From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 3:36pm
Subject: Re: Re: Invisible Man Cancelled

At 07:06 PM 10/10/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Forgive my ignorance, but what's the relationship between "Invisible
>Man" on Sci-Fi Channel and the episodes which are syndicated at local
>broadcast stations across the country (mine being one of them?)

Studios USA syndicates the series to local stations in addition to it being 
run on their Sci-Fi Channel.  The schedule used to be the same as what was 
running on SFC but an outcry from the broadcasters that they never had new 
product to run during broadcast sweeps caused them to change it up a 
bit.  The show should run through the rest of the season in syndication.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 3:40pm
Subject: Re: Re: Invisible Man Cancelled

At 12:29 PM 10/10/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>         My guess is that's similar to most cable-rebroadcast-syndicated
>deals.  The syndicated episodes are from the previous season of "Invisible
>Man."

Not quite - they are from the current season.  it's kind of like the deal 
WGN has to run a lot of the syndicated hours a week after their primary 
window.  For example, the Mutant X premiere and the premiere of Andromeda 
should be running on WGN this weekend (those episodes ran on the regular 
stations last weekend).


>         I'm sort of disappointed Sci-Fi canceled "The Invisible Man."
>While it was never great, it was pretty good at being fun and
>entertaining.  It was the best Sci-Fi original besides "Farscape."  I'm
>afraid to see what they'll spend the saved money on.

A new season of Stargate: SG1 for starters.  There's still the possibility 
of another Babylon 5 spinoff (although it's not looking good, considering 
the movie / pilot has been in the can for a while now and it's scheduled 
for January).  Then there's the second Dune mini-series.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: Don Hosek  <dhosek@quixote.com>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 4:12pm
Subject: Re: George is getting exposure

--- In tvbarn2@y..., PGage@A... wrote:
> Do networks ever refuse to schedule a commercial like this right 
before a 
> competing show (e.g., could/does NBC refuse to schedule the KFC 
commercial 
> right before *Frazier*?). 

NBC for a while refused to air the Simpsons Butterfingers 
commercials. I think they eventually backed off because of its being 
obviously counterproductive. 

I haven't seen the commercial, but unless Jason Alexander were 
explicitly being Bob Patterson in the commercial, it's unlikely to 
cause much of a fuss, and given the brouhaha with the Simpsons 
commercial, I think that even that fuss might be muted.

-dh

From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 4:48pm
Subject: RE: Al-Jazeera backgrounder

> Starting with six hours daily, Al-Jazeera built up to 24 hours by 
> February 1999, becoming a pioneer of around-the-clock Arab 
> news coverage. Its bulletins focus more on news filed by 
> overseas correspondents rather than commentaries on Arab 
> leaders' meetings.
> 
> The channel is received on:
> 
> Arabsat 2A, 26 east and Arabsat 3A, 26 east (pan-Arab)
> Nilesat 101, 7 west (Egypt)
> Amos 1, 4 west (Israel)
> PanAmSat PAS 2, 169 east and PAS 9, 58 west (Americas)
> EchoStar 1, 148 west and EchoStar 3, 61.5 west (Americas)
> Telstar 5, 97 west (Americas)
> Eurobird, 28.5 east (Sky Digital - UK)
> Eutelsat W4, 36 east (Europe)
> Hot Bird 3, 13 east (Europe)

Since EchoStar is Dish Network, that means that people who subscribe to
their ethnic package can get Al-Jazeera.  Is PamAmSat DirecTV's satellite?

Not that very many of us can understand Arabic, anyway...

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...

From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 5:09pm
Subject: RE: yet another way to tick off the viewers

At 02:25 PM 10/10/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > New York's UPN outlet WWOR didn't shrink the post-show credits on
> > "Roswell" last night. And they did run their standard
> > 2/3-screen-filling news teasers while those credits ran. No new video
> > trickery involved. They just covered over the credits that
> > appeared on
> > the top 2/3 of the screen, leaving the bottom few lines visible.
> > Jerks.
>
>UPN didn't run a blank split-screen for the news promo to run in?  Or do
>they run credits full-screen for the shows that are most likely to appear on
>secondary affiliates at other times (which I guess would mean "Buffy,"
>"Roswell," "Enterprise" and "Smackdown" this season)?

It's not WWOR or any of your locals - that's how the shows are being 
made.  Buffy, as fed to Canada, has a large Buffy logo in the top 2/3 of 
the screen.  That's how it looks when it runs in Canada.  On UPN, they use 
that for UPN promos or for the few UPN stations that have news, a news 
teaser.  I haven't looked at the Canadian feed for Roswell to see if 
they're doing the same thing, but it wouldn't surprise me.  I do know that 
Enterprise has full screen credits (well, full within the letterbox) when 
fed to Canada.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 1:17pm
Subject: Queer As Folk Season One VHS & DVD Release In January...

SHOWTIME Entertainment Proudly  
Presents the Most Controversial Series to Ever Hit Television 

QUEER AS FOLK

"There's never been anything else like it on TV..." - USA Today
"Groundbreaking"  - People Magazine
"Revolutionary" - The New York Times 

Complete 22-Episode First Season Available January 8, 2002 
On VHS and Special Edition DVD Box Sets

NEW YORK (October 10, 2001) - On January 8, 2002, Showtime Entertainment
proudly presents the release of the complete 22-episode first season of the
critically-acclaimed and highly-rated landmark SHOWTIME series Queer As
Folk, one of the most courageous and daring series of all time.   

Available for the first-time ever on video and DVD, Queer as Folk - Season
One will be presented in a special boxed collection featuring all 22
episodes in a 5-tape VHS set and a 6-disc Special Edition Collectors DVD set
featuring almost three hours of extras including "Meet the Folk" - unique
biographies on the eight key characters as described by the actors playing
them, as well as filmographies on the actors and four producers; extended
scenes with introduction by Hal Sparks; a gag reel of hilarious outtakes; a
photo gallery put to music from the series; and special editions of episodes
1, 11 and 18 with commentary by the actors and producers.  Both box sets,
with a running time of 990 minutes, are available to own on January 8, 2002
for an SRP of $119.98.  Showtime will make Gift Certificates available to
consumers for Holiday gift giving through retail partners and via websites.

Based on Britain's controversial series of the same name, Queer As Folk is
about the lives of a group of gay men and women living in Pittsburgh.
Focusing on their relationships, their careers, their loves and ambitions,
the series is a brave, realistic, funny and sometimes graphic portrayal of
society that has never been seen before on U.S. television. 

Stunning audiences with its graphic sexual content, provocative dialogue and
unflinching portrait of an aspect of gay cultural life, Queer as Folk
premiered on SHOWTIME in December 2000 and captivated critics and viewers
alike, becoming the highest rated series on SHOWTIME.  Winner of GLAAD's
(Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) 2001 Media Award for
"Outstanding Drama Series," the second season of Queer as Folk will premiere
Sunday, January 6 on SHOWTIME, just days prior to the release of the Season
One VHS and DVD box sets.

SPECIAL DVD FEATURES
Queer as Folk Special Edition DVD Collectors Box will feature almost three
hours of compelling value-added materials including: 
*    Special editions of episodes 1, 11 and 18 with actor and producer
commentary 
*    A gag reel of hilarious outtakes 
*    Extended scenes with introduction by actor Hal Sparks 
*    A sneak peek at Season Two
*    "Meet the Folk" - unique biographies on the eight key characters as
described by the actors playing them, as well as filmographies on the actors
and producers
*    Photo gallery put to music from the series
*    Full motion menus
*    Scene access 
*    "At a Glance" - an index outlining the content on each disc
*    DVD-ROM lock and key feature that will push users to the website
where they can access special exclusive content with planned periodic
updates
*    Show bumpers
*    Widescreen format 
*    
*    CONSUMER SWEEPSTAKES & IN-PAK COUPON BOOK 
*    In conjunction with the DVD and VHS release, SHOWTIME Entertainment
is conducting the  "Queer as Folk" sweepstakes with several substantial
prizes including a Subaru Outback, $10,000 of home furnishings from Mitchell
Gold and many others.  Another bonus for consumers who purchase Queer as
Folk on VHS or DVD, is an in-pak coupon book with over $50 in savings on a
broad spectrum of consumer products, including a $25 credit from Showtime
with a new subscription (3 months of cable bills proof of purchase
required). 
*    
*    SYNOPSIS
*    Queer as Folk is about the lives of a group of gay men and women
living in Pittsburgh who, like anyone, are focused on their relationships,
careers, loves and ambitions.  The series is a realistic, funny and
sometimes graphic portrayal of a minority community living in present-day
society.  It's not West Hollywood, it's not the Castro and it's not Chelsea.
It may be a small world - a gay Main Street with a couple of bars, a disco,
a few shops and a diner - but its reverberations are universal.  Queer as
Folk is an unapologetic celebration of life in its varied forms.  And as
always, in the differences we discover the similarities that make us all
human.  
*    
*    Brian Kinney (Gale Harold), is a sexual animal, always on the prowl
for his next conquest.  Michael Novotny (Hal Sparks) is his best friend.
Justin Taylor (Randy Harrison) is a 17-year-old boy whose life is changed
one night when he experiences sex and what he thinks is love, for the first
time.  Emmett Honeycutt (Peter Paige) is the 
*    most flamboyant of his friends and wears it with pride.  Ted Schmidt
(Scott Lowell) is an accountant whose fatal flaw is a lust for 20-somethings
who don't return his interest. Debbie Novotny (Sharon Gless) is Michael's
eccentric mother - vehemently proud of her gay son.  Dr. David Cameron
(Chris Potter) is the dreamboat chiropractor who makes Michael forget about
Brian, for a while.  Lindsay Peterson (Thea Gill), an art teacher and
Melanie Marcus (Michelle Clunie), a lawyer, are a loving lesbian couple who
decide to have a child sired by Brian (whom Melanie despises), not realizing
exactly how complicated and entwined their lives will become.  
*    
*    Queer As Folk is executive produced by Ron Cowen, Daniel Lipman and
Tony Jonas. Cowen & Lipman developed the series for American television
based on the British series created by Russell T. Davies.  Sheila Hockin
serves as producer.  Davies is a consultant on the SHOWTIME series from Tony
Jonas Productions, Cowlip Productions and Temple Street Productions.
*    
*    Showtime Networks Inc. (SNI), which is a wholly owned subsidiary of
Viacom Inc., owns the premium television networks SHOWTIME, THE MOVIE
CHANNEL and FLIX, as well as the multiplex channels SHOWTIME TOO, SHOWTIME
SHOWCASE, SHOWTIME EXTREME, SHOWTIME BEYOND, SHOWTIME NEXT, SHOWTIME WOMEN,
SHOWTIME FAMILYZONE and TMC xtra.  SNI operates and manages the premium
television network SUNDANCE CHANNEL, which is owned by SNI, Robert Redford
and Universal Studios.  SNI markets and distributes sports and entertainment
events for exhibition to subscribers on a pay-per-view basis through SET
(Showtime Event Television) Pay Per View. Additionally, the
advertiser-supported television network SHOWTIME EXTREME is available in
Spain through a joint venture with Media Park and the advertiser-supported
television network SHOWTIME is available in Turkey through a joint venture
with UK-based Zone Vision.
*    
*    Street Date:                January 8, 2002
*    MPAA Rating:                Not Rated
*    Closed Captioned                
*    VHS Running Time:            990 min.
*    DVD Running Time:             990 min. + 3 hours bonus
feature footage
*    VHS Pricing:                $119.98 SRP
*    DVD Pricing                $119.98 SRP



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From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 1:19pm
Subject: Osama & the evil genius Bert...

check it out --
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,36218,00.html

This has got to be one of the strangest, funniest things I've seen in awhile, 
and it appears to actually be legit?


