anymore?
   
   Bill: You are my friend, but --
   
   Arianna: No, but the point is that you made the show be about a lot of
   firsts for many of your guests.
   For me, for example.
   This is the first national show in which I was bleeped --
   just for saying [ bleep ].
   Was that bleeped again now? I don't know.
   [ Laughter ]
   This is also the first show, thanks to you, that I got into bed with
   Al Franken to do political commentary, and I'm probably the only woman
   you know, maybe, who gets a tax deduction for lingerie.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would have --
   I did help your career and your career.
   I mean, as pundits.
   And I mean, I am so much prouder that you two are on the American
   scene with your voices than for having discovered a boy band or
   something.
   [ Laughter ]
   You know? This was a difference.
   [ Applause ]
   Anyway, let me take a break because we don't want to get too far
   behind.
   And you --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: I was not at Woodstock, but I always wanted to know, what was
   wrong with the brown acid?
   
   Michelle: I was at Monterrey Pop, and there we had sunshine --
   sunshine, and there was nothing wrong with it at all.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: How do you know Bob Dole's wife shouldn't walk out on him?
   
   Bill: Well, we do know.
   
   Ann: How close did you get?
   
   Bill: Because the fact that Bob Dole has admitted.
   He said --
   Bob Dole said, "Bob Dole wants out."
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Why does everybody look the same except me in those clips?
   
   Ann: That was the very first show I ever did.
   
   Bill: Oh, yeah?
   
   Ann: Yeah, first time I met you, and I would like to say that in
   addition to being a womanizer and beating the press to their job --
   I'm joking --
   I think this is a very important show, and there's nothing like it on
   TV, and I'm going to be very sorry to see it go because it allows
   people to argue about things that you can't argue about sometimes on
   other shows, not feel inhibited all the time, and moreover, shows that
   you can be friends after having an argument.
   
   Bill: That's great.
   
   Ann: I mean, how much do you and I actually agree on --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Exactly.
   I mean, that is one thing this show has taught me --
   that yes, you can be totally wonderful friends.
   Whenever I come here, we go out with my friends.
   It's always fantastic.
   You can be absolutely wonderful friends with a fascist.
   Anyway --
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: Yes, and in fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to read a letter
   from someone who is evidently constantly shocked that you and I are
   friends.
   Your friend, Barbara Streisand.
   
   Bill: Oh, my God.
   
   Ann: "Dear Bill, keep annoying people.
   Keep making them think.
   Your wonderful gift of challenging the public has empowered our
   country.
   Have a great next chapter.
   Love, Barbara."
   
   Bill: That's sweet.
   She's a great friend.
   [ Applause ]
   She is a great friend of this show.
   Thank you, Barbara.
   Now, listen, before we get behind, I do want us --
   more tributes.
   I never thanked my staff as much as I should.
   I'm somehow in that strange world where I do it easier on camera than
   off.
   But they work so hard, and they are so dedicated, and they take so
   much crap on behalf of this little enterprise that we've done.
   So, you know, for Nancy Geller, who has the passion and never lost it,
   for Scott Carter, my founding brother, and Sheila and Marilyn Wilson,
   who was a network bitch when I met her, and I brought her over to the
   dark side, and I own her soul now, too, and I'm glad I do.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And for Billy Martin and the writers.
   You know, Paul McCartney once said, "I'd rather have a band than a
   Rolls-Royce." And I say the same about a writing team.
   I'd rather have a writing team than a Rolls-Royce or any car.
   And the writers' assistants.
   You know, we never could really hire writers from outside 'cause this
   show was so different.
   I had to grow them here in the lab.
   [ Laughter ]
   And they're all fantastic, and everyone and my fabulous Jew agents and
   managers.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: You know, I'd just like to say that with the cancellation of
   this show, I think the networks can now continue to homogenize the
   news from one network to the next.
   It's the same thing.
   
   Christopher: Homogeny.
   
   Michelle: Homogenized, yes.
   
   Christopher: Homogenized.
   
   Arianna: This could be an opportunity, also, for Bill's next stage.
   And I have a kind of dark dream prophecy that he will replace Martha
   Stewart as the icon of domesticity.
   [ Laughter ]
   We are actually going to see him making this pineapple upside-down
   cake for three screaming kids, hanging up his apron.
   You know, I dare to dream.
   
   Ann: Are you true to the bone? You're sitting here tonight.
   
   Bill: Speaking of dreams, I have to tell you, we were out the other
   night.
   And you know, this whole thing has been --
   the last many months have been a time of reflection in my life because
   whenever change is forced upon you --
   it's good, by the way, but it does make you think.
   And you know, it's been an interesting, trying time, and it made me
   reflect and think.
   And we were out the other night, and I was getting a first amendment
   award, which is sort of my hobby now.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And, you know, as we often go out to these events together, and
   everyone said, "You were so beautiful," and I always agree, and you
   are.
   And I got to thinking, "God, you know, my life is changing now, and
   the show is ending.
   And I'm different.
   And, you know, who do I love to go out with? You.
   Who's my best friend when I need to call somebody? You.
   Who do I call? Who has my back always?" So I know this is hokey to do
   on national television.
   [ Laughter ]
   But --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Arianna --
   would you be the first guest on my new show?
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Here and here and --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Initial it there.
   All right, we gotta take a break.
   We'll be right back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: All right, what do you want to say?
   
   Michelle: Here is a letter from Aaron Sorkin.
   
   Bill: Oh, good.
   Not more about me as a womanizer.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: "Here it lies, victims of the dumbest brand of domestic
   terrorism.
   God bless Bill Maher and his staff and crew of 'Politically
   Incorrect.' God is not done with any of you yet.
   Aaron Sorkin."
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: He knows what a fan I am of his.
   All right.
   My last tribute, the most important, is the audience.
   I was saying on last night's show, they never went away.
   They didn't, and it was not easy to follow us all the time.
   This is an audience that appreciates thinking outside the box, as they
   say these days in television.
   Really thinking outside the box, not just talking about it.
   They don't subscribe to group think.
   They don't care what crosses the line, what's not appropriate.
   They're adults, and I happen to love adults.
   [ Applause ]
   And, you know --
   [ Applause ]
   Every time I do "Larry King" --
   and I love Larry King.
   We go to commercial, he says, "He makes us think differently." And I'm
   as proud as a boy at his bar mitzvah to --
   [ Laughter ]
   But you know, for our core audience, I don't think I make them think
   differently.
   I think they already think differently.
   And on any given night, I say something, and they're like, "Oh, good,
   somebody else thinks that way.
   I'm not crazy, unless Bill's crazy." That's possible.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, really, the rest of the world is crazy.
   And there's a couple of great columnists in this country.
   You are definitely one of them.
   Maureen Dowd is another one, and she wrote this the other day.
   I have to close from this.
   I think it was so telling.
   She talks about a friend of mine who was recalling her days in the
   idealistic child of the '60s.
   And they were talking about America, they were afraid, was gonna get
   run by corporations.
   White male power structure.
   There was a right-wing conspiracy, civil liberties and free speech
   perils.
   And now we wake up, and she says, "It's all come true, and we were the
   empowerers because we've turned into the same selfish people we
   thought we were against.
   We forgot to be suspicious." You have to stay suspicious.
   When this show moved from --
   [ Applause ]
   --
   Comedy Central to ABC, the big thing was, "Are you gonna ruin this
   show, Bill? Are you --
   " and I'm proud to say, I don't think I did because I don't think I
   mellowed, and I will not mellow.
   And I'm not --
   [ Applause ]
   And I'm not going away, I'm just setting up shop in the Bahamas for
   tax purposes for awhile.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, I will not mellow because that's not really what we do here,
   and that's not what I will do.
   We will keep fighting.
   This staff fought tooth and nail, and they always will, and I am
   always appreciative of that.
   And it's like --
   [ Audience member shouts ]
   Thank you! It's like Mr. Exhibit said.
   "It's like ashes to ashes and dust to dust.
   I might leave in a body bag but never in cuffs."
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Christopher: May I? May I?
   
   Bill: And now you --
   
   Christopher: May I? Please.
   A special tribute --
   I'd like to do this.
   A special tribute about my friend, all right? Just a few words about
   how I feel about a man we call Mr. Bill, most chill.
   One of the most outspoken men you'd ever want to see, boy.
   Loves the sisters so much, we nicknamed him Leroy.
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Didn't think there'd be a bond between me and him.
   One minute, he'd be listening to Neil Diamond.
   The next minute, Eminem.
   But over the years, a friendship took shape.
   We shared drinks, some weed and the R. Kelly tape.
   [ Laughter ]
   Something else we shared that I was impressed about was a common mind
   set --
   no B.S. allowed.
   That means keeping it real.
   Real like jail.
   Real like not being afraid to fail and not afraid to say what's
   necessary and not afraid of a bald press secretary.
   Some say your stances have cost you a show, cost you some friends and
   lost you some dough.
   But for the millions of fans that don't want you to go, you just keep
   being Bill.
   That's all we want you to know.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you.
   Thank you, everybody.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
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   Arianna Huffington
   Christopher Tim Reid
   Ann Coulter
   Michelle Phillips
   
   Arianna: I'm Arianna Huffington, and this is Ann Coulter, Christopher
   Reid and Michelle Phillips.
   
   Ann: And we're here to bid farewell to one of the most provocative and
   innovative late-night shows in television history.
   
   Christopher: And to celebrate the man in the big chair for nine years
   and over 1,600 episodes.
   
   Michelle: And I'm just here for the wrap party.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Arianna: I've met funny guys, but none are smart.
   I've met smart guys, but none are funny.
   He single-handedly raised the quality of political debate in America,
   and after midnight, no less.
   He's the ultimate cantankerous romantic.
   Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Maher.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you all very, very much.
   Thank you all.
   Thank you.
   Aw, please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you.
   Thank you.
   Please.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Thank you, folks.
   Please.
   Please, folks, we got --
   still a half hour show.
   Sorry, but that's --
   [ Laughter ]
   I really appreciate it.
   That's wonderful.
   You're making it very difficult for me to do the show the way I've
   always done it --
   hung over.
   But --
   [ Laughter ]
   I do appreciate that more than I could tell you.
   It has been a very, very sentimental day here.
   I was packing up, as we do.
   I was in my office, and boy, at the bottom of a drawer, I found the
   very first note of no confidence from the network.
   It was --
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, but it's all good, as the kids say.
   Nine years, I will take it.
   I tell ya, that is not nothin', nine years.
   When you think of the show as --
   [ Applause ]
   When you think that this show is old enough to get hit on by a priest,
   that is old.
   That --
   [ Laughter ]
   I was hoping it would get old enough to get peed on by R. Kelly, but
   you know --
   [ Audience ohs ]
   [ Laughter ]
   Even on my finale, I get boos.
   No, nine years --
   to put that in perspective, Newt Gingrich was still cheating on his
   first wife.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   No, we have had a nice, long run here.
   Please, come on.
   We have gone through two Presidents.
   And that's just this month at ABC.
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   Oh, I kid ABC.
   Poor people, I gave them headaches the whole time.
   We had a sponsor, as a matter of fact, pull out as recently as today.
   [ Laughter ]
   Although they swore it was just for old time's sake.
   [ Laughter ]
   And most of the old times we've had were good.
   I'm tellin' ya, we've had good days here.
   We took the show on the road a lot.
   We loved that.
   I remember the time in Aspen that I talked the conservative virgin and
   the ultra-liberal feminist into the hot tub by describing it as a
   "think tank."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   We have had the bitter and the sweet.
   I have taken the good with the bad.
   I have had death threats and marriage proposals.
   And I've even had guests who swore there was a difference.
   [ Laughter ]
   And in the end, I have just one question --
   How come I'm canceled, and Bin Laden is still on Al Jazeera?
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   We will be right back.
   Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
   Thank you.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Arianna: In the last election, if I can remember --
   my husband is a Republican Congressman --
   I nearly voted for Ross Perot, not because I really believed in him
   but because he was the only Presidential candidate who did not jog,
   you know?
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: When I was a kid --
   
   Uh-huh.
   
   Christopher: --
   Looked in the medicine cabinet --
   I must have been about 6 or 7 --
   and I saw Bengay.
   And I thought, "This looks like something that I want to rub on my
   butt."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I don't remember you saying that, either.
   
   Christopher: Not only do I remember saying it, I remember it in its
   original form.
   That was a --
   that was an "oochy-ouch."
   
   Bill: All right, well, listen, I don't want to get behind.
   And what do I mean "behind"? There's no issues today.
   "Behind"? This show is about my behind, you're sitting here, but --
   I just want people to know the original idea of this show was me
   sitting around with my friends.
   That's why I got the idea for the show, was 'cause that's what I did
   at home.
   So I thought, "Why don't we do that on television? Just sitting around
   with interesting people, talking about whatever's going on, without
   the bong."
   [ Laughter ]
   [ Applause ]
   So for my last show, I wanted to have --
   I mean, all week --
   really all month, but especially this last week --
   we've had people who have become my friends from this show.
   And that has so much meaning to me.
   That these people, you people here, became such good friends because
   of this show.
   I didn't know any of you, really, before this show.
   And now we have become good friends.
   I have one rule for tonight, which is for nine years on this show, I
   have been able to finish a sentence six times.
   [ Laughter ]
   Once in '93, twice in '95.
   So tonight --
   because as the host, you always have to defer to the guests and let
   them speak.
   Tonight, shut up.
   [ Laughter ]
   When I'm talking --
   one night, the last night, if I speak, shut up! Okay? Because I have a
   few tributes I wanna give to people and thank people.
   And there's a --
   first, the guests, like you.
   I wanna --
   yes, please.
   [ Applause ]
   Every single guest who came on this show was brave.
   You know? This was a show you had to be brave to do.
   There was no nets, no planned bits, no pre-interviews.
   It wasn't like, "Oh, Bill's gonna say, then you're gonna say." And if
   you were stupid, you know, over the years --
   I don't watch this show.
   [ Light laughter ]
   'Cause I'm here, you know.
   But people over the years have told me that the funniest thing on this
   show was the look on my face when someone is saying something stupid.
   [ Light laughter ]
   So I can understand why people were reluctant to do this show.
   So my hat is truly off.
   People should know how grateful I am for all the people who did it.
   'Cause they did it out of love.
   It wasn't that we were plugging a lot of their stuff here.
   This wasn't that kind of a show.
   And whenever I read in the press --
   sometimes they would write something very sneering about, "Oh, you
   know, they don't get the 'A'-list guests." No, we got the "A"-list
   people.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Okay? Yeah, you're right.
   You're right, we didn't get a lot of "A"-list movie stars.
   You know, you're not Julia Roberts, and you're not Will Smith, who are
   both wonderful performers, but I'd rather talk to you.
   And if you didn't get that about the show, you just didn't get the
   show.
   It was about talking to people.
   Now you can talk.
   
   Arianna: But why are you saying --
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Bill: That's my tribute to the guests.
   
   Arianna: Why do you think you became a whipping boy for the media? I
   mean, let me tell you why I think you became a whipping boy for the
   media.
   Because in many ways, you did their job for them.
   Because they were too lazy to do their own job.
   Because they are too much of a little fraternity protecting each
   other.
   Because they didn't want to challenge the viewers, and you did that,
   night in, night out.
   Not just being funny, but also being knowledgeable.
   Don't you agree with me?
   
   Michelle: Of course he does.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would be flattered to think that's true.
   And I appreciate you saying it.
   I also think --
   whenever I read a bad article about me --
   and I just read one the other day.
   It's not hard to find 'em.
   And it's like, "Yadda, yadda, he did this --
   "
   [ Speaking Gibberish ]
   I didn't know if this was a review or --
   it was just like a --
   a cat fight.
   It was just like --
   bitchy, kind of.
   
   Michelle: They called you in one of the articles, "A man of icy
   reserve and considerable ego."
   
   Bill: All right, we don't have to quote them.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Christopher: I heard "pit bull with a perm." I've heard a lot of --
   
   Bill: But then --
   after --
   it always gets down to, "Blah, blah --
   'Playboy' mansion." You know? Somehow, that always gets into it.
   Whatever --
   It's like --
   
   Michelle: Well, you do have kind of a reputation about the chicks, the
   women.
   
   Christopher: She's trying to tell you, women like Imelda Marcos with
   shoes.
   You know, that's not --
   but I don't --
   
   Bill: I don't see you that often, that's why.
   
   Michelle: You mean I'm not your friend anymore?
   
   Bill: You are my friend, but --
   
   Arianna: No, but the point is that you made the show be about a lot of
   firsts for many of your guests.
   For me, for example.
   This is the first national show in which I was bleeped --
   just for saying [ bleep ].
   Was that bleeped again now? I don't know.
   [ Laughter ]
   This is also the first show, thanks to you, that I got into bed with
   Al Franken to do political commentary, and I'm probably the only woman
   you know, maybe, who gets a tax deduction for lingerie.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Bill: Yeah, I mean, I would have --
   I did help your career and your career.
   I mean, as pundits.
   And I mean, I am so much prouder that you two are on the American
   scene with your voices than for having discovered a boy band or
   something.
   [ Laughter ]
   You know? This was a difference.
   [ Applause ]
   Anyway, let me take a break because we don't want to get too far
   behind.
   And you --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: I was not at Woodstock, but I always wanted to know, what was
   wrong with the brown acid?
   
   Michelle: I was at Monterrey Pop, and there we had sunshine --
   sunshine, and there was nothing wrong with it at all.
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: How do you know Bob Dole's wife shouldn't walk out on him?
   
   Bill: Well, we do know.
   
   Ann: How close did you get?
   
   Bill: Because the fact that Bob Dole has admitted.
   He said --
   Bob Dole said, "Bob Dole wants out."
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Why does everybody look the same except me in those clips?
   
   Ann: That was the very first show I ever did.
   
   Bill: Oh, yeah?
   
   Ann: Yeah, first time I met you, and I would like to say that in
   addition to being a womanizer and beating the press to their job --
   I'm joking --
   I think this is a very important show, and there's nothing like it on
   TV, and I'm going to be very sorry to see it go because it allows
   people to argue about things that you can't argue about sometimes on
   other shows, not feel inhibited all the time, and moreover, shows that
   you can be friends after having an argument.
   
   Bill: That's great.
   
   Ann: I mean, how much do you and I actually agree on --
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: Exactly.
   I mean, that is one thing this show has taught me --
   that yes, you can be totally wonderful friends.
   Whenever I come here, we go out with my friends.
   It's always fantastic.
   You can be absolutely wonderful friends with a fascist.
   Anyway --
   [ Laughter ]
   
   Ann: Yes, and in fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to read a letter
   from someone who is evidently constantly shocked that you and I are
   friends.
   Your friend, Barbara Streisand.
   
   Bill: Oh, my God.
   
   Ann: "Dear Bill, keep annoying people.
   Keep making them think.
   Your wonderful gift of challenging the public has empowered our
   country.
   Have a great next chapter.
   Love, Barbara."
   
   Bill: That's sweet.
   She's a great friend.
   [ Applause ]
   She is a great friend of this show.
   Thank you, Barbara.
   Now, listen, before we get behind, I do want us --
   more tributes.
   I never thanked my staff as much as I should.
   I'm somehow in that strange world where I do it easier on camera than
   off.
   But they work so hard, and they are so dedicated, and they take so
   much crap on behalf of this little enterprise that we've done.
   So, you know, for Nancy Geller, who has the passion and never lost it,
   for Scott Carter, my founding brother, and Sheila and Marilyn Wilson,
   who was a network bitch when I met her, and I brought her over to the
   dark side, and I own her soul now, too, and I'm glad I do.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And for Billy Martin and the writers.
   You know, Paul McCartney once said, "I'd rather have a band than a
   Rolls-Royce." And I say the same about a writing team.
   I'd rather have a writing team than a Rolls-Royce or any car.
   And the writers' assistants.
   You know, we never could really hire writers from outside 'cause this
   show was so different.
   I had to grow them here in the lab.
   [ Laughter ]
   And they're all fantastic, and everyone and my fabulous Jew agents and
   managers.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: You know, I'd just like to say that with the cancellation of
   this show, I think the networks can now continue to homogenize the
   news from one network to the next.
   It's the same thing.
   
   Christopher: Homogeny.
   
   Michelle: Homogenized, yes.
   
   Christopher: Homogenized.
   
   Arianna: This could be an opportunity, also, for Bill's next stage.
   And I have a kind of dark dream prophecy that he will replace Martha
   Stewart as the icon of domesticity.
   [ Laughter ]
   We are actually going to see him making this pineapple upside-down
   cake for three screaming kids, hanging up his apron.
   You know, I dare to dream.
   
   Ann: Are you true to the bone? You're sitting here tonight.
   
   Bill: Speaking of dreams, I have to tell you, we were out the other
   night.
   And you know, this whole thing has been --
   the last many months have been a time of reflection in my life because
   whenever change is forced upon you --
   it's good, by the way, but it does make you think.
   And you know, it's been an interesting, trying time, and it made me
   reflect and think.
   And we were out the other night, and I was getting a first amendment
   award, which is sort of my hobby now.
   [ Light laughter ]
   And, you know, as we often go out to these events together, and
   everyone said, "You were so beautiful," and I always agree, and you
   are.
   And I got to thinking, "God, you know, my life is changing now, and
   the show is ending.
   And I'm different.
   And, you know, who do I love to go out with? You.
   Who's my best friend when I need to call somebody? You.
   Who do I call? Who has my back always?" So I know this is hokey to do
   on national television.
   [ Laughter ]
   But --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Arianna --
   would you be the first guest on my new show?
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Here and here and --
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   Initial it there.
   All right, we gotta take a break.
   We'll be right back.
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: All right, what do you want to say?
   
   Michelle: Here is a letter from Aaron Sorkin.
   
   Bill: Oh, good.
   Not more about me as a womanizer.
   [ Light laughter ]
   
   Michelle: "Here it lies, victims of the dumbest brand of domestic
   terrorism.
   God bless Bill Maher and his staff and crew of 'Politically
   Incorrect.' God is not done with any of you yet.
   Aaron Sorkin."
   [ Applause ]
   
   Bill: He knows what a fan I am of his.
   All right.
   My last tribute, the most important, is the audience.
   I was saying on last night's show, they never went away.
   They didn't, and it was not easy to follow us all the time.
   This is an audience that appreciates thinking outside the box, as they
   say these days in television.
   Really thinking outside the box, not just talking about it.
   They don't subscribe to group think.
   They don't care what crosses the line, what's not appropriate.
   They're adults, and I happen to love adults.
   [ Applause ]
   And, you know --
   [ Applause ]
   Every time I do "Larry King" --
   and I love Larry King.
   We go to commercial, he says, "He makes us think differently." And I'm
   as proud as a boy at his bar mitzvah to --
   [ Laughter ]
   But you know, for our core audience, I don't think I make them think
   differently.
   I think they already think differently.
   And on any given night, I say something, and they're like, "Oh, good,
   somebody else thinks that way.
   I'm not crazy, unless Bill's crazy." That's possible.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, really, the rest of the world is crazy.
   And there's a couple of great columnists in this country.
   You are definitely one of them.
   Maureen Dowd is another one, and she wrote this the other day.
   I have to close from this.
   I think it was so telling.
   She talks about a friend of mine who was recalling her days in the
   idealistic child of the '60s.
   And they were talking about America, they were afraid, was gonna get
   run by corporations.
   White male power structure.
   There was a right-wing conspiracy, civil liberties and free speech
   perils.
   And now we wake up, and she says, "It's all come true, and we were the
   empowerers because we've turned into the same selfish people we
   thought we were against.
   We forgot to be suspicious." You have to stay suspicious.
   When this show moved from --
   [ Applause ]
   --
   Comedy Central to ABC, the big thing was, "Are you gonna ruin this
   show, Bill? Are you --
   " and I'm proud to say, I don't think I did because I don't think I
   mellowed, and I will not mellow.
   And I'm not --
   [ Applause ]
   And I'm not going away, I'm just setting up shop in the Bahamas for
   tax purposes for awhile.
   [ Laughter ]
   But no, I will not mellow because that's not really what we do here,
   and that's not what I will do.
   We will keep fighting.
   This staff fought tooth and nail, and they always will, and I am
   always appreciative of that.
   And it's like --
   [ Audience member shouts ]
   Thank you! It's like Mr. Exhibit said.
   "It's like ashes to ashes and dust to dust.
   I might leave in a body bag but never in cuffs."
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Christopher: May I? May I?
   
   Bill: And now you --
   
   Christopher: May I? Please.
   A special tribute --
   I'd like to do this.
   A special tribute about my friend, all right? Just a few words about
   how I feel about a man we call Mr. Bill, most chill.
   One of the most outspoken men you'd ever want to see, boy.
   Loves the sisters so much, we nicknamed him Leroy.
   [ Laughter and applause ]
   Didn't think there'd be a bond between me and him.
   One minute, he'd be listening to Neil Diamond.
   The next minute, Eminem.
   But over the years, a friendship took shape.
   We shared drinks, some weed and the R. Kelly tape.
   [ Laughter ]
   Something else we shared that I was impressed about was a common mind
   set --
   no B.S. allowed.
   That means keeping it real.
   Real like jail.
   Real like not being afraid to fail and not afraid to say what's
   necessary and not afraid of a bald press secretary.
   Some say your stances have cost you a show, cost you some friends and
   lost you some dough.
   But for the millions of fans that don't want you to go, you just keep
   being Bill.
   That's all we want you to know.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
   Bill: Thank you.
   Thank you, everybody.
   [ Cheers and applause ]
   
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From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:44:25 2002
Subject: Re: Cable's Original Programming
To: Tom_Krewson@cable.comcast.com (Krewson, Tom)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:44:25 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <9A572B4C93CAEF44B1F7E9825A718DE216D98E@idcexcg01> from "Krewson, Tom" at Jul 12, 2002 02:08:48 PM
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Hey Tom, I'm on vacation but will be in on Monday -- call me again with
all those dates you're free but this time on the
cell: 816-678-5946.  Thanks!