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From: BFWhalen  <bfwhalen3@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 5:40pm
Subject: Nikita in Section, Alias is CIA

To those who don't know the difference, Nikita worked
for an entirely different organization than the CIA.

All of the new shows -- Alias, Agency, and UC, involve
the CIA.

Remember, the CIA was the organization which for some
reason was unable to uncover the plot to destroy the
WTC and Pentagon on Sept. 11. Nikita worked for a
clandestine group, Section One, which was not under
the aegis of the CIA or any one government.

Alias is not La Femme Nikita.

From: Darren Glass  <glassd@math.upenn.edu>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 5:52pm
Subject: George is getting exposure

Last year when McDonalds was running a cross-promotion with "Who Wants to
be a Millionaire!", I remember the commercials for it on ABC were
different than those that ran on the other networks.  I'm pretty sure on
the other networks they always just referred to it as 'Millionaire' (as
opposed to the full title), and they didn't show Regis or the set.

darren

From: Keith@PRIVETT.COM
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 6:16pm
Subject: Rush Limbaugh and Irony

Though part of me wants to be sympathetic, the other part thinks the 
fates have a wild sense of humor: 

A man unwilling to listen to opposing views is made unable to hear at 
all...

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 5:11pm
Subject: on Americas unluckiest drama....

THE CIA CONFRONTS AN ANTHRAX THREAT TO THE CAPITAL,ON "THE AGENCY," OCT. 11

"Anthrax" -- The team works against the clock to stop an anthrax threat in 
the United States, on THE AGENCY, Thursday, Oct. 11 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) 
on the CBS Television Network.

A Belgian kennel has fallen victim to a terrorist attack in which the deadly 
disease anthrax was used. When the CIA discovers the perpetrator's identity 
and that Washington, D.C., is his next target, the team mobilizes to stop the 
criminal before he can reach the capital. Terri joins Matt in the field for 
her first assignment.


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From: jondelfin@aol.com
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 9:18pm
Subject: Re: yet another way to tick off the viewers

Sorry I wasn't clearer. I was referring to the hamhanded screen 
grabbing of NYC's Channel 9. I have no idea what UPN does. Channel 9 
has always messed with the end credits of whichever show precedes the 
10pm news (so Buffy is exempt). It's possible that they simply blew up 
the news promo accidentally so that it filled up more of the screen 
and overlapped the credits area down below. No way to know.

One other note from the land of time-shifting. I watched "100 Centre 
Street" today, taped Monday night. Cute little story featuring Eli 
Wallach as a burlesque veteran accused of whatever larceny it is when 
you record a live performance illegally and sell the tape. His alibi 
was that he needed the lyrics to "Luck Be a Lady" for his new act, or 
something like that. He was so colorful and cuddly that the judge let 
him go with a slap on the wrist. I wonder if episode scribe Sidney 
Lumet screwed up, or if it was his choice to make the courtroom 
population completely oblivious to the fact that if the Wallach 
character needed those lyrics, it would have been a damn sight cheaper 
to buy a copy of the song's sheet music than to buy a ticket to the 
show and smuggle in his recording equipment.

From: Barry Margolin  <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 10:13pm
Subject: Re: Invisible Man Cancelled

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Anthony Foglia <afoglia@p...> wrote:
> 	My guess is that's similar to most 
cable-rebroadcast-syndicated
> deals.  The syndicated episodes are from the previous season 
of "Invisible
> Man."

Actually, they're from the previous week.  It's similar to the way 
Lifetime reruns episodes of Once and Again.

From: thumbsup3@aol.com
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 6:25pm
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh and Irony

<< 
 Though part of me wants to be sympathetic, the other part thinks the 
 fates have a wild sense of humor: 
 
 A man unwilling to listen to opposing views is made unable to hear at 
 all...  >>

Or, as someone in my office said, a man who seemed to have loved the sound of 
his own voice...

Christine

From: pmurray@bigfoot.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 0:33am
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh and Irony

--- In tvbarn2@y..., thumbsup3@a... wrote:
> << 
>  Though part of me wants to be sympathetic, the other part thinks 
the 
>  fates have a wild sense of humor: 
>  
>  A man unwilling to listen to opposing views is made unable to hear 
at 
>  all...  >>
> 
> Or, as someone in my office said, a man who seemed to have loved 
the sound of 
> his own voice...

Jim Romanesko's MediaNews had a letter from someone arguing why he 
didn't feel sorry for Limbaugh. I'm not saying I agree with it, but 
it's an interesting point:

http://www.poynter.org/medianews/letters.htm
From CHARLES PIERCE: I do seem to recall that, a few years back on 
his micro-rated television show, Mr. Limbaugh once made sport of the 
height of Robert Reich, then a member of the Clinton cabinet. He 
mentioned Mr. Reich's name, and then he showed the top of someone's 
head, to the hilarious enjoyment of the several people he'd dragooned 
into the studio. Of course, Mr. Reich's height is the result of an 
unfortunate childhood medical condition. Now, though, all the D.C. 
Cool Kids feel really bad about poor Rush without remembering the 
classic formulation once taught to me by an old tabloid editor back 
when I worked on an old tabloid: "Son, you know what you get when a 
jerk dies? A dead jerk." (I did clean things up a bit). Would I wish 
this upon Rush? No. Can I summon up an ounce of sympathy? Well, ditto.


On a related note... if you feel like believing Matt Drudge -- this 
seems like one of his more credible stories -- Limbaugh's doctors 
think they will be able to save some of his hearing. He sez they'll 
have a press conference Thursday morning:
http://www.drudgereport.com/matt9.htm


Paul Murray
http://www.paulmurray.net

From: Tom  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:19am
Subject: Remote Patrol: Temp 'Agency'

CBS launches a new show called "Survivor" (8 PM). I've seen no publicity about this, but from what I've heard it involves a group of strangers learning to live together in an exotic locale trying to win a large amount of money. 

	The WB launches a primetime version of the syndicated dating game "Elimidate" called "Elimidate Deluxe" (8 PM). The difference? Not only is the network version a full hour, it also is topped with lettuce, mayonnaise and a tomato.

	One of the guys (or maybe the gal) asks "When Sting retires, will he change his name to Stung?" on tonight's "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" (8 PM) on ABC.

	Ross is the father on NBC's "Friends" (8 PM). Who didn't see that coming 7 years back? Zzzzzzzzz. Wake me when it's your last episode. 

	The History Channel's "History Undercover" explores the common links among "Three Air Crashes" all of which took off from JFK Airport. (Click).

	Amy Sedaris may or may not have been David Spade's stalker on NBC's otherwise lame "Just Shoot Me" (9:30).

	Millionaire exec producer Michael Davies has been hired to add some reality to A&E. The result is "Ultimate Reality" (10 PM), sorta like Fear Factor, except the participants actually volunteer to do the stupid stunts -- not unlike "Name your Adventure" hosted by Mario Lopez at one time on the NBC Saturday teen lineup. 

	Louie: "Name a bad plot for a TV drama after September 11." 
	Contestant 1: "Anthrax?"
	Louie: "SHOW ME... ANTHRAX!... It's number 2, one answer can beat it"
	Contestant 2: "Osama bin Laden?"
	Louie: "SHOW ME... OSAMA! ... okay, it's number 1"
	Unless someone smart pulls this one, CBS' "The Agency" (10 PM) airs an anthrax episode tonight. Either they'll run out of episodes in good taste to air, or it will be canceled. 

	Who wants us dead and why? And which of them is harboring Carmen SanDiego? "Peter Jennings Reporting: Minefield -- The United States and the Muslim World (10 PM) checks off the countries of the Islamic world in a naughty and nice list.

	Louis Armstrong, Marvin Gaye, Sly & The Family Stone, Run-D.M.C. and Michael Jackson are among those profiled on VH1's "Say It Loud!" (10 PM). George Clinton and T-Boz explain how fashion and pop culture have been changed by black musicians. Not that either of these two have ever worn anything I'd even consider.

	Dave (11:35ish) has Bruce Willis who actually appears to be making decent movies well, except for "The Kid" and "Breakfast Of Champions"). Jay (same time) has Britney Spears because we all wonder what she thinks about Osama bin Laden. ("He's icky.")

From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 10:40am
Subject: Re: Remote Patrol: Temp 'Agency'

At 12:19 PM 10/11/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Unless someone smart pulls this one, CBS' "The Agency" (10 PM) airs an 
>anthrax episode tonight. Either they'll run out of episodes in good taste 
>to air, or it will be canceled.

All I know is that the Anthrax episode was fed to Canada last night, so 
it's a pretty good bet we'll be getting it here.  As to whether or not it's 
in good taste, that's a personal decision but what are they supposed to do 
episodes about?  The secret plot initiated by T.H.R.U.S.H. and 
S.P.E.C.T.R.E. to dominate the world?

Wow, where *are* the Men From U.N.C.L.E. when you need them?


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: anton@catalystinternet.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 0:51pm
Subject: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-101001network.story

I guess not everyone can be like Comedy Central and develop
innovatively CHEAP programming, such as "Insomniac", which is just
Dave Attell and a single handheld camera.  Or "Let's Bowl" which is
basically just two guys  (one doing a cheap Paul Lynde imitation) at a
bowling alley.  Or do the networks feel it's beneath them?

We have 70 channels and yet nobody watches TV on Saturdays?  Cable is
more expensive than ever but nobody can afford to put anything on it?
 Sponsors have more brands than ever but can't afford to advertise
them?  Ads cost far more to produce than the shows being sponsored? 
Entire football stadiums are being built on TV revenue, but MNF
ratings are way down?  Sometimes it feels like the whole system is
falling like a house of cards.

From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 8:59am
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

Well, I couldn't quite figure out why NBC followed ABC into the Saturday 
movie game (except for the obvious, viewing levels in key demos on Saturday 
nights is low.) 

This means that in a lot of markets there are simultaneous movies on ABC, 
NBC, WB and UPN affiliates (which don't have network programming on 
Saturdays.) Way to counter-program!

As far as ABC turning it local -- that's actually not a bad idea. Affiliates 
could get into the sports game, with local pickups of regional teams, run 
their own movies have all the inventory in them, and/or --gasp -- do local 
original programming.

Peace,

Ann


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From: Sue Trowbridge  <trow@interbridge.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 1:09pm
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 anton@c... wrote:

> We have 70 channels and yet nobody watches TV on Saturdays? 

I am so ancient that I can recall when Saturdays were THE night for TV --
Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart, The Jeffersons, Carol Burnett, Love Boat,
Fantasy Island...(OK, the latter two were perhaps not quite up to the
quality standards of the first four, but they were favorites of the
younger me). I've heard a theory that Sat. night ratings began to decline
after the advent of home video -- people preferred to rent movies instead
of watching network fare. Also, note that HBO's big "premiere night" for
its own films and the most successful Hollywood fare is Saturdays, and I
believe it does quite well in the ratings on that day.

--Sue T.

From: aaron@tvbarn.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 1:31pm
Subject: BBC America terror special

BBC AMERICA PREMIERES
FACING TERROR: UNDERSTANDING THE NEW WORLD 
ORDER
James Rubin hosts a three-hour special exploring what 
happens next

As the U.S. goes to war, BBC AMERICA presents a special night 
of programs tackling the question of what happens next.  Hosted 
by former Assistant Secretary of State, James Rubin, the 
three-hour event turns the spotlight on how the war will play out, 
the changing face of warfare, the emerging new world order and 
the history behind the unfolding conflict. 

ìClearly our world has changed this past month.  Our sense of 
security has been shaken, but working together Britain and 
America have defeated communism, we have defeated fascism 
and in the years ahead, we can surely defeat terrorism,î Rubin 
says.  

Facing Terror: Understanding The New World Order premieres 
on Friday, October 12 at 8:00 p.m. ET, 5:00 p.m. PT and 9:00 
p.m. PT.  It re-airs Sunday, October 14 at 8:00 p.m. ET and 9:00 
p.m. PT and Tuesday, October 16 at 7:00 p.m. ET and 8:00 p.m. 
PT.

FutureWar
The basic job of ordinary soldiers - to defend and attack ñ hasnít 
changed since the worldís first armies were formed. But as 
America goes to war on terrorism, tools, tactics and technology 
deployed by combatants in a new century are shaping an 
altogether different face to armed conflict. 

FutureWar hears from major figures in the U.S. military, whose 
comments have proved chillingly prescient in light of terrorist 
atrocities in the United States. The likes of General Charles 
Krulak, commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps from 1995-99, 
and General Paul Van Riper also of the U.S. Marine Corps, 
predict wars waged in cities, anonymous foes and unorthodox 
means of attack.

Krulak also talks candidly of the need for flexibility and speed of 
thought among his men; deploying methods that included 
marines taking to the trading floors of Wall Street, and the use of 
war laboratories. 

Despite latest hi-tech weaponry, the program questions whether 
America will be tough enough on the ground and willing to 
accept casualties to win the first war of the 21st Century.

HARDtalk Special: New World Order (U.S. Premiere)
As the world waits to see how the war on terrorism develops, 
HARDtalkís award-winning host Tim Sebastian talks to key 
decision makers and opinion formers about the ënew world 
order.í  Guests including Ambassador Dennis Ross, former U.S. 
Envoy to the Middle East, and Mary Robinson, United Nations 
High Commissioner for Human Rights, come under tough 
questioning. 

In a world of shifting alliances, how will we ever solve the global 
problems of war, poverty and climate change?  Will human rights 
abuses be overlooked as world leaders hasten to form an 
international coalition against terrorism?

Afghanistan: The Dark Ages
As U.S. and allied forces begin to strike back, BBC AMERICA 
airs an encore presentation of Afghanistan: The Dark Ages, a 
revealing, all-new documentary analyzing the history of the 
Taliban regime and the context behind the unfolding conflict. It is 
presented from the unique viewpoint of the BBC's veteran war 
correspondent John Simpson, who reports directly from the 
troubled country he has been covering for more than 10 years.

The program takes an in-depth look at what has happened since 
the Russian withdrawal in 1989 and how the country descended 
into civil war.  Simpson, who along with the production team 
crossed the Afghan border in disguise, explains how the Taliban 
came to power and its links with Osama Bin Laden.  The 
documentary also examines the impact of years of heavy fighting 
on the population, cataloguing the extreme punishments carried 
out by rulers on those who break strict Islamic code.  

# # #

BBC AMERICA dares to be different.  It brings U.S. audiences the 
very best of British television from one of the world's leading 
broadcasters.  Viewers can enjoy a vibrant new generation of 
British programs - delivered on a single channel that is bold, 
engaging and often wickedly entertaining.  In a schedule packed 
with U.S. premieres, BBC AMERICA presents a fresh, rich and 
diverse mix of provocative dramas and seriously weird 
comedies, plus live news from around the globe.

BBC AMERICA is distributed by Discovery Networks.  It is 
available on multiple cable systems throughout the U.S. and on 
DirecTV and DISH Network.  For more information about BBC 
AMERICA visit www.bbcamerica.com.

Note to editors:

James Rubin served under President Clinton as Assistant 
Secretary of State for Public Affairs. He was appointed by 
Secretary of State, Madeleine K. Albright, as the departmentís 
chief spokesman. 

He lives in London with his wife, CNN correspondent, Christiane 
Amanpour.

From: kurtbw@mac.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:15pm
Subject: Remote Patrol: Afghanistan: The Dark Ages tonight 10p

BBC America has seen it fit to rerack *Afghanistan:  The Dark 
Ages* tonight at 10:00p ET.  This is according to my TV Guide 
onscreen program listing through AT & T Broadband.

I'm not one to make blatant plugs.  However, this program, part 
of the BBC *Panorama* series, forces me to make one.  It is 
easily the best broadcast journalism on the air this year.

The correspondent who put this documentary together, John 
Simpson, first visited Afghanistan in 1989, and has made a 
number of return trips.  In this program, he provides a 
perspective sorely lacking on American television.  He's put 
together a program the way CBS News used to in its heyday, for 
those of us old enough to remember.

Here's the BBC News link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panora
ma/newsid_1577000/1577677.stm

(may have to cut and past to fit in your browser)

Kurt Weinschenker

From: Anthony Foglia  <afoglia@physics.ucsb.edu>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:33pm
Subject: NBC compra Telemundo

10/11/2001 - Updated 01:43 PM ET
NBC buys Telemundo for $2B

NEW YORK (AP) - NBC announced Thursday that it is buying Telemundo
Communications Group, the No. 2 Spanish-language broadcaster in the United
States, for about $2 billion in cash and stock.

The deal would give NBC a strong foothold in the burgeoning arena of
Hispanic media, which have attracted the attention of major media
conglomerates because of the rapidly growing Hispanic population.

Hispanic media have been expanding even as other media businesses have
slumped because of the poor advertising climate, which was worsened by the
Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

NBC Chairman Bob Wright said the Hispanic market "accounts for a
significant and growing share of the nation's economy and we are eager to
draw on Telemundo's expertise to better serve this important audience."

NBC is paying $1.98 billion for Telemundo in a mix of half cash and half
stock in NBC's corporate parent, General Electric. NBC would also assume
about $700 million in debt.

Sony currently owns about 40% of the closely held Telemundo, while Liberty
Media, a company controlled by cable pioneer John Malone, has a 35% stake.
The rest is held by other investors.

In an interview with CNBC, the business news channel owned by NBC, Wright
acknowledged that before accounting for cost savings, the terms of deal
would be "very expensive."

But he added that the companies expected numerous benefits as they combined
ad sales teams, swapped programs from NBC to use on Telemundo, and made
other cost savings. He said he expected Telemundo to contribute up to $600
million in revenues to NBC within two years.

Telemundo's reach is behind that of leading Hispanic broadcaster Univision
Communications. But Univision has been responding to the competitive threat
from Telemundo and other rivals with plans to launch a second
Spanish-language network, Telefutura, next year.

NBC is believed to have bested a rival bid for Telemundo from Viacom, which
in addition to CBS owns MTV, the Paramount studio, Blockbuster and numerous
radio stations. Viacom had already expanded into niche broadcasting with
the purchase of BET, a cable network aimed at black viewers.

The deal is not expected to face major regulatory hurdles.

In addition to the NBC broadcast network, NBC owns CNBC, a half-interest in
news channel MSNBC along with Microsoft, as well as a minority stake in
Paxson Communications, owner of the family-friendly PAX broadcast network.

NBC plans to keep the current management of Telemundo in place, including
CEO Jim McNamara, who will report to NBC President Andrew Lack, as well as
Telemundo's chief operating officer Alan Sokol.

From: gjangelo@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:39pm
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

Here's a thought for all networks that need to save $$$....

Just like Fox, program 2 hours of primetime per night rather than 3! 
Move your news up and then follow it with your late night shows. 
Kilborn, Conan and P.I. might actually grow an audience.

From: gjangelo@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:41pm
Subject: Re: Osama & the evil genius Bert...

another version of the tale... lots of cross-referenced links to 
follow out for more fun. :)

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11687

From: aaron@tvbarn.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:50pm
Subject: Sports shorts

Two programs of note:

REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL presents more 
provocative stories when it returns TUESDAY, OCT. 16 (10:00 
p.m. ET/PT and 9:00 p.m. CT) on HBO.

Segments include:

* Ephedrine.  The dietary supplement Ephedrine has come 
under public scrutiny after being named in the autopsy reports of 
three football players who collapsed and died on the field this 
year.  The concern of experts and doctors that Ephedrine may put 
a dangerous strain on an athlete's heart has led the NFL to ban 
the substance, but the over-the-counter product is still available 
to any young athlete hoping to get an edge on the competition. 
REAL SPORTS examines the case of Shane Garrett, a 
22-year-old former body builder from Kansas who suffered a 
heart attack while using a product containing Ephedrine and is 
now permanently disabled.

Plus Bernard Goldberg travels to Northern Ireland and visits a 
youth sports camp for Protestants and Catholics that fosters 
unity and understanding in these tense times; James Brown 
goes west and profiles 49'ers quarterback Jeff Garcia's rise to 
stardom and  Mary Carillo tells the story of Mark Bingham, 31, a 
passenger on the Sept. 11th United flight #93, who lived an 
inspiring life filled with athletic achievement.

--------------------------------------

Watch the return of Michael Jordan on TBS Superstation and 
TNT this week as the networks air his first two games of the 
season.  TBS will televise Jordan's regular season opener on 
Tues., Oct. 30, at 7:30 p.m. (ET), beginning with a 30-minute 
preview show, NBA Tip-Off '01. Following the Wizards/Knicks 
game, TBS will air the Portland Trail Blazers at LA Lakers.  In 
addition, TNT will air his second game as the Wizards visit the 
Hawks on Thurs., Nov. 1, at 8 p.m.   This season TNT and TBS 
will air a total of 79 games, which will air every Tuesday (TBS), 
Wednesday and Thursday (TNT). This is the 18th consecutive 
year that Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.'s networks will 
televise the NBA, and the eighth straight season that games will 
appear on both networks.

From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:53pm
Subject: RE: Sports shorts

> Two programs of note:
> 
> REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL presents more 
> provocative stories when it returns TUESDAY, OCT. 16 (10:00 
> p.m. ET/PT and 9:00 p.m. CT) on HBO.
> 
> Segments include:
> 
> * Ephedrine.  The dietary supplement Ephedrine has come 
> under public scrutiny after being named in the autopsy reports of 
> three football players who collapsed and died on the field this 
> year.  The concern of experts and doctors that Ephedrine may put 
> a dangerous strain on an athlete's heart has led the NFL to ban 
> the substance, but the over-the-counter product is still available 
> to any young athlete hoping to get an edge on the competition. 
> REAL SPORTS examines the case of Shane Garrett, a 
> 22-year-old former body builder from Kansas who suffered a 
> heart attack while using a product containing Ephedrine and is 
> now permanently disabled.
> 
> Plus Bernard Goldberg travels to Northern Ireland and visits a 
> youth sports camp for Protestants and Catholics that fosters 
> unity and understanding in these tense times; James Brown 
> goes west and profiles 49'ers quarterback Jeff Garcia's rise to 
> stardom and  Mary Carillo tells the story of Mark Bingham, 31, a 
> passenger on the Sept. 11th United flight #93, who lived an 
> inspiring life filled with athletic achievement.

Will Jeff Garcia say dirty words that that Buchananite Phil Mushnick will
object to in his TV Guide and New York Post columns?

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...

From: Sue Trowbridge  <trow@interbridge.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:09pm
Subject: This is soooo tasteless...

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer 

[T]he chief of CBS said Thursday he's already been pitched a potential
television series keyed to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks: a romantic
comedy about two people who lost spouses at the World Trade Center.
[...]
Producers who were developing an idea about a romantic comedy involving a
middle-aged couple changed it to make the two lead characters people who
had lost spouses in the attack, said CBS President Leslie Moonves. He
wouldn't identify who pitched him the idea. 