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> For Immediate Release:
> Contact:  Rob Stoddard/
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> 
> Friday, July 12, 2002
> Marc O. Smith
> 
> 
> =20
> 202-775-3629
> 
> 
> =20
> 
> CABLE NETWORKS AIM HIGHER WITH=20
> 
> STRONG, INNOVATIVE ORIGINAL PROGRAMMING
> 
> =20
> 
> 
> Semi-Annual Television Critics' Tour Highlights=20
> 
> 
> Diversity and Depth of Cable Programming
> 
> 
> =20
> 
> 
> The Nation After September 11=20
> 
> 
> Provides One Theme for Cable Efforts
> 
> 
> =20
> 
>             Pasadena, CA -- Cable programming networks are poised to =
> further
> strengthen the medium's growing lead in share of viewers with a raft of
> unique and innovative original programming scheduled to premier in the =
> weeks
> and months ahead.
> 
> =20
> 
> Nineteen programming companies this week previewed and described =
> hundreds of
> hours of original programs that will air on dozens of cable channels =
> later
> this year.  Members of the Television Critics Association (TCA) were =
> briefed
> by programming talent and cable network executives here at the =
> semiannual
> "Critics' Tour."  The cable-exclusive portion of the tour, managed by =
> the
> National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA) in partnership =
> with
> TCA and NCTA-member programming companies, commenced on Tuesday, July =
> 9, and
> concludes today.
> 
> =20
> 
> "We've been witness this week to a parade of programming that benefits =
> from
> attributes unique to cable - flexible formats, creative freedom, and
> strongly committed network audiences," said Jill Luckett, Vice =
> President,
> Program Network Policy, NCTA.  "The critics and journalists here will
> provide their own analyses of the content that's been previewed.  =
> Whether
> the reviews are good, bad, or indifferent, there's no denying the =
> networks'
> efforts to please their viewers with quality productions that set cable
> apart from broadcast and other entertainment media." =20
> 
> =20
> 
> Even as the cable networks were demonstrating product to further expand
> their audiences, recent viewership data as reported in trade and =
> consumer
> publications, showed cable extending its viewership lead over the four =
> major
> broadcast networks.  Those reports showed cable networks in June 2002
> capturing 54 percent of the total prime-time viewing audience, compared =
> to
> 35 percent for the broadcast networks.  In addition, the =
> Cabletelevision
> Advertising Bureau (CAB) has cited television ratings data showing that
> ad-supported cable networks have earned more than 50 percent of the
> primetime viewing share for six consecutive weeks.
> 
> =20
> 
> Cable networks this week demonstrated the increasing value of cable
> programming through these and other examples of upcoming quality =
> original
> programs (listed in the order in which they were presented to TCA =
> members):
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Oxygen introduced Candice Checks It Out, a new weekly =
> series
> hosted by five-time Emmy Award-winning Candice Bergen.  The field-based
> program, in which the host goes on-location to "check out" =
> extraordinary
> people and subjects of interest to her, pairs Bergen with non-celebrity
> subjects in their everyday environments.
> 
> - more -
> 
> 
> July 2002 TCA
> 
> 
> Page 2
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Hallmark Channel unveiled its movie Johnson County War =
> starring
> Burt Reynolds, Luke Perry and Tom Berenger in an epic story, =
> reminiscent of
> the great classic Westerns, of one homesteading family's struggle to =
> survive
> in the burgeoning cattle business amid their competitors' efforts to =
> thwart
> them.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         E! Entertainment presented The Anna Nicole Show, a new =
> weekly
> reality-based series featuring the life of the outlandish =
> model/playmate/pop
> culture sensation Anna Nicole Smith.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         ESPN featured a preview of the ESPY Awards, hosted by =
> Samuel L.
> Jackson.  The 10th annual program, which aired July 10, assembled =
> athletes
> and entertainment celebrities to recognize top achievements in sports,
> relive the memorable moments, and salute the best performers and
> performances in sports.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         USA Network highlighted Murder in Greenwich, an adaptation =
> of Mark
> Fuhrman's book by the same title, which explores the Michael Skakel =
> case.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         SCI FI Channel introduced Steven Spielberg Presents Taken, =
> an
> unprecedented 20-hour television miniseries comprising 10, two-hour =
> segments
> that are both self-contained and serial in nature.  It's produced by =
> SCI FI
> Channel, DreamWorks Television and Steven Spielberg.  The saga, which
> follows three families as they grapple with the secret world of alien
> abduction, features Joel Gretsh, Catherine Dent, and Eric Close.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         BBC America offers the male answer to Sex and the City in =
> its
> sophisticated new comedy-drama Manchild, starring Nigel Havers and =
> Anthony
> Stewart Head.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Veteran talk-show host Phil Donahue previewed his return to
> television -- after a six-year absence -- on MSNBC's nightly =
> (Monday-Friday)
> series Donahue, which will feature interviews with newsmakers, =
> reporters and
> analysts.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Court TV presented The Interrogation of Michael Crowe, the
> network's second issue-based original movie production.  Ally Sheedy =
> stars
> in this program based on the DuPont-Columbia Award-winning documentary =
> that
> examined the coerced confession of teenager Michael Crowe.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Food Network introduced a variety of appetizing new =
> lifestyle
> programs and specials, such as Top 5, a culinary pop-culture countdown
> hosted by Bobby Rivers.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Raven (formerly known as Raven-Symone of The Cosby Show)
> highlighted her starring role in Disney Channel's new sitcom That's So
> Raven, featuring a winsome teen whose ability to glimpse flashes of the
> future often gets her into hot water.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Discovery Channel featured James Cameron's Expedition: =
> Bismarck
> (working title) in which the writer, director and producer of the
> Oscar-winning Titanic documents the dramatic World War II story of the =
> DKM
> Bismarck that took 1,400 lives when it sank in the North Atlantic.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         BRAVO introduced its highly touted drama series, Breaking =
> News,
> directed by Ken Olin and starring Tim Matheson, Lisa Ann Walter and =
> Clancy
> Brown, capturing the inner-workings of a 24-hour news network.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         A&E introduced its original movie Lathe of Heaven, based on
> novelist Ursula K. KeGuin's modern masterpiece of supernatural =
> suspense.
> Lukas Haas and David Strathairn star in this drama set in a society of =
> the
> future.
> 
> =20
> 
> - more -
> 
> 
> July 2002 TCA
> 
> 
> Page 3
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         The History Channel profiled its special presentation Fire =
> On the
> Mountain, based on John MacLean's critically-acclaimed book, and =
> focusing on
> the Chicago Tribune reporter's investigation of the true circumstances
> behind the tragic brush fire on Storm King Mountain.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Lifetime introduced its series, For the People, featuring =
> Lea
> Thompson, Debbi Morgan, A Martinez and Cecilia Suarez, and depicting =
> the
> diverse professional and personal lives of strong, passionate women in =
> the
> Los Angeles District Attorney's office, who find themselves on opposite =
> ends
> of the political spectrum -- yet who pursue a common goal.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Showtime previewed its film production of Bang Bang You're =
> Dead,
> recipient of "Best Feature [Voted by the Audience]" at the 2002 =
> Nantucket
> Film Festival, which explores the disturbing epidemic of school =
> violence as
> seen through the eyes of a student who is both a victim and at risk of
> becoming a perpetrator.  Ben Foster, Tom Cavanaugh, Janel Moloney and =
> Randy
> Harrison star in this "Original Picture for All Ages."
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Turner Broadcasting featured a look at Connie Chung =
> Tonight,
> hosted by Connie Chung of CNN News Group.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         Comedy Central previewed upcoming plans for the seventh =
> season of
> its Emmy- and Peabody-award winning series The Daily Show with Jon =
> Stewart.
> 
> =20
> 
> =B7         HBO chronicled its 13-week episodic series, The Wire, which
> follows a single sprawling investigation from the point of view of the
> police and their targets.  The program, executive-produced by David =
> Simon
> and Robert F. Colesberry, stars Dominic West, Sonja Sohn and Larry
> Guilliard, Jr.
> 
> =20
> 
> Fox Cable Network Group also will brief the television critics, in
> conjunction with the presentations about  Fox's broadcast network
> programming, during the broadcast portion of the tour later this month.
> 
> =20
> 
> While the content of previewed programming clearly varies and is =
> dictated
> largely by network niches, this summer's tour also showed that the =
> nation's
> recovery from the terrorist attacks of last September 11 is providing =
> one
> theme for programs under development by several cable networks. =20
> 
> =20
> 
> Two short films produced for Oxygen - A Smile Gone, But Where? and The =
> Women
> of Rockaway Beach - examine the process of loss and recovery, and will =
> air
> on September 11, 2002.  In a unique twist, BBC America will introduce =
> Ground
> Force: New York, a look at the transformation by gardening of lots in =
> New
> York City neighborhoods, as a tool in rejuvenating the city.  Travel
> Channel's Airport: On Alert will chronicle with actual documentary =
> footage
> the activities and responses of the nation's airports on and after =
> September
> 11.  And, in reintroducing Phil Donahue to a sustained national =
> television
> audience through its new nightly news interview program, Donahue, MSNBC
> reported that Donahue was lured back to television partly in response =
> to the
> events of September 11 and their impact on the content and reporting of
> news.  These were just some of the programs previewed this week that =
> relate
> to, or were influenced by, September 11. =20
> 
> =20
> 
> Cable networks as a group will next brief TCA members January 7-9, =
> 2003, at
> the Hollywood Renaissance Hotel in Hollywood, CA. =20
> 
> =20
> 
> NCTA is the principal trade association of the cable television =
> industry in
> the United States.  NCTA represents cable operators serving more than =
> 90
> percent of the nation's cable television households and more than 200 =
> cable
> program networks, as well as equipment suppliers and providers of other
> services to the cable industry.
> 
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From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:44:55 2002
Subject: Re: before the wires
To: darren@8e6.net
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <19982096.1026494841461.JavaMail.wasadmin@psc941> from "darren@8e6.net" at Jul 12, 2002 01:25:05 PM
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Thanks, Darren -- I'm on vacation this week.

> 
> Aaron 
> 
> I want to forward a press release to you before it hits the wires on Tuesday morning from 8e6 Technologies, and I thought you might want to get a jump-start if you're interested; it should have wide-ranging implications.
> 
> 
> 8e6 TECHNOLOGIES WARNS TRIANGLEBOY STILL A THREAT TO INTERNET FILTERS 
> 
> Crowley ISD finds its students using Triangleboy network to circumvent filters
> 
> ORANGE, CA ? July 16, 2002 ? 8e6 Technologies today issued a warning to Network Administrators in corporations and school districts that many filtering products have a gaping hole that some users are exploiting.  One of 8e6?s customers, Crowley Independent School District, ran a detailed test to determine if the leading filtering products would prevent users from using the rogue Triangleboy network to get around filtering and also examined their traffic to see if any of their users were actually using Triangleboy.
> 
> Crowley, Texas is located 15 miles south of Fort Worth. Crowley I.S.D. educates almost 9,200 students at seven elementary schools, two middle schools and two high schools.  The district tested several filtering products and found that the 8e6 Technologies solution best fit their needs.
> 
> ?The results were startling,? said Chad Ingram, network technician at Crowley.  ?The only filter we tested that stopped Triangleboy use was the 8e6 Technologies R2000.  Then, using the 8e6 Enterprise Reporter, we took a look at the logs to see if we actually had users trying to contact the Triangleboy network. We found that in the first 48 hours, users had gone to the primary Triangleboy website over 30 separate times.?
> 
> Triangleboy is a network of computers acting as servers, such that an Internet surfer can contact a Triangleboy server and nearly all filtering products can?t detect any surfing from there.  The user can then surf unfiltered and undetected through the encrypted connection.
> 
> ?We have found that Triangleboy is a big concern for many of our clients, as it effectively gets around many of our competitor?s filtering products,? said Dave Salch, CTO of 8e6 Technologies.  ?Because of its stealth nature, it does not show up in reports from many filtering products and the administrator doesn?t even know the problem exists and has no way to check it.?
> 
> ?It seemed to be a pretty easy work around for anyone with a bit of computer savvy.?  Said Steve Stricklin of Crowley ISD.  ?We were shocked that most filters don?t block or track this traffic.  Without 8e6?s attention to this issue, we wouldn?t have even seen the problem.?
> 
> The 8e6 R2000 Internet Filtering appliance and 8e6 Enterprise Reporter are industry-leading products that are in use in some of the largest networks in the world.  8e6 specializes in providing fast and accurate filtering to customers in large network environments.
> 
> About 8e6 Technologies
> 8e6 Technologies is a privately held software and hardware developer, specializing in Internet filtering solutions for thousands of businesses, ISPs and schools throughout the world. Located in Orange, California, the company assists clients in managing the impact of the Internet on employee productivity, legal liability and abuse of network resources, through flexible, accurate and high speed filtering of Internet content.  For more information visit: www.8e6technologies.com. 
> 
> Contact for media and analysts:
> 
> Eric Lundbohm
> 8e6 Technologies
> Phone: 714-282-6111 ext. 161
> e-mail address: elundbohm@8e6technologies.com
> 
> or
> 
> Darren Shuster, M.A.
> PR Representative
> 8e6 Technologies
> Phone: (818) 262-2834
> E-Mail: darren@8e6.net
> 
> 
> 



From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:46:07 2002
Subject: Re: tv barn
To: annabelle818@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:46:07 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <20020712022327.28544.qmail@web14101.mail.yahoo.com> from "annabelle818@yahoo.com" at Jul 11, 2002 07:23:27 PM
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Thanks!

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> Hullo!  Your big brother put me onto your site at the Xena Palace.  Keep up the good work!  
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> <P>Hullo!&nbsp; Your big brother put me onto your site at the Xena Palace.&nbsp; Keep up the good work!&nbsp; </P>
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From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:46:48 2002
Subject: Re: TVBARN.COM Feedback
To: Breen@connectfree.co.uk (Breen Sweeney)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:46:48 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <008701c2294a$a7956620$c20c2850@q6nfp> from "Breen Sweeney" at Jul 12, 2002 03:20:12 AM
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Well, thank you -- glad to know somebody out there doesn't like Dave!  I
wondered where they'd all gone.


> 
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> Hi Aaron,
> 
> Your big brother gave me and Annie and Belle the link to TV Barn. It's a =
> great site. It must take you a lot of time and effort to maintain it.
> 
> We're giving your brother a hard time at the moment, because he likes =
> Letterman, but Annie and I don't. haha.
> 
> Regards, Breen from London, England.
> 
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From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:48:44 2002
Subject: Security card no.
To: egodt@kcstar.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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Hi Eric, here's my card no

K3218 1261113




From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:49:42 2002
Subject: Re: troll
To: trow@interbridge.com (Sue Trowbridge)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:49:42 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207111304260.84220-100000@mwmw.com> from "Sue Trowbridge" at Jul 11, 2002 01:04:54 PM
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ok.

> 
> Can't you dropkick that bfwhalen guy out of TVB2? He's now becoming
> abusive to the posters.
> 
> 
> 



From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:57:31 2002
Subject: Re: [tvbarn2] Re: Fox dont no much
To: jsnell@macworld.com (Jason Snell)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:57:31 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <p05200224b9534a310489@[192.168.101.14]> from "Jason Snell" at Jul 11, 2002 07:44:32 AM
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Am on vacation, just loggging on from Minnesota.  He's gone.

> 
> >I think you need to get a life, even if you aren't very observant.
> >Viewers don't expect literary excellence from Fox nor the Alaska
> >hookers. Maybe Fox should do a down on a bitter feminist looking for
> >something to bitch about.
> 
> Isn't it about time to ban this jackass?
> -- 
> Jason Snell / Editor, Macworld
> jsnell@macworld.com / 415-243-3565
> 
> 



From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 18:59:37 2002
Subject: Re: SI
To: mikejim@atlantic.net (Mike James)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020710181941.03106a90@pop3.atlantic.net> from "Mike James" at Jul 10, 2002 06:22:44 PM
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That's exactly right.  Every few months I swear off ESPN in favor of
getting all my sports from SI.  After this latest round of MLB buttkissing
I must do it again!