CBS is considering the series, which wouldn't be on the air until next
fall at the earliest. 

``This could be easily changed so that it has nothing to do with the World
Trade Center,'' Moonves said. ``Is it exploitive to do something like
that? Not if it's handled properly.''

From: anton@catalystinternet.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:03pm
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

--- In tvbarn2@y..., gjangelo@y... wrote:
> Here's a thought for all networks that need to save $$$....
> 
> Just like Fox, program 2 hours of primetime per night rather than 3! 
> Move your news up and then follow it with your late night shows. 
> Kilborn, Conan and P.I. might actually grow an audience.

I love it, but when you think about it, they've almost already done
that with news "magazine" shows.  It's just that instead of being at
10 PM (EST or whatever), they're scattered.

From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:06pm
Subject: RE: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

> > Here's a thought for all networks that need to save $$$....
> > 
> > Just like Fox, program 2 hours of primetime per night 
> rather than 3! 
> > Move your news up and then follow it with your late night shows. 
> > Kilborn, Conan and P.I. might actually grow an audience.
> 
> I love it, but when you think about it, they've almost already done
> that with news "magazine" shows.  It's just that instead of being at
> 10 PM (EST or whatever), they're scattered.

And what critics would call for would be a nightly prime time news hour at
10 p.m. ET (of course, more like "Nightline" than the nightly news shows or
the magazine shows).  The idea of local news being given a whole hour scares
them (although I assume the idea stated above would be to have Dave, Jay and
"Nightline" starting at 10:35 p.m. ET instead of, say, 11 p.m. ET, like all
of Fox's attempts at late-night (including "MAD TV").

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...

From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 11:14am
Subject: Re: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

In a message dated 10/11/01 16:08:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mjeffries@k... writes:


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > Here's a thought for all networks that need to save $$$....
> > > 
> > > Just like Fox, program 2 hours of primetime per night 
> > rather than 3! 
> > > Move your news up and then follow it with your late night shows. 
> > > Kilborn, Conan and P.I. might actually grow an audience.
> > 
> > I love it, but when you think about it, they've almost already done
> > that with news "magazine" shows.  It's just that instead of being at
> > 10 PM (EST or whatever), they're scattered.
> 
> And what critics would call for would be a nightly prime time news hour at
> 10 p.m. ET (of course, more like "Nightline" than the nightly news shows or
> the magazine shows).  The idea of local news being given a whole hour scares
> them (although I assume the idea stated above would be to have Dave, Jay and
> "Nightline" starting at 10:35 p.m. ET instead of, say, 11 p.m. ET, like all
> of Fox's attempts at late-night (including "MAD TV").
> 

With at least four time-zones to program for, wouldn't that be pretty tough? 

Incidentally, I read a proposal online to reduce the number of time-zones 
across the continental U.S. to two -- combining Eastern and Central, and 
combining Mountain and Pacific, so that the largest timezone difference would 
be two hours. Essentially one half of the country would be on permanent 
standard time and one on permanent daylight time.  
http://www.standardtime.com/   I am not advocating it, but it would be 
interesting, in terms of TV programming for one thing.

Peace,

Ann


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From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:17pm
Subject: RE: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

> > And what critics would call for would be a nightly prime 
> time news hour at
> > 10 p.m. ET (of course, more like "Nightline" than the 
> nightly news shows or
> > the magazine shows).  The idea of local news being given a 
> whole hour scares
> > them (although I assume the idea stated above would be to 
> have Dave, Jay and
> > "Nightline" starting at 10:35 p.m. ET instead of, say, 11 
> p.m. ET, like all
> > of Fox's attempts at late-night (including "MAD TV").
> > 
> 
> With at least four time-zones to program for, wouldn't that 
> be pretty tough? 

Not that much, considering that the nightly news shows, the morning shows
and "Nightline" air on delay in the Mountain and Pacific time zones,
anyway--and except for West Coast sports, there's usually nothing happening
between a 10 p.m. ET telecast and a 1 a.m. telecast for the West Coast.

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...

From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 11:20am
Subject: Re: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

In a message dated 10/11/01 4:45:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mjeffries@k... writes:


> Not that much, considering that the nightly news shows, the morning shows
> and "Nightline" air on delay in the Mountain and Pacific time zones,
> anyway--and except for West Coast sports, there's usually nothing happening
> between a 10 p.m. ET telecast and a 1 a.m. telecast for the West Coast.

I suppose then you're right -- a "Nightline" type format would work better 
than a "nightly news" format which can get pretty free-wheeling from the desk 
if news is breaking.

--Ann



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From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:22pm
Subject: RE: Remote Patrol: Afghanistan: The Dark Ages tonight 10p

> BBC America has seen it fit to rerack *Afghanistan:  The Dark 
> Ages* tonight at 10:00p ET.  This is according to my TV Guide 
> onscreen program listing through AT & T Broadband.
> 
> I'm not one to make blatant plugs.  However, this program, part 
> of the BBC *Panorama* series, forces me to make one.  It is 
> easily the best broadcast journalism on the air this year.

<snip>

> Here's the BBC News link:
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panora
> ma/newsid_1577000/1577677.stm

On one of the pages of "Panorama" is this credo for the series, which has
been on the air for over 50 years:

Panorama's job is to investigate and uncover stories about Britain and the
world. The range of stories that the programme covers is wide but the
guiding principles for Panorama are always the same: 

To make programmes with authority which make waves and withstand scrutiny. 
To report the world we live in with a depth of understanding often missing
in many other programmes. 
To scrutinise the use and abuse of power, both public and private. 
To get to stories first. 
To make the stories we tell relevant, accessible and engaging for the
audience. 
To treat fairly the people with whom we deal.

---------------

Something which every news organization should have as their credo.

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...

From: Pollak, Melissa  <mpollak@nsf.gov>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:45pm
Subject: RE: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

"The Golden Girls" was the last series worth watching on Saturday nights --
so Saturdays have indeed been a network wasteland for nearly a decade.  As
Sue said, what a contrast with the golden years of the 1970s (which in
addition to MTM and Newhart, also had All in the Family).

For me, if the tube's on on Saturday in my place, it's on an admitted guilty
"pleasure" -- Cops and America's Most Wanted!

Melissa

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sue Trowbridge [SMTP:trow@i...]
> Sent:	Thursday, October 11, 2001 2:10 PM
> To:	tvbarn2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [tvbarn2] ABC may drop Saturday nights!
> 
> 
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 anton@c... wrote:
> 
> > We have 70 channels and yet nobody watches TV on Saturdays? 
> 
> I am so ancient that I can recall when Saturdays were THE night for TV --
> Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart, The Jeffersons, Carol Burnett, Love Boat,
> Fantasy Island...(OK, the latter two were perhaps not quite up to the
> quality standards of the first four, but they were favorites of the
> younger me). I've heard a theory that Sat. night ratings began to decline
> after the advent of home video -- people preferred to rent movies instead
> of watching network fare. Also, note that HBO's big "premiere night" for
> its own films and the most successful Hollywood fare is Saturdays, and I
> believe it does quite well in the ratings on that day.
> 
> --Sue T.
> 
> 
> 
> TVBarn2: America's funniest TV chat room.
> Goodbye: tvbarn2-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
>  
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
>

From: Michael Jones  <spikej555@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 4:57pm
Subject: RE: This is soooo tasteless... (Just shoot me)

Producers who were developing an idea 
about a romantic comedy involving a
middle-aged couple changed it to make the 
two lead characters people who
had lost spouses in the attack said CBS 
President Leslie Moonves. He
wouldn't identify who pitched him the idea.   


 

It was probably NBC president Robert Wright 
again.

Wright also suggested CBS also do a 
sitcom about Afghani women putting out a fashion magazine in Kabul. 


 

 

Michael

 

 

 

--- Original Message ----- 


From: Sue Trowbridge  


To: TVBarn2 

Sent: 10/11/01 1:02:56 PM 

Subject: [tvbarn2] This is soooo 
tasteless...



By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer 


[T]he chief of CBS said Thursday he's already been pitched a 
potential
television series keyed to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks: a 
romantic
comedy about two people who lost spouses at the World Trade 
Center.
[...]
Producers who were developing an idea about a romantic 
comedy involving a
middle-aged couple changed it to make the two lead 
characters people who
had lost spouses in the attack, said CBS President 
Leslie Moonves. He
wouldn't identify who pitched him the idea. 

CBS is 
considering the series, which wouldn't be on the air until next
fall at the 
earliest. 

``This could be easily changed so that it has nothing to do 
with the World
Trade Center,'' Moonves said. ``Is it exploitive to do 
something like
that? Not if it's handled properly.''






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From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 5:38pm
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

At 05:51 PM 10/11/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>I guess not everyone can be like Comedy Central and develop
>innovatively CHEAP programming, such as "Insomniac", which is just
>Dave Attell and a single handheld camera.  Or "Let's Bowl" which is
>basically just two guys  (one doing a cheap Paul Lynde imitation) at a
>bowling alley.  Or do the networks feel it's beneath them?

Personally, I don't know why the networks feel the need to take someone 
like, oh, Emeril - and make him do a sit com.  Why not do a prime time 
cooking show?  It couldn't be any WORSE and it would be a heckuva lot cheaper.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: Nichols, Gary  <gnichols@wfaanews.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 5:54pm
Subject: ABC schedule revision

ABC TELEVISION NETWORK ANNOUNCES SCHEDULE CHANGES 

The ABC Television Network today announced changes to its primetime line-up.


As of October 24, "Bob Patterson" moves to its new day and time period,
Wednesdays at 9:30 p.m. following "The Drew Carey Show." The season premiere
of "The Job" will be held for mid-season. As of Tuesday, November 6, "Spin
City" moves to its new time period, 8:30 p.m., and "NYPD Blue" returns that
evening with a special 2-hour season premiere at 9:00 p.m. As of Tuesday,
November 13, "NYPD Blue" will lead in to "Philly," which remains unchanged
at 10:00 p.m. 

Following are the schedules for Tuesday night for the next few weeks. The
regular Tuesday night schedule will be in place as of November 13: 

Tuesday, October 16 

8:00 p.m. Dharma & Greg 

8:30 p.m. Dharma & Greg (R) 

9:00 p.m. Spin City 

9:30 p.m. Bob Patterson (one time only) 10:00 p.m. Philly 

Tuesday, October 23 

8:00 p.m. Dharma & Greg 

8:30 p.m. Dharma & Greg (R) 9:00 p.m. 

Spin City 9:30 p.m. Spin City (R) 10:00 p.m. 

Philly 

Tuesday, October 30 

8:00 p.m. 

It's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown (one time only) 

8:30 p.m. Boo! To You Too Winnie the Pooh (one time only) 

9:00 p.m. Spin City 

9:30 p.m. Dharma & Greg (one time only - Halloween episode)

Tuesday, November 6 

8:00 p.m. Dharma & Greg 

8:30 p.m. Spin City (new time period premiere) 

9:00 p.m. NYPD Blue (2-hour season premiere) 

Tuesday, November 13 (begins regular line-up) 

8:00 p.m. Dharma & Greg 

8:30 p.m. Spin City 

9:00 p.m. NYPD Blue 

10:00 p.m. Philly 



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From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 6:06pm
Subject: RE: ABC schedule revision

> ABC TELEVISION NETWORK ANNOUNCES SCHEDULE CHANGES 
> 
> The ABC Television Network today announced changes to its 
> primetime line-up.
> 
> 
> As of October 24, "Bob Patterson" moves to its new day and 
> time period,
> Wednesdays at 9:30 p.m. following "The Drew Carey Show." The 
> season premiere
> of "The Job" will be held for mid-season.

Not good news for "The Job."  The curse of being too different.

 As of Tuesday, 
> November 6, "Spin
> City" moves to its new time period, 8:30 p.m., and "NYPD 
> Blue" returns that
> evening with a special 2-hour season premiere at 9:00 p.m. As 
> of Tuesday,
> November 13, "NYPD Blue" will lead in to "Philly," which 
> remains unchanged
> at 10:00 p.m. 

So much for the "Blue/L&O" war.  Who's going in that slot--"Downtown" or
"Millionaire?"

And will Reed Irvine and Donald Wildmon make a big stink about "Blue" being
on at 9 p.m.?

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...

From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 6:10pm
Subject: Re: ABC schedule revision

While it was smart to move NYPD Blue out of the path of Law and Order, I
wonder if the 9 p.m. slot will mean the show will have to be toned down.

 Already, Dick Wolf has complained that L&O: Criminal Intent is not a 9 p.m.
show.

From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:15pm
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

In a message dated 10/11/2001 3:47:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
osiris@i... writes:


> .  Why not do a prime time 
> cooking show?  It couldn't be any WORSE and it would be a heckuva lot 
> 

I imagine the networks may see this when UPN airs its IRON CHEF special... I 
know I could go for some primetime PUKKA TUKKA...

And speaking of cooking shows... Not only did NBC announce it is developing a 
sitcom to star Patrick Dempsey as a sous chef, but I think on this week's 
friends Phoebe dates a sous chef...

~


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From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:49pm
Subject: Re: This is soooo tasteless... (Just shoot me)

>Producers who were developing an idea about a romantic comedy involving a
>middle-aged couple changed it to make the two lead characters people who
>had lost spouses in the attack said CBS President Leslie Moonves. 

I'd like to suggest the title "Barney and the Rubble."




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From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:05pm
Subject: Bad Presidential Timing...

Bah, shouldn't Bush be watching FRIENDS or the SURVIVOR premiere? Wonder how 
this will affect ratings with him eating up at least 40 minutes of time in 
the middle of primetime...


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From: Sue Trowbridge  <trow@interbridge.com>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:15pm
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 SeanJordan@a... wrote:

> > .  Why not do a prime time 
> > cooking show?  It couldn't be any WORSE and it would be a heckuva lot 
> 
> I imagine the networks may see this when UPN airs its IRON CHEF special... I 
> know I could go for some primetime PUKKA TUKKA...

Actually, I'll bet Jamie "The Naked Chef" Oliver would make a better
subject for a sitcom than Emeril. He's younger, cuter, hipper -- he is
even the drummer for a pop band (Scarlet Division). Lots of potential for
wacky fun!

--Sue T.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 4:08pm
Subject: Survivor The Next Generation

Survivor The Next Generation
by Thomas Allen Heald

CBS will have sent "The Agency" to my door by the time you read this, so I'd 
better write fast and head for somewhere safe where no one will look for me, 
like "Wolf Lake."

Like the previous runs, security is tight when it comes to anything involving 
"Survivor III" So tight that the "informative" preview show last Thursday was 
neither informative nor that much of a preview.

But while snoop sites can look for white puffs of smoke, torch placement, and 
other red herrings for clues about who's voted off next, the real code has 
been cracked and we can now reveal not only who the winner of Survivor III 
is, but the victors of the as-yet-uncast fourth and fifth series as well. 

The winner of "Survivor (III): Africa" is 24-year-old African-American 
Detroit basketball coach Clarence Black.     

Why? Survivor's universe is like the Star Trek series ... only backward.

*

"Enterprise" has Quantum-Leaping Captain Archer, an attractive soulless 
Vulcan assistant, forced alliances, the warlike Klingons, an unsure ship, and 
a cameo from James Cromwell.

"Survivor (I): Borneo" had corporate-training Captain Richard Hatch, Kelly 
Wiggleworth, forced alliances, the warlike Tagi tribe, an unsure concept, and 
a cameo from Sonja Christopher. 

*

"Star Trek: Voyager": relatively bland Kate Mulgrew, crew trying desperately 
trying to get home, impossibly tall hologram doctor, cheesy looking ship, and 
a lot of vomiting from the audience until sexy Jeri Ryan appears.  

"Survivor Australia": bored housewife Tina Wesson, crew trying desperately 
trying not to get sent home, impossibly tall singer songwriter Mitchell 
Olsen, Pontiac Aztec, and a lot of vomiting from the audience anytime sexy 
Jeri Mathney appears.   

*

"Star Trek: Deep Space Nine": shape-shifting security officer, darker more 
evil show ends up being kinda pointless, and overshadowed by previous series, 
Trek's first black captain Avery Brooks.  

"Survivor Africa": motive-shifting insecure alliances, dryer, more humid, 
more evil challenges, Survivor's first black winner the aptly named Clarence 
Black. 

* 

Thus Survivor 4: Tahiti will reinvigorate the franchise, the winner will be 
an older bald British guy, and every challenge will be won by a whiny little 
teenager. It will also be the first time androids are allowed to audition.

And in "Survivor 5: Wherever" the winner will have a toupee, speak haltingly, 
try and have sex with all the female castaways, and all of them will be flown 
to the location courtesy of Priceline.com.

But I fear I've said too much already. And they're already trying to knock 
down my door. Tell ... Sue ... Hawk ... I'm ... sorry.... GSPPxht...


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From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 4:38pm
Subject: Re: Bad Presidential Timing...

In a message dated 10/11/01 20:06:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
SeanJordan@a... writes:


> Bah, shouldn't Bush be watching FRIENDS or the SURVIVOR premiere? Wonder how 
> this will affect ratings with him eating up at least 40 minutes of time in 
> the middle of primetime...

Broadcasting and Cable seems to agree with you. They had a little article 
about how hard it was for CBS. Hey! Try being a FOX affiliate, with a delayed 
game start...that means an even later end time than last night, and a local 
news team hanging out all night to do their bit. Yikes!

--Ann



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From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 5:04pm
Subject: Survivor III : Penmanship 0

I didn't think it was possible to screw up any of the names in Survivor 
tribal council scrawlings this season.... until i saw the word "CLANENCE"


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From: schwartz@anythink.org
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 9:42pm
Subject: ABC, Peter Jennings, Rush Limbaugh and the middle east - question

Ok so maybe I'm digging here, but as I watch the Minefield special I'm 
reminded of the recent flap up against Peter Jennings. 

If you remember, back about a month ago, Peter Jennings came under 
attack ( http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/jennings.htm ) from the 
listeners  of Rush Limbaugh's show for appearing to be anti-american, 
pro-arab and generally a nasty person. Rush's audience inundated 
Jennings with crass letters and voicemails, thanks in part to the 
broadcast of Jennings' contact information. 

Well, this week, as everyone is commenting on the irony of Limbaugh 
losing his hearing, I can't seem to remember seeing anything about it 
on world news tonight. Am I wrong? Did ABC news kill ths story in 
retaliation? 

I ask not because I care a whit about Limbaugh, so don't go all 
ditto-head on me. I'm just curious if a little game in being played.

schwartz
http://www.anythink.org

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 5:48pm
Subject: Re: ABC, Peter Jennings, Rush Limbaugh and the middle east - question

>Well, this week, as everyone is commenting on the irony of Limbaugh 
>losing his hearing, I can't seem to remember seeing anything about it 
>on world news tonight. Am I wrong? Did ABC news kill this story in 
>retaliation? 

Well, since Jennings hosts World News Tonight and not Entertainment Tonight, 
I'm sure they actually had important things to report on. Like, um, that 
whole war thingy.




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From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 10:32pm
Subject: Latenight repeats...

Hmmm, it just struck me that none of the latenight talkshows are going to be 
too quick to show repeat episodes from 9/10 or before anytime soon... I know 
Aaron or someone brought up that the late-late night CONAN episodes were now 
rebroadcasts of that night's episode, but did anyone connect the fact that 
it's probably because of last month's events?
I can't imagine any of the shows want to show their broadcasts with bumbling 
President Bush press conferences, let alone backdrops that unfortunatly 
feature the WTC buildings...

Sean


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From: Laurel Krahn  <laurel@windowseat.org>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 2:44am
Subject: Re: Latenight repeats...

On 10/12/2001 at 3:32 AM SeanJordan@a... wrote:

> I know  Aaron or someone brought up that the late-late night CONAN
episodes were
>now  rebroadcasts of that night's episode, but did anyone connect the fact
that 
>it's probably because of last month's events?

The late Conan reruns are now back to being a week delayed like they were
before, by the way.

--
Laurel Krahn | www.windowseat.org | www.tvpicks.net

From: Laurel Krahn  <laurel@windowseat.org>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 2:46am
Subject: Re: Bad Presidential Timing...

On 10/11/2001 at 8:05 PM SeanJordan@a... wrote:

>Bah, shouldn't Bush be watching FRIENDS or the SURVIVOR premiere? Wonder
>how this will affect ratings with him eating up at least 40 minutes of
time in 
>the middle of primetime...

Sure, I go to my Tivo to see how Ross reacts to the Big News and all I get
is a speech from the President.  Grrrrrrr.

Now I'll never know!

(Oh wait, I bet NBC will rerun it pretty soon.  And then it'll be rerun ad
nauseum in syndication eventually, too)

--
Laurel Krahn | www.windowseat.org | www.tvpicks.net

From: BFWhalen  <bfwhalen3@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 5:59am
Subject: Invisible Man visible

Hey folks,

I'm afraid we need more than a post on TVBarn2 to
confirm the cancelation of "The Invisible Man."
Verification from The Sci-Fi Channel would be helpful.
In the meantime, news of this so-called cancelation
has not been reported by any credible TV news site.

I can understand why the show would be canceled. It
hasn't been very good lately. But we need facts, not
rumors, before assigning it to the trash bin.

From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:28am
Subject: Re: Invisible Man visible

Well, the original post was from a member of the cast.  It appears that the
protests might have an impact (one post said a decision would be made 0ct.
15).

 From the scifi.com IM board which is at

http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/1831


Date: 10/11/2001 
From: KarlSCIFI 

Everyone, 

I wanted to let you know that, contrary to what you may have heard, no
official decision has yet been made regarding The Invisible Man's returning
for another season. When we have more information, we will pass it along to
you. 

If you would like to make your voice heard on this issue, I invite you to
join in an online chat tonight with Thomas Vitale, who is SCI FI's Senior
Vice President of Acquisitions, Scheduling, and Program Planning. The chat
is tonight (Thursday, Oct. 11) at 8 p.m. ET. 

You can find out more information on our chat page at:
http://www.scifi.com/chat 

Thank you, 
Karl 
Community Producer 
SCIFI.COM  

 From the chat:

<Moderator> <InvisibleStarvedChocobo> Mr. Vitale, many people here have
Invisible in front of their names, as you've undoubtedly noticed. This is in
response to disturbing news about The Invisible Man, mainly that the future
of the show is in serious jeopardy, and was actually cancelled briefly. We
are all wondering, will I-Man be renewed for a third season? 

<Thomas-Vitale> Ahhh... I knew that would be the first question of the
evening... 

<Thomas-Vitale> I'm an Invisible Man fan myself, and I think the show gets
stronger with every episode. 

<Thomas-Vitale> We are in the process of figuring out next year's full
schedule and IMan is on the list of strong contenders. 

<Thomas-Vitale> Unfortunately, I don't have a firm answer today, but we are
hopeful that it will be back. 