This road trip, though, I mailed in two subscription cards -- The Atlantic
and American Heritage.  Great mags both.


> 
> Interesting to read of your appreciation of Sports Illustrated.  Me too.
> 
> New Yorker and SI....is all I need.  And NewsBlues. Can't forget that...and 
> TVBarn, of course.
> 
> "You read about sports???" my highbrow friends ask.
> 
> "SI ain't bout sports, dude," I drawl. "It's about people. And the pictures 
> are purdy."
> 
> 



From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 19:01:11 2002
Subject: Re: National Geographic Channel
To: cbaker@WashingtonTimes.com (Chris Baker)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <8A9F99A890E6D411839100B0D020EFEFFC1168@exchange1.washingtontimes.com> from "Chris Baker" at Jul 10, 2002 11:41:59 AM
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totally slipped my mind!  next time fersher.

> 
> Hi Aaron.
> 
> I enjoyed your piece on the National Geographic Channel. If I had known you
> were going to be in Washington, I would have gladly bought you a beer. Let
> me know if ever you are out this way again. I'd love to pick your brain
> sometime.
> 
> Chris Baker
> Local media reporter
> The Washington Times
> 3600 New York Avenue NE
> Washington, D.C. 20002
> 202-636-3139
> Fax: 202-832-2167
> 
> 



From tvbarn Fri Jul 12 19:01:46 2002
Subject: Re: remote
To: TOMALHE@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:01:46 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <55.29f3356b.2a5dadbc@aol.com> from "TOMALHE@aol.com" at Jul 10, 2002 11:33:16 AM
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Enjoy.  I'm on vac too.

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> Delfin's on vacation, so I get to make the donuts myself. 
> Technically I think it's all done for the day, bloggered and yahoogrouped... 
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Delfin's on vacation, so I get to make the donuts myself. 
> <BR>Technically I think it's all done for the day, bloggered and yahoogrouped... </FONT></HTML>
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> 
> 



From tvbarn Thu Jul 18 19:31:21 2002
Subject: Re: Donahue review
To: benfritz@hotmail.com (Ben Fritz)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:31:21 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <F121cUzmyZBl1GDDF1b000195c2@hotmail.com> from "Ben Fritz" at Jul 18, 2002 06:58:24 PM
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I'll be arguing nearly the exact same thing in my Monday column -- poor
guy!


> 
> Aaron,
> 
> As a TV Barn fan, I thought you might be interested in my review of Donahue 
> on The American Prospect Online arguing that while the host still has his 
> skills, MSNBC has given him the exact wrong format for what he does best. I 
> hope you'll check it out and consider a link
> 
> http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2002/07/fritz-b-07-18.html
> 
> best,
> 
> ben
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the worldâs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. 
> http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> 



From tvbarn Thu Jul 18 19:42:10 2002
Subject: Re: Franchising
To: ecarlson@kc.rr.com (Ed Carlson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <000901c22e97$5eac8860$838e1a41@kc.rr.com> from "Ed Carlson" at Jul 18, 2002 03:11:58 PM
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Funny, wasn't it?  It was vintage TJ, too.  "We were all sort of wondering
what he was going to do today."


> 
> Thanks for telling me about the program.  I found it was very interesting.
> I also caught the second segment with your old pal Jackman reporting about
> the Moussaoui case in Washington.
> 
> Ed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Barnhart" <aaron@tvbarn.com>
> To: <ecarlson@kc.rr.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:50 AM
> Subject: Franchising
> 
> 
> > Today, NPR's "Talk of the Nation" will be devoted to the topic of
> > FRANCHISING ... that's today, Thursday, beginning at 1 p.m. on 89.3
> > FM, KCUR.
> 
> 



From tvbarn Sat Jul 20 05:51:10 2002
Subject: Reader Rep Note
To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 05:51:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1]
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> 
> CALLS FROM READERS JULY 13-19
> 
> FROM: LAJEAN KEENE, TRUDY HURLEY, JULIUS KARASH, DAVID EULITT, ADAM TEICHER,
> JULIE REHM
> 
> A-SECTION	
> 
> E-mailer complained we didn't run follow-up report he read in the NYT that
> the skull that was big front-page news last week was really an ape. National
> editors notified. He cancelled his subsciption over this and a Lee Judge
> cartoon poking fun at creationists.
> 
> Mike Busby called to express his concern that Shashank Bengali was too
> flippant in the first few paragraphs of his story on the move by the Roy
> Rogers Museum (7/16). The proper respect for a man who did a great deal for
> humanity was not shown.
> 
> Mary Creagan is extremely upset about our lack of coverage about allegations
> of misdeeds by Bush while he was on the board of Harken and Cheney while he
> was CEO of Halliburton. If this had been the Clintons, it would have been
> splashed all over for months and months on end. She is convinced, despite my
> best efforts, that we are a Republican-controlled paper.
> 
> Kathaleen Arthur left the following comment on the Voices line:
>    ``Regarding `New family gives new live, love to a girl whose closet was a
> prison' Page A-4, Thursday, July 18. The child's name is being withheld
> because authorities say she was also sexually abused. That's laudable. But
> then they go on to identify her adoptive parents in Van Zandt County and who
> her biological mother and step father are so I fail to see how that one
> plays out.''
> 
> Danny Costello, who voice mailed but left no phone number and said he did
> not want a call back, just wanted to vent. ``Your paper has dropped down to
> such dribble it's hardly worth reading,'' he says. The worst he says, was
> Thursday (7-18) on A-4 where there was a story about chocolate being a
> popular drink in 600 B.C. He pointed out that the same information can be
> found on a soy milk carton. ``When it gets to the point that you're
> plagiarizing milk cartons,`` he said, ``your reporters need to get off their
> tushes and do something.''
> 
> A man called complimenting Thursday's A-1 article on Alzheimer's. He said it
> went a step beyond the usual stories that focus only on drugs. The story
> resonated with him because his mother and grandparents have suffered
> Alzheimer's, and he and his siblings are very concerned about becoming
> third-generation patients. He wanted an e-mail address to get in touch with
> the author of the article. I advised him to contact the Associated Press Web
> site.
> 
> Caller Clarence Annett was critical of the Page 1 graphics that went with
> the story about air conditioning. He said The Star was guilty of using ``the
> typical Kansas City Star trick'' of getting misinformation from the
> Associated Press or other wire service and then not verifying it for
> accuracy. He said the explanation for why cities are hotter was ``horribly,
> horribly wrong.'' He also said the chart listing heat-related deaths in KC
> was wrong because 120 area residents died in the heat wave of 1980 alone. 
> 
> Two e-mailers from out of state, one from Florida and the other from
> California, wanted The Star to continue coverage on the grilled kitten.The
> Californian wanted to know how to make a contribution to the woman who saved
> the kitten.
>    More than a dozen more letters came from out of state via e-mail from
> people who were horrified, wanted us to keep the heat on the prosecutors
> office, wanted to give money to the women who saved the kitten or wanted to
> know how to contact the Clay County prosecutor. (Many, many local letters to
> the editor came in on this, too, often focusing on links between violent
> crime against humans and animal abuse.)
> 
> A Mrs. Sharp called Tuesday morning and said she wanted to talk to Summer
> Harlow about the tortured kitten article. I gave her Summer's number.
> 
> METRO
> 
> A woman who declined to give her name and number called Tuesday morning and
> said there was an error in a Saturday, July 12, story by John Shultz about a
> drug bust. She said the last graf of the story was wrong in stating that
> Jason L. Tuberville could face a sentence from 30 years to life in prison
> without parole and that Lynn E. Haynes faced a mandatory minimum sentence of
> 20 years in prison without parole. She said the reverse was true. I told her
> I would pass this on to Shultz and I gave her Shultz's name and phone
> number. I left Shultz a voice mail on this.
> 
> An e-mailer wanted to know why the story on the endorsements for Kansas
> attorney general didn't include a third candidate, Charles McAtee.
> 
> Marty Kraft left a voice mail saying he would like us (on our Web site and
> in print) to include a sample ballot highlighting lesser-known issues about
> three weeks before an election. That, he says, would give readers time to
> think about it and discuss it with other voters. He said he considers
> himself well-informed but is always surprised by a ballot issue on voting
> day. ``Voting is not done well here,'' he said. ``This is a piece of it you
> guys could make better, and I'd appreciate it if you would.'' I called him
> back and told him I would pass along his idea.
> 
> Elizabeth Schrader is concerned about the lack of reporting on the arrest of
> Kansas City Zoo director Mark Wourms. (?) Forwarded to Matt Campbell.
> 
> Christopher Whelchel wants us to more closely follow news of motorcycle
> crashes. The drivers of automobiles, he says, rarely get charged. Forwarded
> to Randy Smith.
> 
> Anne Pritchett is upset that a story about low-performing schools in
> Missouri mentioned schools by name, but the Kansas story on the same subject
> failed to do so. She wants a story about low-performing schools in Kansas
> that lists schools. Forwarded to O.J. Nelson.
> 
> A couple of inquiries from people about why we're not reporting which
> hospital Anthony Buhr (boy who died from abuse) was at when he had surgery.
> Why didn't the hospital report this abuse? Why are we protecting the
> hospital? Etc. (One was from a verbally abusive man.)
>    A few calls and letters came in from people disgusted about this abuse
> case, wanting us to keep covering it, etc.
> 
> E-mailer complained about B-2 headline: "Healing journey arrives"
> 
> EDITORIAL
> 
> Marty Bohannon submitted a sample column by Joseph Farah and wanted to know
> if we would be interested in picking it up. Forwarded to Miriam Pepper.<
> 
> Voice mail, 7:50 a.m. Tuesday, from man who did not give his name or number:
> ``Your editorial board should have declined to allow Judge's cartoon
> today,'' he said. ``When you start making fun of people's religion, you've
> gone way too far. I don't know who's responsible, the editorial board or
> Judge himself, if he can do as he pleases. He needs to be reprimanded for
> this. You don't make fun of such a thing and virtually put people down who
> have a religious belief. He probably is an atheist himself, but that's no
> excuse. This is not right, not at all.''
> 
> Wife of zoo director Mark Wourms wrote a letter to the editor complaining
> about how her husband and the zoo had been treated by the media. Sent,
> instead, to editors so they might contact her about her concerns.
> 
> STAR BOOKS
> 
> Lorraine Green wants permission to reproduce quilt patterns that The Star
> owns copyrights to. Forwarded to Doug Worgul.
> 
> SPORTS
> 
> Alan Christian of the World Umpires Association wanted a fax number to reach
> Mike Fannin. He looked for it on our Web site but couldn't find it.
> 
> Ruth Lance called Tuesday morning and said the Sports section erroneously
> reported a Royals-Rangers score on C1 and C4. She said the Royals won both
> games. I told her I would pass this on to Sports. I talked to Jennifer Davis
> in Sports. She said the confusion stems from the fact that ``Royals 8-6''
> and ``Rangers 6-4'' refers to the numbers of runs in the two games, not the
> final scores. I called Lance back and explained what the numbers meant.
> 
> More than a dozen e-mails like this came in thanking Jason Franchuk for some
> triathalon coverage: "Thanks for the fine coverage of the Shawnee-Mission
> Triathlon. As one of the few sports where Professionals compete side-by-side
> with what-a-be's from all ages, Triathlon event unique and very exciting.
> The KC Star's coverage of Karen was very motivational. Scott Bolen, Overland
> Park"
> 
> WEATHER
> 
> Man complained Tel Aviv was used instead of Jerusalem on our weather map.
> Call out to Weather Data to find out how they pick the cities. (Caller
> thinks it's anti-Semitism.) 
> 
> FEATURES
> 
> Voice mail message from Monday: Woman, who did not leave name or number,
> criticized ``The Week Ahead'' item by David Frese about Cher's concert
> scheduled for Tuesday at Kemper. ``If there's so much disinterest in the
> United States about Cher, why does she earn $20 million a year? This man was
> hateful and rude, and I guess a little bit jealous, because when he's 56,
> I'm guessing nobody's going to want to see him. Thank you very much,'' she
> said.
> 
> Voice mail message from Monday: Man named Mr. Powers (?) said an anniversary
> notice in Sunday's paper said ``55 ears'' when it should have said ``55
> years.'' He said he found this amusing. He did not say who the anniversary
> notice was for.
> 
> Larry Rizzo, natural history biologist with the Missouri Dept. of
> Conservation, was hot that in our FYI graphic-pages about what plants grow
> well in this area, we had recommended invasive and exotic plants that he and
> many others are working very hard to get people not to grow. (They take over
> and choke out native plants.) We published a letter to the editor from him,
> but he feels like we really messed up. We should have had one of the sources
> we used (Powell Gardens, county extension) review the finished page before
> printing. Any of them would have told us this was a big no-no, he said. He
> said he had heard from others in his field who are also upset. Suggested a
> follow-up story to FYI. (Heard a report on local NPR Friday a.m. about this
> very issue. Coincidence?)
> 
> E-mailer complained that in our page about tomatoes we had the wrong amount
> for how much ketchup, on average, Americans eat each year. Editor did some
> checking, and we're right, he's wrong. She will contact him and thank him
> for his effort (he "did the math" and guessed wrongly we were saying people
> averaged over 10 teaspoons of the stuff a day).
> 
> An e-mailer wanted to know the e-mail address for Lisa Liddane of the Orange
> County Register, the author of a yoga story on Monday. Tracked one down and
> forwarded it on.
> 
> Karen Koehler left a voice mail and Shirley Bates of Warrensburg called
> regarding the Shaking Your Family Tree column. They miss it. Koehler said
> it's a "hot subject" right now, and down at the library they can hardly keep
> up with the demand for information on genealogy. Left a message for Koehler
> and told Bates I would forward their complaints to the features editor.
> 
> Jon Dunn wanted the society editor to contact him regarding the proper
> starting time for Protestant weddings on Saturdays. Should it be 5 or 6?
> Forwarded to Ann Spivak.
> 
> Bill Oldham called to see if his former voice student (Trudy Hurley) could
> impress upon the powers that be to send a person with a musical theater
> background, or at least a musical background, to review musicals. He
> disagrees with Robert Eisele's review of "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown"
> at the American Heartland Theater. He feels that Eisele was too harsh and
> expecting Eugene O'Neil instead of a lighthearted musical. He urges us to
> keep in perspective that musicals should be reviewed with different
> expectations than plays. I suggested he write a letter to the editor. He
> did. (For the record, editor says Eisele's credentials are solid.)
> 
> John Dillingham called to congratulate Marli Murphy on her column about the
> Liberty Memorial that ran Sunday, July 14.
> 
> WEDDINGS
>  
> Shannon Chappell wanted information on placing a wedding announcement.
> Forwarded to Gaye Gardenhire.
> 
> OBITS:
> 
> Woman called wanting obits for a couple who had died last year (on different
> dates). I looked on Star library but could not find them. She wanted to know
> how far back the obit archives went on the website. I referred her to Beckie
> Seaman.
> 
> ADVERTISING
> 
> Voice mail from Monday: Chuck Vogt said he had signed up for the ``Meet Your
> Match'' singles introduction service in the Friday Preview section. He wants
> to drop the service. But he said when he calls the customer service number,
> he can't get through to a real person and instead he gets automatically
> renewed for another 90 days. It also bothers him that the number is long
> distance.<
>    ``All I want to do is get off the thing,'' he said.<
>    I called Vogt back and discussed his situation with him. I called the
> Meet Your Match customer service number. I was put on hold for about 5
> minutes before a customer service rep named Bill came on. Bill said he
> thought Vogt had been calling the wrong number. He said the customer service
> folk would have no problem discontinuing the service for Vogt. I called Vogt
> back again and gave him the toll-free number.
> 
> CIRCULATION
> 
> Melanie Burton, 7408 NW 77th Terr, KCMO 64152, lost her bill and wants to
> know how much she owes. Forwarded to subscriptions.
> 
> Caller moving from Warrensburg to Harrisonville wanted to move her
> subscription. Transferred to circulation.
> 
> Caller wanted to stop the paper for vacation. Transferred to circulation.
> 
> Numerous other requests for info/transfer related to delivery and billing
> issues.
> 
> TIPS/MISC/STARINFO
> 
> Woman complained about our use of the word anniversary to refer to things
> like "nine-month anniversary." Said, by definition, it refers to an annual
> date. Also "one-year anniversary" is redundant.
> 
> Marie Curry said she wanted to send the paper a fax about political yard
> signs in Johnson County. I recommended that she fax this to reporter Finn
> Bullers in the JoCo bureau and gave her the JoCo fax number. I called Finn
> and told him to expect the fax. 
> 
> A man called saying he'd heard gunshots in his Lenexa neighborhood about 4
> a.m. Friday. He wanted to know if we had any information about this. I
> referred him the the Joco bureau.
> 
> A Lawrence woman called and wanted to know the date a review of the Toyota
> Corolla was published. I gave her the date and transferred her to get a
> copy.
> 
> An e-mailer was having trouble finding a 1998 obit on the Web site. I called
> Derek Donovan, who found it. I forwarded the e-mail.
> 
> Vanessa Morrison said she wanted copies of the Newcomer's Guide. I gave her
> the number for StarInfo.
> 
> FROM LAST WEEK
> 
> The NYT crossword is indeed a little different. (A couple of readers
> noticed.) We're getting it electronically now. Maybe it looks better.
> 
> 
> 
> Lajean Keene
> Letters Editor
> 816-234-4474
> 
> 