<Thomas-Vitale> The issue is for Sci Fi and for syndication too, where the
show is also seen (on local stations), so the decision is not entirely in
Sci Fi's hands on this one... 

<Thomas-Vitale> As soon as we know what the resolution will be and the
timing, we'll let you know through the site.

From: Evan Stokley  <evanstok@freenet.fsu.edu>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:50am
Subject: Re: ABC, Peter Jennings, Rush Limbaugh and the middle east - question

Did CBS or NBC mention it on their evening news programs?  I know
Today on NBC ran a piece on it.

Evan


>Well, this week, as everyone is commenting on the irony of Limbaugh 
>losing his hearing, I can't seem to remember seeing anything about it 
>on world news tonight. Am I wrong? Did ABC news kill ths story in 
>retaliation?

From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 7:07am
Subject: Re: ABC, Peter Jennings, Rush Limbaugh and the middle east - question

I forget if I saw a story on it on the local news or one of the national
newscasts.  But if ABC didn't run a story on it, I doubt it would be because
of anything personal between Jennings and Rush.

 As Tom pointed out, there is more important news they have to stuff into a
half hour (or an hour in the case of NBC recently).

  Last Friday, I didn't see any mention of that it was a year after
Milosevic was ousted in Yugoslavia.  You would think that was a bit more
important than a talk show host's hearing problems (particularly since it
was related to the last war - how quickly things are forgotten).

From: Tom  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 7:32am
Subject: Remote Patrol: Bring me the fig leaf of Fred Willard!

VH1's 5-hour miniseries "Say it Loud: A Celebration of Black Music in America" airs in its entirety starting at 6 PM.

	MTV's "Anatomy of A Crime" a dramatization of the events leading up to and the beating death of Matthew Shepard, seems to air on an almost weekly basis in the overnight hours on weekends. On this, the three year anniversary of Shepard's death, the TV-movie airs tonight at 7 PM (somewhat prime time for MTV).

	On "Mole II: The Next Betrayal" (8 PM) Anderson cooper makes his charges trade their journals. They push him into a lake. This just don't happen on Survivor, friends.

	CBS' "Ellen" (8 PM) get a haircut. If not watched tonight, Ellen likely gets a pink-slip.

	The WB's "Maybe It's Me" (8:30) rips off an idea that wasn't that new or funny when "Head of the Class" did it -- a performance of "Hair," with alleged giggles about the idea of Fred Willard and Julia Sweeney nude. 

	ABC's "Thieves" (9 PM) find a liver, but no onions. 

	The History Channel's "What Happened After ...?" (9 PM) takes a long strange trip touching on the murder of San Francisco city council member Harvey Milk, the events of Woodstock, and the signing of the  Declaration of Independence

	PBS' Life 360 (10 PM) presents "A Place In Time" and the role of fate, with a story of a raped 14-year-old and a performance from my Jewish boss: Mary Chapin Carpenter.

	If the story of "Mt. Rushmore" (8 PM) interests you, watch the History Channel tonight. It's less boring than actually coming here to see it here in the Black Hills. They recently made "improvements" to the entryway which have resulted in making it uglier, and added parking fees unless you mind walking a ways.
 
	Ripped from the headlines tonight on NBC's "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit " (10 PM) : "My baby, my baby, someone's stole my baby." Makes you wish they still did a Monday night (Tori Spelling) women-in-jeopardy movie doesn't it?

	On the Disney Channel, Debbie Reynolds is a lovable old witch (no, it's not interviews with her casino employees). "Halloweentown 2: Kalabar's Revenge" (8 PM) has her trying to prevent a young spellcaster from turning kids into what their costumes suggest forever.

	BBC America's "So Graham Norton" (11 PM) repeats a grand chat with Honor Blackman and magician David Blaine.

	Dave (11:35ish) has Rose McGowan, (book night with) This American Life's "Sarah Vowell, and Jim Gaffigan begging desperately for people to watch "Ellen," so he doesn't have to join "Yes, Dear."

	"Tenacious D" land visit Conan (12:35ish).

	One of either *NSync or the Backstreet Boys visits Craig (11:35).

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 3:34am
Subject: Re: ABC, Peter Jennings, Rush Limbaugh and the middle east - question

>Did CBS or NBC mention it on their evening news programs?  I know
>Today on NBC ran a piece on it.

They have three hours to fill. Is Inside.com still doing regular talkshow 
and/or news show content listings? I haven't looked there in ages. (With good 
reason)


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From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 7:43am
Subject: Re: ABC, Peter Jennings, Rush Limbaugh and the middle east - question

Inside.com hasn't done the summaries in months (at least).

 The site isn't even working now

http://www.inside.com

 and it may not be around long to judge by the links at medianews

http://www.poynter.org/medianews/

 there may be more news later today.  stay tuned.

From: Jim Ellwanger  <trainman1@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 8:49am
Subject: Re: Latenight repeats...

At 3:32 AM -0400 10/12/01, SeanJordan@a... wrote:
>Hmmm, it just struck me that none of the latenight talkshows are going to be
>too quick to show repeat episodes from 9/10 or before anytime soon... I know
>Aaron or someone brought up that the late-late night CONAN episodes were now
>rebroadcasts of that night's episode, but did anyone connect the fact that
>it's probably because of last month's events?

This week, Conan was back to the regular Monday night repeats, and 
they showed an episode from June 2000.

-- 
Jim Ellwanger <trainman1@m...>
<http://trainman1.home.mindspring.com/>
"The days turn into nights; at night, you hear the trains."

From: anton@catalystinternet.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 9:57am
Subject: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

--- In tvbarn2@y..., SeanJordan@a... wrote:
> And speaking of cooking shows... Not only did NBC announce it is
developing a 
> sitcom to star Patrick Dempsey as a sous chef, but I think on this
week's 
> friends Phoebe dates a sous chef...

I can hear most of the country saying, to themselves, in unison...

"What's a sous and how do you cook it?"

From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 0:11pm
Subject: Re: Invisible Man visible

At 03:59 AM 10/12/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm afraid we need more than a post on TVBarn2 to
>confirm the cancelation of "The Invisible Man."
>Verification from The Sci-Fi Channel would be helpful.
>In the meantime, news of this so-called cancelation
>has not been reported by any credible TV news site.
>
>I can understand why the show would be canceled. It
>hasn't been very good lately. But we need facts, not
>rumors, before assigning it to the trash bin.

Actually, that post came by way of the show's producer so I'd say it was a 
little more than just "rumor".  There has been something of a reprieve, 
though.  A later posting by the same producer stated that Sci-Fi was 
re-thinking the decision so, to paraphrase the Pythons, "it's not dead 
yet".  But it's having a hard time breathing.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:22am
Subject: Inside.gone

In a message dated 10/12/2001 5:49:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
srhodes@w... writes:

<<  Inside.com hasn't done the summaries in months (at least).
  The site isn't even working now >>

If that's the case, then I guess I can say off the record that I heard from a 
source there yesterday that Brill was expected to file Chapter 11 today...

Sean

From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:24am
Subject: Re: Latenight repeats...

In a message dated 10/12/2001 6:54:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
trainman1@m... writes:

<< This week, Conan was back to the regular Monday night repeats, and 
 they showed an episode from June 2000. >>

Hmmm, well I still wonder if we're going to get anything from Jan - Sept. 
2001 in the whole bumbling Bush phase... I could be wrong. But for instance, 
dont know if anyone is watching PI regularly, but I've never heard the 
audience boo as much as they booed when a guest recently mentioned that Bush 
didn't really win the election...

~

From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:31am
Subject: Re: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

<< I can hear most of the country saying, to themselves, in unison...
  "What's a sous and how do you cook it?" >>

A sous chef is the chef responsible for making sure all a restaurant's items 
are properly seasoned...  It's relatively high up in the chain of food 
stations...

chef-to-be Sean Jordan

From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 2:35pm
Subject: Re: Inside.gone

The site is back up and this is on the medianews site:

BRILL HAS TOLD HIS STAFF that he expects a resolution early next week. "No
story has come close even to touching on the issues that Primedia and I are
discussing and attempting to resolve," he writes in a memo. 

 They also seem to have broken the name of the NBC staffer who tested
postitive for anthrax.  The story is linked from

http://www.poynter.org/medianews/  and I also linked to it from tvbarn.

 inside is still worth visiting daily as long as it lasts.  there are one or
two free stories.

 Well, the site is slow but I imagine it might be because of traffic to the
anthrax story (drudge linked to it too).

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 0:35pm
Subject: Re: Re: ABC may drop Saturday nights!

>> "What's a sous and how do you cook it?"

When I was young, my mother used to read me the books of Dr. Sous all the 
time... I don't think they were cook books.


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From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Inside.gone

>BRILL HAS TOLD HIS STAFF that he expects a resolution early next week. "No
>story has come close even to touching on the issues that Primedia and I are
>discussing and attempting to resolve," he writes in a memo. 

Uh...  war, anthrax, Rush Limbaugh hearing loss? Oh that's right, it's all 
about you.


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From: James Porteous  <porteous@interlog.com>
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:15pm
Subject: 'Roswell' in serious trouble?

A recent email suggests that UPN's Roswell is in serious trouble.

Was the email from  a gloating PR person from The WB? Or an "I-told-you-so" 
type from one of the other networks.

No. It's from the UPN Newsletter, the folks who picked up Roswell from The WB.

Now I'm not suggesting they should lie about the ratings for the premiere 
of Roswell at its new home, but doesn't it seem odd to be so publicly 
pessimistic about a show running on your own network?

James


'Roswell' in serious trouble
While the resurrection for Sarah Michelle Gellar's main character in "Buffy 
the Vampire Slayer" is near permanent, the same might not be true for its 
partner show as "Roswell" pulled in lower than expected ratings in the 
Nielsen's overnight metered market ratings Tuesday night that forced UPN 
into last place behind The WB...




J a m e s P o r t e o u s
Toronto ON
Just because I have an ice-pick in my head doesn't mean I'm a Trotskyite

From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:26pm
Subject: WEST WING Donation: I'm surprised none of us caught this...

I'm sure many of you caught the special pre-season WEST WING episode, which 
began with Martin Sheen and co. saying that the proceeds of the episode would 
be donated to relief efforts...

Well, as the new EW points out that there aren't really any proceeds from a 
regular TV show... GE already donated $10 million to efforts and said they 
weren't donating any advertising dollars from the episode... Aaron Sorkin 
didn't comment for the bit, but a source at Warner Bros. told EW that the 
money will come from a yet-to-be-calculated share of cable residuals, 
international sales, and broadcast syndication fees of the episode. Which 
basically means the charities won't see any money from the episode until at 
least 2004...

Now to see if THIRD WATCH tries the same gimmick this Monday... ;)


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From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:34pm
Subject: Re: WEST WING Donation: I'm surprised none of us caught this...

Am I mis-remembering, or were the future profits pledged to the association 
for widows and orphans of firefighters?

If so, Sean, I don't see an inherent problem in this.  In fact, I'm sure that 
funds distributed in 2004 will have their own meeting, when perhaps the 
families of firefighters will be less in-the-spotlight than now, and needs 
will still arise. 

I don't think myself a WW loyalist, so I hope my opinion isn't colored too 
much by the emotion of the times. I took the gesture not to be saying, "look 
how much money we're pitching in," but rather, "we feel it would be wrong to 
directly profit from this episode." That said, I'm sure Sheen, Lowe and 
company got paid as usual, didn't they?