From tvbarn Wed Jul 31 06:24:28 2002
Subject: item #1370106274
To: fabiano_miami@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1]
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Hi Fabiano.  I intend to pay by American Express.  I hope you can get this
item shipped out today as I am going on vacation a week from Friday and
would like to have a little time to try it out!

As you can see I am brand-new to the eBay process but old hat to the
Internet.  Will await payment info from you.

--
TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com



From tvbarn Fri Aug  2 07:24:37 2002
Subject: Re: TVBARN.COM Feedback
To: Davidkronke@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:24:37 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <114.14ffcd7a.2a7bb17c@aol.com> from "Davidkronke@aol.com" at Aug 02, 2002 05:57:16 AM
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What a kind letter!  You and I are in the same soup, David, which is one
reason I created TV Barn in 1999.  I wanted to give readers unobstructed
access to my stuff, and the Web site (we're talking pre-RealShitties
here) simply didn't allow for that.  Of course, since K-r's magical touch,
things have only gotten worse.  So I understand.

You may forward the remainder of this letter to your HTML team and if they
have any questions they can contact me directly.

The TV Barn sidebar is created by a robot about two dozen times a day.  
This robot, which I call the TV Barn Headline Picker, has been through
numerous iterations.  I've made it simple yet flexible.  When the
headlines are where they are supposed to be, the picker finds them 100% of
the time.

What's crucial, then, is consistency.  Good code helps, but the picker can
even overcome that (as it does, for instance, on the wretched Sun-Times
site).  Today, f'rinstance, the TV portion of your site leads with a story
by you.  If you or the webmasters could assure me that a story with your
byline would ALWAYS lead that page, then I would direct the picker to
simply look for the first instance of 

<a href="/tv/articles/([^>]*)>  

and link to it.  (You can ignore the symbols at the end, part of a search
language called grep.  Basically I'm saying, "look for the first <a href>
that begins with /tv/articles/".

An even better solution, however, would be to work a unique identifier for
your stories into the URL:

<a href="/tv/articles/0802/01/kronke01.asp">

for instance.  Then it wouldn't matter where it appeared on the page; the
picker would look for the first <a href> with your ID in it and link to
that.  

If you cannot guarantee that a story with your byline will lead the TV
page at all times, then this is your only option.

Let me know if I can advise further.  When you've made the change, I can
get you linked (once I find the time) in minutes.

> 
> Hi,
> 
> My paper, the Los Angeles Daily News, is doing what it can in its very 
> touching if sometimes misguided way to obtain a link from your site. 
> 
> It is: 
> 
> http://u.dailynews.com/tv/fallindex.asp
> 
> Please note that this is sort of a vague page that connects some of my 
> reviews (in this most recent case, to certain press conferences conducted 
> during TV Press Tour). But, as TV critic and TV essayist and TV reporter, I 
> cover reviews and trend pieces and everything else, and the site hasn't quite 
> figured that out yet.
> 
> Nonetheless, my editors would like to hear what they need to do to obtain a 
> link to their site from your site. Just let us know if what we've thusfar 
> done is enough, or what more would be necessary. 
> 
> Thank you,
> David Kronke
> 
> 



From tvbarn Fri Aug  2 07:31:14 2002
Subject: ichousedesigns is loopy
To: ev@pyra.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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Ev, you know that page you set up to explain transfer errors?  I'm having
them, so I tried the link you list here:

(Use this form to find the IP address.) 

It goes to a place called icehousedesigns that promptly puts the user into
an endless loop of "This page has now moved" and then a few seconds later,
redepositing you at the search page without giving you the search
results!!

I tried another site but all it gave me were my site's name servers, which
I don't think was the point.



From tvbarn Fri Aug  2 07:51:49 2002
Subject: Re: por favor
To: TOMALHE@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:51:49 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <120.13d9e5ec.2a7bf280@aol.com> from "TOMALHE@aol.com" at Aug 02, 2002 10:34:40 AM
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Nope, sorry, but it wasn't you that moved that, it was me.  And now my
Aaron Brown item has screwed up everything.  fix to come momentarily.

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> >If you think of it, go to the TV Barn blog and try hitting the goddam 
> >publish button.  The thing is just spinning its wheels and I'm going 
> >to bed.
> 
> Done... You know ,watching Showtime's wretched Women Vs. Men almost made The 
> Rerun Show look good by comparison... 
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> <BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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From tvbarn Fri Aug  2 07:57:47 2002
Subject: Re: por favor
To: TOMALHE@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:57:47 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <120.13d9e5ec.2a7bf280@aol.com> from "TOMALHE@aol.com" at Aug 02, 2002 10:34:40 AM
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fixed.  (whew)

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> >If you think of it, go to the TV Barn blog and try hitting the goddam 
> >publish button.  The thing is just spinning its wheels and I'm going 
> >to bed.
> 
> Done... You know ,watching Showtime's wretched Women Vs. Men almost made The 
> Rerun Show look good by comparison... 
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> <BR>&gt;to bed.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
> <BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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From tvbarn Mon Aug 12 12:15:25 2002
Subject: Re: Wacky Link in Other Heds Blog
To: MJeffries@KRW.com (Jeffries, Mark)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:15:25 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <47EC15D4F5CEEC419EE573D9731D39D2598119@exchange.krw.com> from "Jeffries, Mark" at Aug 09, 2002 05:39:12 PM
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Got in after all and zapped it.

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> When I clicked on the hed that Tom had added about Juliet Mills, which I
> guess was supposed to link to MSNBC, instead I got what looks like a pop-ad
> ad and my browser window got knocked out of whack and reduced.  When I click
> to maximize the window, it isn't properly centered and I can't get it back
> right.  I've rebooted twice and powered off and the browser is still not
> properly centered.  Could you check on this link and see what's going on?
> Thanks.
> 
> Mark Jeffries
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> rebooted twice and powered off and the browser is still not properly =
> centered.&nbsp; Could you check on this link and see what's going =
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From tvbarn Tue Aug 13 17:34:27 2002
Subject: TVBARN.COM Feedback (fwd)
To: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:34:27 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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Forwarded message:
> From tvbarn@pine.he.net  Tue Aug 13 11:42:20 2002
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:42:20 -0700
> Message-Id: <200208131842.LAA18811@pine.he.net>
> To: aaron@tvbarn.com
> From: afeldman2@bloomberg.net (Andrew)
> Subject: TVBARN.COM Feedback
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.1 required=5.0 tests=BUGGY_CGI version=2.20
> X-Spam-Level: ****
> 
> Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> Andrew (afeldman2@bloomberg.net) on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 11:42:20
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> message: To Thomas re Ben Stein:
> 
> This new book deal was in today's Publishers Lunch (www.publisherslunch.com) newsletter:
> 
> Lawyer, economist, actor and game-show host Ben Stein and Phil
> DeMuth's YES, YOU CAN TIME THE MARKET!, presenting hard data,
> metrics and investment advice in these turbulent economic times, to
> Matthew Holt at Wiley, in a good deal, by Lois Wallace.
> mholt@wiley.com
> 
> So Ben won't have to dust off the resume quite yet!
> 
> - Andrew
> 
> P.S. While the newsletter isn't available online (only via e-mail), the editor Michael Cader can confirm this news item.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 



From tvbarn Tue Aug 13 17:37:38 2002
Subject: Re: TV Book
To: JFuentes@cbs.com (Fuentes, Johanna)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:37:38 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <FBE9A36DE5C6D41190F7000255580CE501859843@nycbrdc00usax05.cbs.com> from "Fuentes, Johanna" at Aug 12, 2002 09:56:01 PM
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Hi Johanna.  His name is Ted Massing and he's reachable at
tmassing@kcstar.com ... be warned, however, that he is on the advertising
side and doesn't use much editorial copy -- and I have no idea if he
listens to publicist pitches.

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> Hey there. 
> 
> Quick question. Do you guys have a TV Book for your Sunday edition and
> if so, who edits it? If you can please let me know when you have a
> second I would really appreciate it.   Thanks! 
> 
> BM__MailAutoSig______________________________
> 
>  
> 
> Johanna Fuentes
> 
> Senior Publicist
> 
> CBS Entertainment
> 
> 51 West 52nd Street
> 
> New York, NY 10019
> 
> t: 212.975.4757
> 
> f:212.975.8716
> 
> p: 1-888-PAGE-VIA
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> e-mail:  <mailto:jfuentes@cbs.com> jfuentes@cbs.com 
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> <P ALIGN=3DLEFT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Georgia">Hey there. </FONT></P>
> 
> <P ALIGN=3DLEFT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Georgia">Quick question. Do you =
> guys have a TV Book for your Sunday edition and if so, who edits =
> it?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Georgia"> If you can =
> please l</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Georgia">et me know</FONT><FONT =
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> would really appreciate it.&nbsp;</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
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From tvbarn Tue Aug 13 17:38:22 2002
Subject: Re: fyi
To: TOMALHE@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:38:22 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <4c.fd77b04.2a89aad2@aol.com> from "TOMALHE@aol.com" at Aug 12, 2002 08:20:34 PM
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I deleted eight emails from my "Phone" inbox yesterday ... all from
tomalhe or someone pretending to be.

> 
> > >2. I've disabled the feature that lets you email to my
> > >cell phone.  It's impossible to read those emails
> > >since I switched phones.
> > 
> I think I've (knowingly) only done that once... the last being during the 
> greenfield cancellation.
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>&gt;1. That today show transcript link you tried went to a
> <BR>&gt;wicked pop-up sequence. &nbsp;Always test-drive your links.
> <BR>
> <BR>Gotcha.
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt;2. I've disabled the feature that lets you email to my
> <BR>&gt;cell phone. &nbsp;It's impossible to read those emails
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From tvbarn Tue Aug 13 17:38:55 2002
Subject: thanks
To: trow@slip.net
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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Vacation notice was perfect!


From tvbarn Tue Aug 13 17:53:24 2002
Subject: Re: Feedback Reminder
To: fabiano_miami@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:53:24 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <200208131922.MAA12035@whitestar.auctionwatch.com> from "fabiano_miami@hotmail.com" at Aug 13, 2002 12:22:12 PM
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On vacation with it right now.  Will feedback upon return!

> 
> Dear tvbarn,
> 
> I hope you received the Olympus C-2100 2.1MP NiMH 64MB USA Kit in the condition as promised.  Please let me know if you have any problems.  I thank you very much for your business.  Please take a moment to send feedback to eBay.  I value your comments and I hope to see you at more of my auctions in the future.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Fabiano Nunes
> 
> 



From tvbarn Wed Aug 14 11:49:15 2002
Subject: Re: Happy Anniversary to me...
To: TOMALHE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:15 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <1a8.6b93f56.2a8bf3ee@aol.com> from "TOMALHE@aol.com" at Aug 14, 2002 01:57:02 PM
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Congratulations!

But your post was so cryptic that no one will get it.  I didn't even get
it till I read this e-mail.

So pardon me if I edit it.

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> Remote Patrol
> What's gnus to you in TV Land today? Self- help from an associate of Oprah, 
> professional football -- whether Hank Williams Jr is ready for it or not, and 
> several things you may or may not want to swallow. (See Gnus to you)...
> Tom Heald 8/13/01; 5:55:51 AM
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From tvbarn Wed Aug 14 11:50:21 2002
Subject: USO in HDTV on CBS
To: tvbarn2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:50:21 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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CBS SPORTS' BROADCAST OF THE 2002 U.S. OPEN TENNIS
TOURNAMENT TO BE SIMULCAST IN HDTV

High Definition Simulcast Will Include All Six Days Of Coverage

NEW YORK, August 14 - CBS Sports' entire live broadcast of the 2002 U.S.
Open Tennis Championships -- Saturday, Aug. 31 through Sunday, September 8
-- will be simulcast in High Definition Television, the Network announced
today.  While this marks the fourth consecutive year that CBS has
simulcast its coverage of the U.S. Open in HDTV, this is the first year
the Network will expand its HDTV broadcasts to all six days of tournament
coverage. In addition, this is the first year that the action on the Louis
Armstrong Stadium's Court 2 will be added to the traditional coverage of
Center Court in Arthur Ashe Stadium. Once again, a highlight of the
broadcast will be the prime time women's final on Saturday evening,
September 7.



From tvbarn Wed Aug 14 11:51:23 2002
Subject: RFK (fwd)
To: cpowers@kcstar.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1]
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Info below on artwork in case Butler reviews RFK.

Forwarded message:
> From JSolberg@fxnetworks.com  Wed Aug 14 06:54:16 2002
> Message-ID: <56EFA474D7F0D411BCA200B0D0788ED81FE66D@ny-mail01.foxsports.net>
> From: John Solberg <JSolberg@fxnetworks.com>
> To: "'aaron@tvbarn.com'" <aaron@tvbarn.com>
> Subject: RFK
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 06:51:32 -0700
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> 	charset="iso-8859-1"
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS version=2.20
> X-Spam-Level: *
> 
> Aaron:
> 
> Hope all is well and that your having a great summer. Just wanted to follow
> up to make sure you received the materials on "RFK." Please let me know if
> you need anything. Also, photos can now be downloaded by going to
> www.fxnetworks.com/press
> 
> Many thanks,
> John
> 
> 



From tvbarn Wed Aug 14 12:12:29 2002
Subject: Amazon Light
To: diane@tvbarn.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:12:29 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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Believe it or not, someone has given Amazon.com a plain jane Google-styled
interface:

http://www.kokogiak.com/amazon/



From tvbarn Wed Aug 14 12:18:06 2002
Subject: Cheryl Kerns McDonald named WDAF-TV GM
To: tvbarn2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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[as we predicted last week...AB]

FOX TELEVISION STATIONS, INC.
A Unit of Fox Television

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact:  Ivey Van Allen  310-369-3293


CHERYL KERNS McDONALD NAMED VICE PRESIDENT AND
GENERAL MANAGER OF WDAF FOX 4 KANSAS CITY


August 13, 2002, Kansas City, MO - Cheryl Kerns McDonald has been named
Vice Pre sident and General Manager of Fox owned-and-operated WDAF FOX 4
Kansas City.  Th e announcement was made today by Mitchell Stern, Chairman
and Chief Executive Of ficer, Fox Television Stations, Inc.

In her new duties, Ms. McDonald will be responsible for overseeing all
business and administrative duties at the Kansas City station.

Ms. McDonald has served as General Sales Manager at WDAF since 1988 and
was name d a Vice President in 1992.

Ms. McDonald began her sales career at WTAJ/CBS in Altoona, Pa. where she
worked in retail planning and sales and as an Account Executive. She later
worked at W TTG and WDCA (both independent stations at the time) in
Washington D.C. for four years.  She served as Local Sales Manager at WDCA
and was transferred by Taft B roadcasting to WDAF in Kansas City where she
worked in the same capacity before being promoted to General Sales Manager
in January 1988.  In November 1988, she moved to Dallas and served as
General Manager of the Dallas/Forth Worth Cable In terconnect before
returning to WDAF in 1990 as General Sales Manager.

"Cheryl's extensive experience and continuing success at WDAF make her the
perfect candidate to head our Kansas City station," stated Mr. Stern.  
"We look forward to her leadership skills and expertise in successfully
overseeing WDAF's long -term goals."

One of the nation's largest owned-and-operated network broadcast groups,
Fox Television Stations, Inc. consists of 34 stations in 26 markets
covering nearly 45% of U.S. television homes. This includes duopolies in
New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, Washington DC, Houston, Minneapolis,
Phoenix and Orlando.

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From tvbarn Wed Aug 14 12:29:03 2002
Subject: from vacationland
To: editor@newsblues.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:29:03 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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Sorry I wasn't more timely getting the Cheryl item up there on TV
Barn.  On the other hand, you'da have had more background info had you
read my story last week on Mike McDonald's departure from WDAF-TV.


From tvbarn Wed Aug 14 16:41:04 2002
Subject: Re: FW: '24' Marathon Labor Day on FX
To: cpowers@kcstar.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <307C2AA688A2D411830100805F6515691F6657@kcsxch01.kcstar.com> from "cpowers@kcstar.com" at Aug 14, 2002 05:31:54 PM
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I'll bet I am too (got it already, but thanks).

> I'll bet you're gonna make this a TV col item.....C.
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	FoxPublicityExpress[SMTP:FoxPublicityExpress@fox.com]
> > Sent: 	Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:50PM
> > Subject: 	'24' Marathon Labor Day on FX
> >=20
> >  <<FX 24 Labor Day Marathon.doc>>=20
> > For immediate release
> >=20
> >=20
> > RE-LIVE THE LONGEST DAY OF JACK BAUER'S LIFE
> >=20
> > FX Presents Unprecedented 24-Hour Labor Day Marathon of FOX's EMMY
> > Nominated Series
> >=20
> > "24"
> >=20
> > Beginning at Midnight on Sunday, September 1 and Ending at Midnight =
> on
> > Labor Day=20
> >=20
> > =
> ************************************************************************=
> **
> > *****************************************************
> > Fox Home Entertainment To Release Six-Disc Collector's Edition DVD of =
> "24"
> > on September 17
> >=20
> > FOX Sets Clock for Second Season of  "24" on Tuesday, October 29 at =
> 9:00
> > PM ET/PT
> > =
> ************************************************************************=
> **
> > ******************************************************
> >=20
> > Los Angeles, August 14, 2002 - With its upcoming release on DVD and
> > second-season premiere fast approaching, FX will televise an =
> unprecedented
> > 24-hour Labor Day marathon of FOX's universally acclaimed drama =
> series 24,
> > which received 10 Emmy Award=AE nominations including nods for =
> Outstanding
> > Drama Series, Lead Actor, Directing and Writing.
> >=20
> > FX presents the entire first season unedited, airing 24 episodes for =
> 24
> > consecutive hours beginning at midnight on Sunday, September 1 and =
> ending
> > at midnight Labor Day, September 2.
> >=20
> > "Only a show with the unique format of 24 could offer such an =
> exciting
> > programming event," said FX Networks President and CEO Peter Liguori. =
> "FX
> > and Fox have received thousands of calls requesting a 24 marathon and =
> I'm
> > thrilled we could make it happen."=20
> >=20
> > Never before has the entire first season of a network series been run =
> in
> > marathon format in one single day so soon after the completion of its
> > first season broadcast run.
> >=20
> > "This marathon is a great example of synergy, which is only a theory =
> until
> > you see it implemented effectively to increase ratings and revenues.  =
> FX
> > is providing an exceptional platform to bring new viewers to 24, a =
> program
> > created by Twentieth Century Fox Television for the FOX network," =
> said
> > Sandy Grushow, Chairman, Fox Television Entertainment Group.  He =
> added,
> > "It is a successful venture because it is being implemented in the =
> best
> > interest of the program.  And, ultimately, what's good for 24 is good =
> for
> > FX, the studio, the network, affiliates, home entertainment and the
> > corporation as a whole."
> >=20
> > FOX debuts season two of 24 on Tuesday, October 29 at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT =
> with
> > a special commercial-free episode. The Ford Division of the Ford =
> Motor
> > Company will be the presenting sponsor of this extraordinary event. =
> Fox
> > Home Entertainment will release the six-disc Collector's Edition DVD =
> of
> > the entire first season of 24 on September 17. The DVD includes an
> > exclusive never-before-seen alternate ending with optional commentary =
> and
> > also features an introduction to season one by series star Kiefer
> > Sutherland and a preview of season two.=20
> >=20
> > "An event like the FX marathon for 24 is an excellent way to broaden =
> the
> > fan universe for the show and also provide a sampling opportunity for =
> the
> > DVD coming just two weeks later," noted Patricia Wyatt, President of
> > Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. "The DVD release will allow =
> new
> > fans and those returning to relive the most entertaining 24 hours of =
> the
> > last year any time they want."=20
> >=20
> > -more-
> >=20
> > FX Presents
> > "24" Labor Day Marathon
> > Page 2
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > 24 is a precedent-setting television series starring Kiefer =
> Sutherland and
> > produced by Joel Surnow, Robert Cochran, Howard Gordon, Brian Grazer =
> and
> > Tony Krantz for 20th Century Fox Television.
> >=20
> > In addition to its 10 EMMY nominations, series star Sutherland =
> received
> > the prestigious Golden Globe Award=AE for Lead Actor in a Drama =
> Series, and
> > 24 received the Television Critics Association awards for Outstanding =
> New
> > Program of the Year and Program of the Year at the 18th annual =
> ceremony
> > held last month in Pasadena.
> >=20
> > In 24, the entire season takes place in one day, with each of the 24
> > episodes covering one hour, told in real time. Making use of its =
> unique
> > real-time element, 24 will follow several key characters as they live
> > through a day that none of them will ever forget.  24 is a production =
> of
> > 20th Century Fox Television and Imagine Television. The pilot was =
> written
> > by Robert Cochran and Joel Surnow and directed by Stephen Hopkins.
> >=20
> > FX, the flagship general entertainment basic cable network from Fox, =
> is
> > geared toward viewers with a young, savvy mindset. The diverse =
> schedule
> > includes a growing roster of distinctive original series such as the
> > critically acclaimed series "THE SHIELD," which received three Emmy
> > Nominations including Outstanding Lead Actor nomination for the =
> series'
> > star Michael Chiklis. FX also features acquired theatrical releases =
> every
> > night in primetime from an established film library with box-office =
> hits
> > from 20th Century Fox and other major studios; acquired hits series; =
> and
> > marquee sports such as NASCAR. Launched in June of 1994, FX is now =
> seen in
> > more than 78 million homes. For more information about FX, visit our =
> web
> > site at www.FXnetworks.com.
> >=20
> > ###
> >=20
> >=20
> > Contact:	John Solberg  FX	310-789-4689	=09
> > Jonathan Hogan  FOX	310-369-4465
> > Shari Rosenblum  Fox Home Entertainment 310-369-8250
> > 			=09
> > 					=09
> > 		Roslyn Bibby
> > 		FX
> > 		310-789-4640
> >=20
> > 	=09
> > NOTE: Please see the episode descriptions on the attached pages. For
> > photos, please go to foxflash.com or call the FOX photo publicity
> > department.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -more-
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > FX Presents
> > "24" Labor Day Marathon
> > Page 3
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > EPISODE DESCRIPTIONS
> >=20
> > Midnight
> > Episode one of 24 begins at midnight, on the day of the California
> > Presidential Primary. JACK BAUER (Sutherland) is finishing a game of =
> chess
> > with his daughter, KIMBERLY (Elisha Cuthbert).  At fifteen, Kimberly =
> has
> > learned other games as well -- for example, blaming her mother, TERI
> > (Leslie Hope), for the marital struggles that caused Jack to move out =
> of
> > the house temporarily (he has only recently moved back home).  =
> Shortly
> > after the chess game ends, Kimberly sneaks out of the house.  No =
> sooner
> > have Jack and Teri found this out when the phone rings; Jack, who =
> heads up
> > the government's Counter Terrorist Unit, must report to work =
> immediately.
> > At the office, Jack learns that an assassination attempt will be made =
> that
> > day on Presidential candidate DAVID PALMER (Dennis Haysbert), a U.S.
> > Senator and the first African-American with a realistic chance at the
> > White House.  Furthermore, it appears that a rogue element inside the
> > Agency may be in on the hit.
> >=20
> > 1:00 AM
> > Jack suddenly has three emergencies to handle following the explosion =
> of
> > the 747 over the Mojave Desert.  As he tries to figure out the reason =
> for
> > the catastrophe, he continues to search for a potential assassin to =
> Sen.
> > David Palmer and for the whereabouts of his daughter.  Meanwhile, =
> Palmer
> > finds that another threat to his campaign is about to surface in the
> > episode "1:00 AM-2:00 AM."
> >=20
> > 2:00 AM
> > Kimberly and Janet (guest star Jacqui Maxwell) find themselves in =
> greater
> > danger and look for an escape route.  In her search for Kimberly, =
> Teri has
> > found a helper in Alan York (guest star Richard Burgi), Janet's =
> father.
> > Meanwhile, Palmer sneaks out of the hotel to have a secret meeting
> > regarding disturbing news that a reporter is about to break, and Jack
> > comes into possession of a key card that could help lead him to the
> > terrorist organization in the episode "2:00 AM-3:00 AM."
> >=20
> > 3:00 AM
> > Jack's suspicion that someone at CTU may be involved in the =
> assassination
> > of David Palmer causes friction with one of his closest supporters.
> > Meanwhile, Kimberly and Janet's struggle for freedom takes a tragic =
> turn
> > and Palmer goes against the advice of his security team to move ahead =
> with
> > an appearance, with Primary Day only hours away in the episode "3:00
> > AM-4:00 AM."
> >=20
> > 4:00 AM
> > Following the shootout, Jack goes to the police station to try and =
> get key
> > information from Greg Penticoff.  Meanwhile, Kimberly gets handed =
> over to
> > Gaines, and Palmer arranges a meeting with reporter Maureen Kingsley =
> in
> > the episode "4:00 AM-5:00 AM."
> >=20
> > 5:00 AM
> > Jack's wall separating his work and family comes down as information
> > points to Kimberly being kidnapped.  Also, Palmer discovers his =
> family has
> > been protecting him from a secret that could hurt his campaign; =
> Gaines
> > shows his extreme displeasure with Dan and Rick; and Janet struggles =
> to
> > stay alive as Alan and Teri console each other at the hospital in the
> > episode "5:00-6:00 AM."
> >=20
> > 6:00 AM
> > Jack, with his every move seen and heard by Gaines, returns to CTU =
> doing
> > what needs to be done to keep his wife and daughter alive.  =
> Meanwhile,
> > Palmer tries to convince his son that they need to tell "their side" =
> of
> > the family tragedy, and, at the compound, Rick sticks up for Kimberly =
> in
> > the episode "6:00-7:00 AM."
> > =20
> >=20
> > -more-
> > FX Presents
> > "24" Labor Day Marathon
> > Page 4
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > 7:00 AM
> > As the California primary officially begins, Sen. Palmer wants to =
> re-write
> > his campaign speech so that the truth of their family tragedy can be
> > revealed.  At the same time, Jack, who is trying to find the assassin =
> and
> > keep his wife & daughter alive, is still being controlled by Gaines =
> in the
> > "7:00-8:00 AM" episode.
> >=20
> > 8:00 AM
> > Jack efforts to save Sen. Palmer backfire, turning Jack into the =
> primary
> > suspect.  He must now defend himself or face being turned over to the =
> FBI
> > for questioning.  Meanwhile, Teri and Kimberly band together at the
> > compound to help each other cope with their hostage situation in the
> > "8:00-9:00 AM" episode.
> >=20
> > 9:00 AM
> > Jack, now a wanted man, evades police while working with CTU to find =
> Teri
> > and Kimberly.   Also, Tony and Nina track down information about =
> Gaines,
> > as a new Director of CTU (guest star Tamara Tunie) takes the helm; =
> and
> > Senator Palmer's life remains in danger, as those around him try to
> > protect him in the "9:00-10:00 AM" episode
> >=20
> >=20
> > 10:00 AM
> > Jack goes on the offensive and takes a colleague of Gaines for a wild =
> ride
> > in a limousine to find clues to his wife and daughter's whereabouts.
> > Meanwhile, Rick gets punished for protecting Teri and Kimberly, and  =
> Sen.
> > Palmer learns of a possible conspiracy within his campaign in the
> > "10:00-11:00 AM" episode.
> >=20
> > 11:00 AM
> > Jack begins closing in on where Teri and Kimberly are being held =
> hostage.
> > Meanwhile, Teri and Kimberly create a shock of their own as things =
> get
> > violent at the compound.  Also, Sen. Palmer's worst fears are =
> realized
> > when he uncovers just how far his campaign backers are willing to go =
> to
> > protect him in the "11:00 AM-NOON" episode.
> >=20
> > Noon
> > Gaines' boss finally loses patience with Gaines' ineffective pursuit =
> of
> > Jack, as Jack turns the tables.  Also, Nina and Tony learn the plot =
> to
> > assassinate Sen. Palmer goes deeper than they had realized, while =
> Sen.
> > Palmer gets surprising news from Maureen Kingsley in the "NOON-1:00 =
> PM"
> > episode.
> >=20
> > 1:00 PM
> > The CTU discovers that a backup plan is underway to assassinate Sen.
> > Palmer.  There are more foreign shooters hired to kill him and they =
> may
> > already be in the country.  Meanwhile, Palmer must deal with the fact =
> that
> > some people financing his campaign are blackmailing him in the =
> "1:00-2:00
> > PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 2:00 PM
> > Sen. Palmer insists on speaking to Jack face to face despite CTU
> > bureaucratic red tape.  Meanwhile, Teri and Kimberly get taken to a =
> safe
> > house guarded by CTU agents in the "2:00-3:00 PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 3:00 PM
> > Jack's hunt for the people behind the plot to kill Sen. Palmer leads =
> him
> > to an important phone call with an agent in New Orleans.  Meanwhile, =
> Nina
> > seeks information from Teri at the safe house about what really =
> happened
> > at the compound in the "3:00-4:00 PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 4:00 PM
> > Jack brings in someone from Sen. Palmer's staff to help him arrest =
> one of
> > the shooters still out to kill Palmer.  Meanwhile, Keith does some of =
> his
> > own investigative work to find out what really happened in the death =
> of
> > Dr. Ferragamo in the "4:00-5:00 PM" episode.
> >=20
> > -more-
> > FX Presents
> > "24" Labor Day Marathon
> > Page 5
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > 5:00 PM
> > While Jack tries to turn up the heat on the remaining assassins, he =
> is
> > forced to work with an overzealous CTU agent.  Meanwhile, Sen. Palmer
> > considers what to do with the key evidence obtained by Keith relating =
> to
> > Dr. Ferragamo's murder in the "5:00-6:00 PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 6:00 PM
> > Following the murder of the agent in New Orleans, Jack finds out =
> about a
> > location in Saugus that could hold the key to the entire =
> assassination and
> > kidnapping plot.  Meanwhile, Kim finds her way back to Rick, who is =
> in
> > trouble of his own with Dan's hot-tempered older brother in the =
> "6:00-7:00
> > PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 7:00 PM
> > Dennis Hopper, who joins the series for the last five episodes this
> > season, debuts as a Balkan war criminal who blames Jack for the death =
> of
> > his loved ones.  His attempt at revenge is the motive behind the
> > conspiracy.  Also, Lou Diamond Phillips guest stars as Mark DeSalvo, =
> who
> > is in charge of a Class Three Detention prison facility that Jack =
> must
> > gain access to in the "7:00-8:00 PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 8:00 PM
> > Jack is at the mercy of the criminal masterminds he has been working =
> all
> > day to capture, while Kim must prove her innocence after she is =
> mistakenly
> > swept up in a police drug sting in the "8:00-9:00 PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 9:00 PM
> > Victor and Andre Drazen use Jack as trade bait to get Alexis Drazen =
> back.
> > Meanwhile, Kimberly is again put in harm's way in the "9:00-10:00 PM"
> > episode.
> >=20
> > 10:00 PM
> > "The mole" within the CTU is revealed.  Also, the Drazens use =
> Kimberly to
> > make Jack do their bidding in the "10:00-11:00 PM" episode.
> >=20
> > 11:00 PM
> > The stay-on-the-edge-of-your-seat season finale finds Jack in a =
> showdown
> > with the Drazens, while "the mole" causes more damage in the "11:00
> > PM-12:00 AM" episode.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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From tvbarn Tue Sep  3 11:56:34 2002
Subject: Photo req
To: roc@globalvision.org
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
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Rory, as we just discussed on the phone, I am looking for hi-res JPG
publicity stills of THE MAKING OF WE ARE FAMILY for a roundup of 9/11
related programming I'm writing for my paper and the wire.  Need the
photos e-mailed today to this address:

kcpics@kcstar.com

and if the sender could cc me (aaron@tvbarn.com), I'd appreciate
it.  Thanks!



From tvbarn Wed Sep  4 10:11:51 2002
Subject: Re: KCUR's big brag package
To: cahillp@umkc.edu (Cahill, Patricia D.)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:11:51 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <AB49967E291AA84C874507128F9DE87C0161D9CC@KC-MAIL1.kc.umkc.edu> from "Cahill, Patricia D." at Sep 04, 2002 10:52:56 AM
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Terrif -- thanks.  We made the fixit in the print edition and I will try
to ensure the Web version has it too.

> 
> if " declined some budget outlays" means we didn't accept money from =
> UMKC, it is not exactly accurate.
> =20
> If you wrote something like ..."that it recently returned over 50 =
> percent of its cash support from the University of Missouri-Kansas City, =
> giving back money to  the cash-strapped school that holds KCUR's =
> license." that would be more accurate.
> 
> Call me if this doesn't work for you.
> Patty
> 235-2886
> > ----------
> > From: 	Aaron Barnhart
> > Sent: 	3, September 2002 6:03 PM
> > To: 	Cahill, Patricia D.
> > Subject: 	Re: KCUR's big brag package
> >=20
> > Is this a fair statement?  I want to be careful.....
> >=20
> >   KCUR has had such a strong year, pledgewise, that it recently=20
> > declined some budget outlays from the University of Missouri-Kansas=20
> > City, essentially giving back money to the cash-strapped school that=20
> > owns the station.
> >=20
> > --=20
> > TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com
> >=20
> >=20
> 
> 



From tvbarn Wed Sep  4 10:13:26 2002
Subject: Re: TVBARN.COM Feedback
To: mpmc3258@swbell.net
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <3D763137.6010809@swbell.net> from "Myrna Corpeny" at Sep 04, 2002 11:13:43 AM
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Hey, I just posted something about Gordon Parks -- it's in my
neighborhood.  (See the Sidebar on the right, the item about Derrick
Thomas Academy.)

You can reach Geri at home at 931-2446.

> 
> Thank you for providing this site.
> In your Sunday article regarding Geri Gosa, you quoted her as saying she 
> intended to do "some serious volunteer work".  I would like to contact 
> her regarding speaking to some children at GORDON PARKS ELEMENTARY 
> SCHOOL.  How can I contact her?  I would appreciate your help...at your 
> convenience.
> Thank you.
> Myrna Corpeny
> 816-361-9242
> mpmc3258@swbell.net
> 
> 
> 



From tvbarn Thu Sep  5 07:35:17 2002
Subject: Re: TVBARN.COM Feedback
To: jmartellaro@ccgcorp.com (John Martellaro)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 07:35:17 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <434E54FC0DFE584FA9EACB1ADDDA427A0C562B@email.ccgcorp.com> from "John Martellaro" at Sep 05, 2002 09:12:11 AM
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great tips, friend, thank you.  When I emerge from Tuesday's column I'll
look into these.

> 
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> 
> Hi, Aaron:
> 
> =20
> 
> Got a couple of things for you.  First, were you aware that you were
> shamelessly ripped off on KYYS-FM yesterday morning? I was listening to
> the "Max, Tanna & Moffat" show on the way to work, and Larry Moffat
> riffed on your "Barney is a reality show" satire without giving you or
> the Star any credit whatsoever, from what I heard. He was literally
> reading sections of your story on the air as if it was his own brilliant
> comedy routine. You should double-check this before you complain, as
> there may have been some kind of credit given prior to what I heard, but
> it didn't seem like it was in the middle of a routine when I tuned in. I
> remember waiting to hear him mention your name, and when he didn't, I
> was shocked.
> 
> =20
> 
> Point two: Are you aware that WIBW-TV in Topeka will be broadcasting a
> debate in October between the two candidates for Kansas governor, and
> have offered to make it available for local broadcast in the KC area,
> but that no local stations in this market have picked it up? So much for
> a commitment to news and public affairs . . .=20
> 
> =20
> 
> Hope this finds you and Diane well and happy. Take care.=20
> 
> =20
> 
> John Martellaro
> 
> Corporate Communications Group
> 
> 10975 Benson Drive, Suite 150
> 
> Overland Park, KS  66210
> 
> 913-451-2990
> 
> john_martellaro@ccgcorp.com
> 
> =20
> 
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Hi, Aaron:</span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Got a couple of things for you.&nbsp; First, were you =
> aware
> that you were shamelessly ripped off on KYYS-FM yesterday morning? I was
> listening to the &#8220;Max, Tanna &amp; Moffat&#8221; show on the way =
> to work,
> and Larry Moffat riffed on your &#8220;Barney is a reality show&#8221; =
> satire
> without giving you or the Star any credit whatsoever, from what I heard. =
> He was
> literally reading sections of your story on the air as if it was his own
> brilliant comedy routine. You should double-check this before you =
> complain, as
> there may have been some kind of credit given prior to what I heard, but =
> it
> didn&#8217;t seem like it was in the middle of a routine when I tuned =
> in. I
> remember waiting to hear him mention your name, and when he =
> didn&#8217;t, I was
> shocked.</span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Point two: Are you aware that WIBW-TV in Topeka will =
> be
> broadcasting a debate in October between the two candidates for Kansas
> governor, and have offered to make it available for local broadcast in =
> the KC
> area, but that no local stations in this market have picked it up? So =
> much for
> a commitment to news and public affairs . . . </span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Hope this finds you and Diane well and happy. Take =
> care. </span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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> 
> <p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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> 
> <p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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> 
> <p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>10975 Benson Drive, Suite 150</span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>Overland Park, KS&nbsp; 66210</span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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> 
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> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>john_martellaro@ccgcorp.com</span></font></p>
> 
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From tvbarn Thu Sep  5 07:36:43 2002
Subject: Re: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
To: DEastick@hatch.ca (Eastick, Doug)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 07:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <02Sep5.083728edt.119087@gateway.hatch.ca> from "Eastick, Doug" at Sep 05, 2002 08:37:25 AM
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nonono.  Just checking.  Wonder what he.net can do for me SQLwise.  You
did read their FAQ right?