Peace,

Ann

In a message dated 10/12/01 23:26:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
SeanJordan@a... writes:


> I'm sure many of you caught the special pre-season WEST WING episode, which 
> began with Martin Sheen and co. saying that the proceeds of the episode 
> would 
> be donated to relief efforts...
> 
> Well, as the new EW points out that there aren't really any proceeds from a 
> regular TV show... GE already donated $10 million to efforts and said they 
> weren't donating any advertising dollars from the episode... Aaron Sorkin 
> didn't comment for the bit, but a source at Warner Bros. told EW that the 
> money will come from a yet-to-be-calculated share of cable residuals, 
> international sales, and broadcast syndication fees of the episode. Which 
> basically means the charities won't see any money from the episode until at 
> least 2004...
> 
> Now to see if THIRD WATCH tries the same gimmick this Monday... ;)
> 




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From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:40pm
Subject: Re: WEST WING Donation: I'm surprised none of us caught this...

In a message dated 10/12/2001 8:35:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
symposium1@a... writes:


> Am I mis-remembering, or were the future profits pledged to the association 
> 

Both...
According to the article, "John Spencer stated that profits from the show 
would be donated to the New York Firefighters 9-11 Disaster Relief Fund and 
the New York Police & Fire Widows' & Children's Benefit Fund...

If it was the latter as you mentioned then I could see that being totally 
understandable, though it just seems silly saying they'll give an unspecified 
ammount a few years down the road. Would've been nice if the actors wrote 
over their checks but I imagine we're past that point...

~


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From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 1:52am
Subject: ABC cancels "What About Joan"

According to Variety / Reuters, ABC has pulled "What About Joan" from the 
lineup and is considering yanking "Mole 2" as well.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/va/20011012/100291928500.html


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 1:53am
Subject: Ellen not in danger... go figure

FoxNews.com reports that CBS Entertainment chief Les Moonves is committed to 
The Ellen Show and plans to stick with it, even though initial ratings have 
been moderate. Moonves has apparently told friends that he likes the show, 
likes DeGeneres, and wants to see The Ellen Show work. 




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From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 3:13am
Subject: Anthrax....

Sure... once NBC heard the talboids in Florida had Anthrax, they had to have 
workers at Dateline try and copy it... 


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From: Ben Scripps  <bscripps@voyager.net>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 11:33am
Subject: Re: Ellen not in danger... go figure

This was our prediction around the station before the season began--"The 
Ellen Show" will be this year's "Bette", a show that CBS will not give up 
on, no matter how terrible it is.  Halfway through the season, they may 
replace some of the actors, or just dump some characters and add some new 
ones, but there wasn't a chance in hell "Ellen" would be gone before May...

tomalhe@a... said on [10/13/2001 07:53]

> FoxNews.com reports that CBS Entertainment chief Les Moonves is committed 
> to 
> The Ellen Show and plans to stick with it, even though initial ratings 
> have 
> been moderate. Moonves has apparently told friends that he likes the 
> show, 
> likes DeGeneres, and wants to see The Ellen Show work. 

-----------------------------------------------------
Ben Scripps
Director, 9&10 News at 6 & 11, Sports Overtime
bscripps@v...  http://senshicentral.cjb.net
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DIRECTOR:   Someone who can count backwards with 
            authority and who owns a stopwatch.

From: SeanJordan@aol.com
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 11:05am
Subject: More Funny Tasteless Programming....

I can't imagine this will air as scheduled, but at 8pm tonight NBC is 
scheduled to show a repeat of the SPY TV episode in which "Barbershop 
customers learn they have been infected with a virus." ...

I like the show but it has had some painful moments and I recall this bit was 
one of them. The people who are being pranked almost get violent against what 
is done to them.




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From: Tom  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 4:52pm
Subject: Remote Patrol: Boxing's been good to me, Howard.

Bad news : It's a rather dismal night for TV. Good news: this won't take long to read.

"Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2" (8:30 PM) makes its debut on Showtime. Watch it and you'll feel like you've been hit in the head by Mike Tyson. Afterward, on Showtime Boxing (10 PM) watch Brian Niesen get hit in the head by Mike Tyson. 

The tale of Gary Gilmore is told in HBO's "Shot in the Heart" (9 PM) featuring rising star Giovanni Ribisi.  

Drew Barrymore hosts "Saturday Night Live" (11:30 PM) you never know, she and Tom Green might get married tonight.

From: Sue Trowbridge  <trow@interbridge.com>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 7:27pm
Subject: Dave and Survivors

Does anyone know if Letterman is going to have the Survivor castoffs on
his show this time around? I missed Friday's program, but I did read the
summary on the Late Show web site and it doesn't look like Diane made an
appearance. Since Dave was fairly grudging about it in the past, maybe
he's managed to avoid them now that the show isn't as hot as it once was.
BTW, Diane is scheduled to appear on Kilby's Tuesday broadcast.

--Sue T.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 8:47pm
Subject: SNL

Has Lorne rehired Jean Doumanian?


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From: justin kaplowitz  <tvnutboy@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:23am
Subject: Re: SNL

> Has Lorne rehired Jean Doumanian?

WHAT?!? Was her name in last night's credits or
something? Cause if it was, "may god have mercy on us all!"

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From: bleemer@excite.com
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 11:47am
Subject: Re: Dave and Survivors

The "Parade of Losers" takes place on Mondays. The Friday show is 
taped on Thursday, so they do not have the "Survivor" loser on to 
avoid giving somebody the possibility of leaking that week's result 
before it airs. If the loser doesn't appear on Monday, you can assume 
that Dave is finished with them.

-Tom W

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Sue Trowbridge <trow@i...> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if Letterman is going to have the Survivor 
castoffs on
> his show this time around? I missed Friday's program, but I did 
read the
> summary on the Late Show web site and it doesn't look like Diane 
made an
> appearance. Since Dave was fairly grudging about it in the past, 
maybe
> he's managed to avoid them now that the show isn't as hot as it 
once was.
> BTW, Diane is scheduled to appear on Kilby's Tuesday broadcast.
> 
> --Sue T.

From: Michael Jones  <spikej555@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:17pm
Subject: alert and active (OT)

Generally I think the best response to a feeling of anxiety or 
uncertainty over the very real threat of homeland terrorism to to 
stay alert AND take action when noticing any suspicious activity. 
Allowing ourselves to be paralyzed by fear, aside from just being 
unAmerican, will ultimately not get the job done. I'm writing, of 
course, from personal experience:
Yesterday afternoon I spotted a Middle Eastern looking gentleman in 
his late 30's, perhaps early 40's, at a local Staples store (aisle 
11) attempting to place a box of 500 white wove security envelopes in 
his shopping basket. I immediately notified the store manager of this 
his activity, who in turn contacted local authorities. The potential 
terrorist was eventually taken away for questioning--and due directly 
to my vigilance I believe up to 500 future case of anthrax infections 
was averted. As an added bonus, I was able to purchase the very box 
left behind by this terrorist, which just happened to be the last one 
in stock. Then on Friday, just after noon, I noticed what appeared to 
be a Saudi national with an expired student visa, early to mid 20's, 
lingering a bit too long at our Sizzler's salad bar. He was obviously 
preparing to contaminate the bar. I was seated with my wife at a 
table approx. 10ft. away at the time, vigorously discussing the bleak 
prospects of the Northern Alliance assuming and maintaining sole 
political power in Afghanistan upon the inevitable outster of the 
Taliban. Instead of driving home yet another cogent point, I suddenly 
leapt out of my chair, sprinted toward the foreigner, and tackled him 
without mercy. I kept him pinned to the floor (next to a spilled 
cucumber bowl) for a good 10 minutes, until authorities arrived and 
whisked the foreigner away for questioning. Sometime later the store 
manager personally thanked me, and informed me--among other things--
that the foreigner had already consumed three helpings of 
salad/soup/muffins before attempting to launch his sinister deed. 



Michael

From: Tom  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 4:10pm
Subject: Remote Patrol: These are the Weakest Links

National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice speaks to Lesley Stahl on "60 Minutes" (7 PM) in an interview taped earlier today.

	Bravo's oft-mocked award winning "Inside the Actors Studio" (7 PM) celebrates episode 100 with Gene Hackman and SNL mocker Will Ferrell.

	"For the first time ever on television" Disney presents "The Emperor's New Groove" (7 PM) With up to 40 minutes of commercials!

	Tom Arnold, Carrot Top, Beth Littleford, Harlen Williams, George Wallace, Robert Wuhl, Mo'nique, and Lisa Ann Walter are all NBC's "Weakest Links" (8 PM) tonight, as host Anne Robinson blusters at a group of comedians just as funny as she is.

	Speaking of weak, here's everything you need to know about CBS' "Surviving Gilligan's Island: The Incredibly True Story of the Longest Three-Hour Tour in History" (8 PM): Tina Louise isn't involved; Most of the juicy details have already been told on either an "The E! True Hollywood Story" or "TV Guide Behind the Sitcom Scandals"; they couldn't use any clips from the show and therefore have to reenact clips like on "America's Most Wanted" or "Hard Copy"; and half the cast is dead. But other than that...

	"The Doorbell Rang" for A&E's "Nero Wolfe" (8 PM) with the Stout detective taking on the possibly murderous FBI.

	The Discovery Channel looks at the "Deadliest Job in the World," (8 PM) which is either the censor forced to watch Inside Schwartz" each week or a Bering Sea crab fishermen.

	Both "The E! True Hollywood Story" (8 PM) and VH1's "Behind the Music" (9 PM) sink their claws into the subject of the late Aaliyah. 

	Showtime examines Elizabeth Perkins' breasts, and finds cancer in "What Girls Learn" (8 PM) costarring Scott Bakula.

	Presenting a classy sitcom with the star of "Booty Call" ... the WB's "Men, Women & Dogs" (8:30 PM). A realistic sitcom in which all the women are too uppity and all that to fall for the wooing attempts of a quartet of dawgs with dogs. 

	If you only watch one episode of a Law and order series about a pregnant junkie and a possible incestuous wealthy mother this year ... make it this one. "Law & Order: Criminal Intent." (9 PM) 

	You'd think the E! Channel would have come up with a better name for their "Top ___ sexiest ____ of the week" show than the probably fitting "Rank" (9 PM). This week, who's the hunkiest man in showbiz (that you have no chance of getting)?

	Is the WB's "Nikki" (9 PM) pregnant? What, and lose ratings points for every pound gained?

	The Discovery Channel looks at the sultry curves of a tempting mistress who men will be more than willing to leave their wives for on "Harley-Davidson: Birth of the V-Rod." (9 PM).

	This week on PBS' "American Masters" (9 PM) "F. Scott Fitzgerald: Winter Dreams." Y ou'll find a review on the main TV Barn site. 

	A gun to her head and a hand full of plutonium, just another day for Syd on "Alias" (9 PM).

	Presenting a classy sitcom from the creators and one of the costars from the American Pie flicks ... the WB's "Off Centre" (9:30). A "flawed" couple of Oxford mates try and woo dates in NYC. One's a Brit, the other's a twit. Fancy a shag on our hardwood floor? 

	The Disney Channel has their "Movie Surfers" (9:30) "reviewers" take a look at "Monsters Inc.," the next movie from Disney-Pixar. I wonder if they'll like it?

	Jimmy would quit gambling, but he may get killed by his bookie if he can't pay his debt on ABC's "The Practice" (10 PM). 

	VH1's "Fanclub" takes on the fans who can't get enough of "Destiny's Child" (10 PM). 

	MTV2 has a half hour of "DMX Live in New York." (10 PM) 

	Julia Louis-Dreyfus guest-stars on HBO's "Curb Your Enthusiasm" (10:45 PM). If only Larry David could curb his reliance on Seinfeld cast members.

From: jondelfin@aol.com
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:47pm
Subject: what do you suppose she meant by that?

Just got finished skimming through Friday's "Entertainment [sic] 
Tonight." They did a story on how Hollywood continues to portray 
overweight people badly. One element of the story was an episode of 
"My Wife and Kids," the idea for which came (somehow) from the weight 
gained by Tisha Campbell during her recent pregnancy. In the fantasy 
sequence, all of the family members are enormously overweight. Also 
shown were "positive images" from "The Practice" and "Gilmore Girls," 
and comments from the chair of the SAG Plus-Size Task Force (no, I'm 
not making this up, and by the way, the on-screen graphic said 
Pus-Size, but I digress) about body image and the message Hollywood 
sends and eight-year-olds shouldn't be dieting and so on.

And when it was over, cut to Mary Hart for her wrap-up. I'm 
paraphrasing: Since having her baby, Tisha Campbell has lost all of 
the weight she gained during the pregnancy.

Well, Mary, I guess we know where you stand. That would be just to the 
side of the monitor.

From: replayer@earthlink.net
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 10:52pm
Subject: Re: Anthrax....

On 10/13/01 08:13:53 EDT, tomalhe@a... wrote:

> Sure... once NBC heard the talboids [sic] in Florida had Anthrax, they had to
> have workers at Dateline try and copy it...

Among all the pointless comments and snide "criticism" that have passed for
"insight" on this list, the above must surely rank as the absolute nadir.

An overwhelmingly pointless post, not even remotely amusing even in a "black
humor" sense.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 7:30pm
Subject: Re: Anthrax....

>Among all the pointless comments and snide "criticism" that have passed for
>"insight" on this list, the above must surely rank as the absolute nadir.
>An overwhelmingly pointless post, not even remotely amusing even in a "black
>humor" sense.

Were that the case, then responding to it was absolutely the wrong thing to 
do. And last I checked, we still do have that whole evil Bill of Rights, 
though those First and Fourth Amendments may be taken out any day now if 
terrorists from within have their way. 

The pointed and snide comment was that what Dateline NBC thrived on before 
and to some extent afterwards is the exploitation of human misery and 
sensationalism in the same manner that 10-15 years ago years ago was 
considered the shocking sleaze of A Current Affair, The Enquirer, or say The 
New York "Headless Body Found in Topless Bar" Post.  

In the OJ and Lewinsky era, the Enquirer now follows politics as much as 
Hollywood. And now both the paper tabloids and TV newsmagazines ARE both 
cashing in on the WTC and Pentagon tragedies. It's their stock in trade. They 
can't NOT have a tale of survivors, NYC firemen or bin Laden on every single 
show. 

Despite pleas to "return to normal," the Datelines, 20/20, 60 minutes, 48 
Hours, etc.,  can't return to normal, because either what was normal before, 
now seems infinitely less important, or they can't think of anything truly 
important to explore. 

But yeah, Dateline copying the tabloids having Anthrax is an absurdist 
thought, because it's an expression of how sad things are.

Your turn. 


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From: Tom  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 4:44am
Subject: Remote Patrol: Crimson Dermises vs. Bovine Gathering Young Males

The A&E Biography peels back the layers of makeup to see the true Tammy Faye Bakker (8 PM). 

	NBC's "Third Watch" (8 PM) pretends it's an important series, and goes unscripted (uh, with these actors?) dare-we-say M*AS*H-like bloated two hour tribute all to the real life NYC fireman, policemen and medics it almost honored the previous year with a cameo from Rosie O'Donnell.

	The Crimson Dermises and the Bovine Gathering Young Males battle on ABC's Monday Night Football (9 PM). 

	Marc Summers has the scoop on the origins of ice cream shapes, twin pops, orange-cream bars, and the Good Humor truck on Food Network's "Unwrapped" (9 PM).

	TVLand celebrates the 50th anniversary of "I Love Lucy" with a weeklong marathon (9 PM). It launches the sitcom on this cable channel with all the episodes that haven't aired since... they were shown in 2001 on Nick at Nite. 

	Sundance channel reairs a new documentary "A Union in Wait," (9 PM) a tale of a lesbian wedding covered from all sides with viewpoints ranging from Andrew Sullivan, Barney Frank, and Candace Gingrich, to Robert Knight, Fred Phelps. 

	"That One Particular Fuel Company's Masterpiece Theatre" (9 PM) presents another story from its "American Collection." Peter "The Biscuit" MacNicol and JoBeth Williams star in Eudora Welty's "The Ponder Heart."

	For those missing Ally McBeal, ESPN has ISU Four Continents Championships Figure Skating (9 PM). Oh okay, heterosexual men can watch too. 

	NBC's "Crossing Jordan" (10 PM): strippers! 

	HBO has some unhatched maggot eggs that can free a Boy Scout leader, a mysterious algae, siamese twins and other creepy ideas Larry David wishes he'd had first on "Dead Men Talking: An Autopsy Special" (10:15 PM)

From: BFWhalen  <bfwhalen3@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 6:14am
Subject: Maybe not disappearing yet

Note:

"The Invisible Man" pages on the Sci-Fi website
announce that new episodes of the series will return
in early 2002. The episode guide lists 17 new shows in
the second season. The first season had a pilot and 22
regular episodes. 

It's possible the show has been canceled and Sci-Fi
has failed to update its website. But The Invisible
Man may reappear in January. Many cable shows air
reruns in the fall to avoid conflict with the new
network shows, specials, and sports.

From: pmurray@bigfoot.com
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:20am
Subject: How "Friends" will handle September 11...

...according to Modern Humorist:
http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0110/friends/

Paul Murray
http://www.paulmurray.net

From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:31am
Subject: Re: Maybe not disappearing yet

At 04:14 AM 10/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>"The Invisible Man" pages on the Sci-Fi website
>announce that new episodes of the series will return
>in early 2002. The episode guide lists 17 new shows in
>the second season. The first season had a pilot and 22
>regular episodes.

If you read the original post from the Producer of the show (there seems to 
be a misconception that this is somehow unsubstantiated rumor when it came 
directly from the producers themselves), he states that they will be 
running out their new episodes in January, the usual time for new episodes 
cable networks.  Just because they cancel the show doesn't mean they won't 
run it into the ground.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

"Aha!  You've just made the second biggest mistake!  The first is never get 
involved in a land war in Asia!"
      - Wallace Shawn, "The Princess Bride"

From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 7:04pm
Subject: Nightline half hour tonight, hour rest of the week

From the end of their daily newsletter:

We're a half-hour this evening and a full hour for the rest of the 
week. If you can't watch us live, set your recorders.  Since we follow 
football in the east and midwest, our best guess is NIGHTLINE will begin
between 12:30 and 1 a.m.  But don't hold me to it.  When the Redskins and
Cowboys get together, anything is possible.

Richard Harris
Senior Producer
NIGHTLINE Offices
Washington, D.C. 

You can sign up for the newsletter at

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/nightline_subscribe.html

From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 4:19pm
Subject: Anthrax at ABC, employee's child becomes ill

From the ABC News web site:

<<ABCNEWS officials said that a 7-month-old boy who visited the network's 
headquarters in New York on Sept. 28 contracted the cutaneous form of the 
disease, which officials say is highly treatable.

The boy, who is the son of a freelance news producer, developed a rash, and 
was hospitalized, said ABCNEWS President David Westin. "There were some 
difficulties in diagnosing the disease. The child ended up in the hosipital. 
We learned this evening that the child, in preliminary tests, through blood 
tests and biopsy, has tested positive for cutaneous anthrax.," said Westin.

It is possible that the child got infected elsewhere, but officials were 
being cautions because of other cases in New York and around the country. 
Westin said there was no evidence of anyone else at ABC contracting 
anthrax."We don't know for sure that that was contracted through an exposure 
at ABCNEWS, but we are operating on this assumption at this time," Westin 
said. I

t's the fourth confirmed case of the disease since a worker at American Media 
Inc. in Florida was diagnosed with the deadlier inhaled form of the disease 
on Oct. 5. He died the next day.

A second AMI worker has been infected with anthrax and a third was exposed to 
spores of the bacterium. An NBC News assistant to Tom Brokaw was diagnosed 
with cutaneous anthrax on Friday.>>

Peter Jennings broke into "Millionaire" briefly during the 8-9pm hour to 
deliver this news.

--Ann
    
    



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From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 4:22pm
Subject: Also during Millionaire

I was flipping channels -- honest! -- and lit on "Millionaire" mostly because 
it was a celebrity edition and, wonder of wonders, Bill Maher was on 
Contestant Row. He hasn't made the hotseat yet (Denis Leary was still seated 
when the show ended), but I thought, WOW, that's out of character for Maher. 
I wonder if he's got to play the network's golden boy for a while.

Did anyone catch the beginning?

--Ann


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From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 8:24pm
Subject: RE: Also during Millionaire

> I was flipping channels -- honest! -- and lit on 
> "Millionaire" mostly because 
> it was a celebrity edition and, wonder of wonders, Bill Maher was on 
> Contestant Row. He hasn't made the hotseat yet (Denis Leary 
> was still seated 
> when the show ended), but I thought, WOW, that's out of 
> character for Maher. 
> I wonder if he's got to play the network's golden boy for a while.

Maher's done most of the few game shows nowadays that do celeb shows--most
famously in 1997, when Erik Estrada accidentally smacked him in the face
during a taping of "Pictionary."  It's not that surprising--also, the shows
were taped before Sept. 11.  I remember Denis Leary mentioning doing
"Millionaire" before Sept. 11 and the first show in this group was to air on
Mon. Sept. 17 (this show tonight would've aired originally on Sept. 24).

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...

From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 4:27pm
Subject: Re: Also during Millionaire

In a message dated 10/15/01 21:25:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mjeffries@k... writes:


> Maher's done most of the few game shows nowadays that do celeb shows--most
> famously in 1997, when Erik Estrada accidentally smacked him in the face
> during a taping of "Pictionary."  

Geez, how could I have forgotten about THAT story?

It's not that surprising--also, the shows
> were taped before Sept. 11.  I remember Denis Leary mentioning doing
> "Millionaire" before Sept. 11 and the first show in this group was to air on
> Mon. Sept. 17 (this show tonight would've aired originally on Sept. 24).

Oh. That explains it. Thanks. I thought the Millionaires were fresher than 
that.

--A


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From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 8:34pm
Subject: re: Anthrax at ABC, employee's child becomes ill

KRON in San Francisco broke in during the middle of Nightly News to show
MSNBC's live coverage of the press conference with David Westin and Rudy.

 I'm sure Nightline will have more coverage tonight as will World News Now.

 The NYT has a story

Child of ABC News Employee Being Treated for Anthrax
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/15/national/15CND-DASCH.html

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Tue Oct 16, 2001 0:11am
Subject: on the next Fear Factor...

Host Joe Rogan has the contestants open his fan mail for him.


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From: solmssen@gte.net
Date: Tue Oct 16, 2001 5:34am
Subject: Late Show 10/15

Hi all - 

A couple of references in tonight's Late Show to someone supposed to 
appear who apparently bailed - in particular something about working 
with a monkey.

Any idea who it was?

Best,

---- Andrew

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Tue Oct 16, 2001 2:21am
Subject: Re: Late Show 10/15

> >A couple of references in tonight's Late Show to someone supposed to 
> >appear who apparently bailed -- in particular something about working 
> >with a monkey.

Allegedly rescheduled for tonight.... animal expert Jack Hanna


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