http://he.net/faq/

> 
> Am I sensing a bit of doubt?
> 
> Tried a different plan of attack last night, which again failed.  But a new
> approach appeared in my daze...
> 
> I'll try two more things today before I give up.
> 
> I'll keep you posted.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Barnhart [mailto:aaron@tvbarn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 07:40
> To: Eastick, Doug
> Subject: RE: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> 
> 
> So now my question is ... will MT ever get installed on my server? 
> Or is the antiquated mysql module a brick wall we can't get around?
> 
> >Anyway,  I have *almost* got MT installed and working.  The only hangup is
> >DBD::mysql which doesn't pass tests and MT dies when it tries to
> >setup/access the db.  There is a new directory public_html/mt/ which has my
> >current "live" work.
> >
> >I tried for an hour again this morning to get DBD::mysql to pass tests but
> >it ain't there yet.  I'm going to camp/cottage right after work so I won't
> >be able to touch your stuff until Tuesday night -- sorry 'bout that.  I
> will
> >finish this project -- unlike some of the others....
> >
> >So far we can do this (if you are following the bouncing ball from the
> >installation instructions):
> >1)  http://www.tvbarn.com/mt/mt-check.cgi
> >	says all the prereq are installed.  And your version of perl is
> >being used.
> >2) http://www.tvbarn.com/mt/mt-load.cgi
> >	this should create the db and setup MT.  But it dies because
> >DBD::mysql ain't workin' right.
> >
> >If you need to know, your Mysql database is called "tvbarn" (as dictated by
> >he.net), the username is "tvbarn" and the password is "l3tt3rman"
> >(hackertype for letterman - ain't I cool?).  But you shouldn't have to dick
> >with that stuff.
> >
> >Someday we should work on tidying up your disk space if that is a concern.
> >No need to keep around unzipped sources, plus the tarball.  I think I
> >already deleted perl-5.6.1.tar.gz.
> >
> >Have a good weekend.
> >Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Aaron Barnhart/Star [mailto:aaron@tvbarn.com]
> >Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 13:20
> >To: wumba_man@yahoo.ca; deastick@HATCH.CA
> >Subject: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> >
> >
> >And in the future, don't hesitate to try my cell, 816-678-5946.
> >
> >>i have alerted the admins to the issue
> >>
> >>
> >>---- Original message ----
> >>
> >>>   Hi, the disk on pine.he.net is full.  df output shows 100%.  Nothing
> >>>   works that involves disk space (i.e. "vi" doesn't work because it
> >>>   can't write to /tmp).
> >>>
> >>>   pine:~$ df
> >>>   Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> >>>   /dev/sda1            15933005 15221856        0    100%   /
> >>>
> >>>   Please advise when this is tidied up.
> >>>
> >>>   Thanks,
> >>>   Doug
> >>>
> >>>   =====
> >>>   Ever regret one of those account names you picked for
> >>>   a free email account?  I do.
> >>>
> >>>   __________________________________________________
> >>>   Do You Yahoo!?
> >>>   Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
> >>>   http://finance.yahoo.com
> >>>
> >
> >--
> >TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com
> 
> -- 
> TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com
> 
> 



From tvbarn Thu Sep  5 07:59:51 2002
Subject: Re: FW: Excellent job
To: nolan@kcstar.com
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 07:59:51 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <307C2AA688A2D411830100805F6515690EE22A@kcsxch01.kcstar.com> from "nolan@kcstar.com" at Sep 05, 2002 09:42:42 AM
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Did I not CC you on my reply to OJ?  I told him that since WDAF and KSHB
had both made i-team pushes in the past five years -- only to abandon them
-- I would take a wait-and-see here.


> 
> HHHMMMMMMM
> > ----------
> > From: 	Nelson,  Michael (OJ)  (Kansas City)
> > Sent: 	Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:13AM
> > To: 	Nolan, Mary Lou (Kansas City); Barnhart, Aaron (Kansas City)
> > Subject: 	FW: Excellent job
> > 
> > Hey, feature folks--
> > 
> > This was sent to me by Bb Cronkleton and in it may be a story. Or maybe
> > not.
> > 
> > OJ
> > 
> > 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Cronkleton, Bob (Kansas City)
> > Sent: 	Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:11PM
> > To: 	Nelson,  Michael (OJ)  (Kansas City); Weber, Kirk (Kansas City);
> > Barker, Jesse (Kansas City)
> > Subject: 	FW: Excellent job
> > 
> > OJ, Kirk and Jesse:
> > 
> > Just thought I would pass this on to you. This went out across the IRE
> > listserve. I wonder what they mean by ``redefining news''
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Laura Oxley[SMTP:loxley@MDP.COM]
> > Sent: 	Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:18PM
> > To: 	IRE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU
> > Subject: 	Excellent job
> > 
> > Fellow listers,
> > It is my honor to inform you of an investigative producer opening at
> > KCTV5.  We're redefining news in Kansas City and want a good snooper to be
> > part of the team.  If you're interested in exposing the truth while
> > turning great television stories, drop me a line.   Or send your tape and
> > resume to Regent Ducas, KCTV5 News Director, Post Office Box 5555, Kansas
> > City, MO 64109.
> > 
> > Laura Oxley
> > KCTV5
> > 913-677-7115
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



From tvbarn Thu Sep  5 08:09:36 2002
Subject: Re: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
To: DEastick@hatch.ca (Eastick, Doug)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:09:36 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <02Sep5.104126edt.119086@gateway.hatch.ca> from "Eastick, Doug" at Sep 05, 2002 10:41:25 AM
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Is it just me, or should we NOT have to be contorting to fit HE's outdated
software library?

> 
> read the FAQ several times, which led me to another solution.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tvbarn [mailto:tvbarn@pine.he.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:37
> To: DEastick@hatch.ca
> Subject: Re: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> 
> 
> nonono.  Just checking.  Wonder what he.net can do for me SQLwise.  You
> did read their FAQ right?
> 
> http://he.net/faq/
> 
> > 
> > Am I sensing a bit of doubt?
> > 
> > Tried a different plan of attack last night, which again failed.  But a
> new
> > approach appeared in my daze...
> > 
> > I'll try two more things today before I give up.
> > 
> > I'll keep you posted.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Barnhart [mailto:aaron@tvbarn.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 07:40
> > To: Eastick, Doug
> > Subject: RE: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> > 
> > 
> > So now my question is ... will MT ever get installed on my server? 
> > Or is the antiquated mysql module a brick wall we can't get around?
> > 
> > >Anyway,  I have *almost* got MT installed and working.  The only hangup
> is
> > >DBD::mysql which doesn't pass tests and MT dies when it tries to
> > >setup/access the db.  There is a new directory public_html/mt/ which has
> my
> > >current "live" work.
> > >
> > >I tried for an hour again this morning to get DBD::mysql to pass tests
> but
> > >it ain't there yet.  I'm going to camp/cottage right after work so I
> won't
> > >be able to touch your stuff until Tuesday night -- sorry 'bout that.  I
> > will
> > >finish this project -- unlike some of the others....
> > >
> > >So far we can do this (if you are following the bouncing ball from the
> > >installation instructions):
> > >1)  http://www.tvbarn.com/mt/mt-check.cgi
> > >	says all the prereq are installed.  And your version of perl is
> > >being used.
> > >2) http://www.tvbarn.com/mt/mt-load.cgi
> > >	this should create the db and setup MT.  But it dies because
> > >DBD::mysql ain't workin' right.
> > >
> > >If you need to know, your Mysql database is called "tvbarn" (as dictated
> by
> > >he.net), the username is "tvbarn" and the password is "l3tt3rman"
> > >(hackertype for letterman - ain't I cool?).  But you shouldn't have to
> dick
> > >with that stuff.
> > >
> > >Someday we should work on tidying up your disk space if that is a
> concern.
> > >No need to keep around unzipped sources, plus the tarball.  I think I
> > >already deleted perl-5.6.1.tar.gz.
> > >
> > >Have a good weekend.
> > >Doug
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Aaron Barnhart/Star [mailto:aaron@tvbarn.com]
> > >Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 13:20
> > >To: wumba_man@yahoo.ca; deastick@HATCH.CA
> > >Subject: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> > >
> > >
> > >And in the future, don't hesitate to try my cell, 816-678-5946.
> > >
> > >>i have alerted the admins to the issue
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>---- Original message ----
> > >>
> > >>>   Hi, the disk on pine.he.net is full.  df output shows 100%.  Nothing
> > >>>   works that involves disk space (i.e. "vi" doesn't work because it
> > >>>   can't write to /tmp).
> > >>>
> > >>>   pine:~$ df
> > >>>   Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> > >>>   /dev/sda1            15933005 15221856        0    100%   /
> > >>>
> > >>>   Please advise when this is tidied up.
> > >>>
> > >>>   Thanks,
> > >>>   Doug
> > >>>
> > >>>   =====
> > >>>   Ever regret one of those account names you picked for
> > >>>   a free email account?  I do.
> > >>>
> > >>>   __________________________________________________
> > >>>   Do You Yahoo!?
> > >>>   Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
> > >>>   http://finance.yahoo.com
> > >>>
> > >
> > >--
> > >TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com
> > 
> > -- 
> > TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



From tvbarn Thu Sep  5 09:12:25 2002
Subject: Re: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.netr
To: DEastick@hatch.ca (Eastick, Doug)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <02Sep5.115506edt.119080@gateway.hatch.ca> from "Eastick, Doug" at Sep 05, 2002 11:55:04 AM
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Hey, don't get the idea I'm wedded for life to he.net.  I think their
servers are fast as all get-out, and I love their rates for what they
deliver.  But now I need more -- not just gigs of bandwidth and 250 megs
of space but flexible software without buying a dedicated space.

So if you want to recommend a server farm that does that, and I'll be
checking with a very large provider that just happens to be two blocks
from my workplace, then please recommend.

> 
> Agreed.  They should upgrade perl and mysql to something newer than 2 years
> old.
> 
> When you asked about perl before they said "install it yourself".  Well,
> that's not great customer service.
> 
> Let me try one more thing using their perl (and not yours).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tvbarn [mailto:tvbarn@pine.he.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:10
> To: DEastick@hatch.ca
> Subject: Re: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> 
> 
> Is it just me, or should we NOT have to be contorting to fit HE's outdated
> software library?
> 
> > 
> > read the FAQ several times, which led me to another solution.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tvbarn [mailto:tvbarn@pine.he.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:37
> > To: DEastick@hatch.ca
> > Subject: Re: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> > 
> > 
> > nonono.  Just checking.  Wonder what he.net can do for me SQLwise.  You
> > did read their FAQ right?
> > 
> > http://he.net/faq/
> > 
> > > 
> > > Am I sensing a bit of doubt?
> > > 
> > > Tried a different plan of attack last night, which again failed.  But a
> > new
> > > approach appeared in my daze...
> > > 
> > > I'll try two more things today before I give up.
> > > 
> > > I'll keep you posted.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Aaron Barnhart [mailto:aaron@tvbarn.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 07:40
> > > To: Eastick, Doug
> > > Subject: RE: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So now my question is ... will MT ever get installed on my server? 
> > > Or is the antiquated mysql module a brick wall we can't get around?
> > > 
> > > >Anyway,  I have *almost* got MT installed and working.  The only hangup
> > is
> > > >DBD::mysql which doesn't pass tests and MT dies when it tries to
> > > >setup/access the db.  There is a new directory public_html/mt/ which
> has
> > my
> > > >current "live" work.
> > > >
> > > >I tried for an hour again this morning to get DBD::mysql to pass tests
> > but
> > > >it ain't there yet.  I'm going to camp/cottage right after work so I
> > won't
> > > >be able to touch your stuff until Tuesday night -- sorry 'bout that.  I
> > > will
> > > >finish this project -- unlike some of the others....
> > > >
> > > >So far we can do this (if you are following the bouncing ball from the
> > > >installation instructions):
> > > >1)  http://www.tvbarn.com/mt/mt-check.cgi
> > > >	says all the prereq are installed.  And your version of perl is
> > > >being used.
> > > >2) http://www.tvbarn.com/mt/mt-load.cgi
> > > >	this should create the db and setup MT.  But it dies because
> > > >DBD::mysql ain't workin' right.
> > > >
> > > >If you need to know, your Mysql database is called "tvbarn" (as
> dictated
> > by
> > > >he.net), the username is "tvbarn" and the password is "l3tt3rman"
> > > >(hackertype for letterman - ain't I cool?).  But you shouldn't have to
> > dick
> > > >with that stuff.
> > > >
> > > >Someday we should work on tidying up your disk space if that is a
> > concern.
> > > >No need to keep around unzipped sources, plus the tarball.  I think I
> > > >already deleted perl-5.6.1.tar.gz.
> > > >
> > > >Have a good weekend.
> > > >Doug
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Aaron Barnhart/Star [mailto:aaron@tvbarn.com]
> > > >Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 13:20
> > > >To: wumba_man@yahoo.ca; deastick@HATCH.CA
> > > >Subject: [#45799] Re: URGENT:disk full on pine.he.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >And in the future, don't hesitate to try my cell, 816-678-5946.
> > > >
> > > >>i have alerted the admins to the issue
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>---- Original message ----
> > > >>
> > > >>>   Hi, the disk on pine.he.net is full.  df output shows 100%.
> Nothing
> > > >>>   works that involves disk space (i.e. "vi" doesn't work because it
> > > >>>   can't write to /tmp).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   pine:~$ df
> > > >>>   Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> > > >>>   /dev/sda1            15933005 15221856        0    100%   /
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Please advise when this is tidied up.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Thanks,
> > > >>>   Doug
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   =====
> > > >>>   Ever regret one of those account names you picked for
> > > >>>   a free email account?  I do.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   __________________________________________________
> > > >>>   Do You Yahoo!?
> > > >>>   Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
> > > >>>   http://finance.yahoo.com
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



From tvbarn Thu Sep  5 09:13:15 2002
Subject: Re: TVBARN.COM Feedback
To: sbrady@mediacentral.com (Shirley Brady)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:13:15 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: aaron@tvbarn.com (Aaron Barnhart)
In-Reply-To: <200209051530.IAA19240@pine.he.net> from "Shirley Brady" at Sep 05, 2002 08:30:40 AM
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Where would I be without Primedia?  Thanks.

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