From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 0:34pm
Subject: Re: Re: 'LA Law' Movie: As Seen on TV

> As for the others:

Why are they getting back together? It seems that Rosalind Shays never really 
dies, and both she and original partner Chaney have just been plotting their 
revenge in secret.

From: wszczuka  <whs@hnc.com>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 6:29pm
Subject: On this day... in 1986 on "Diff'rent Strokes"?

I'm usually good at remembering specific years that shows ran and I'm 
pretty shocked Diff'rent Strokes was still on in prime time during 
1986.  Was is still on NBC??

-Bill S.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:00pm
Subject: Re: On this day... in 1986 on "Diff'rent Strokes"?

> I'm usually good at remembering specific years that shows ran and I'm 
>  pretty shocked Diff'rent Strokes was still on in prime time during 
>  1986.  Was is still on NBC??
  
ABC picked it up as of September 1985, for season 8. Dixie Carter soemhow 
turned into Mary Ann Mobley. And the date episode was actually episode 187 
out of 189 so things were really stretching it at that point.

The reruns you might remember were on NBC weekdays from April 1982 to 
December 1983 and from July to September 1984.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:35pm
Subject: Re: Re: CBS show on UPN

> Marking the first time ever that the word "learned" has been 
>  mentioned in connection with the "Police Academy" movies. :)

Well, I'd caught Police Academy 2 on The Movie Channel and forgotten that 
Bobcat was originally a gangleader, before joining the force over the course 
of movie 3.

From: TelevisonGrl@aol.com
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 5:39pm
Subject: TV's Inspector Morse dies

From AP:

<<John Thaw, TV's Inspector Morse, Dies 
Thu Feb 21, 9:03 PM ET By AUDREY WOODS, 
Associated Press Writer 

LONDON (AP) - Actor John Thaw, known to millions of TV viewers worldwide as 
the grumpy, music-loving detective in "Inspector Morse," died Thursday at 60 
after a battle with throat cancer.  

"John died with his family around him" at home, said Thaw's wife of 29 years, 
actress Sheila Hancock.

Thaw was a respected stage actor and had been a leading television actor for 
many years. But was he was indelibly identified with "Inspector Morse" after 
creating a complex character whose flaws appealed to fans as much as his 
better qualities.

The highly praised British series began in 1985 and lasted for 33 two-hour 
episodes that aired over 15 years. "Inspector Morse" had a 13-year run in the 
United States on PBS' "Mystery!" series, beginning in 1988, and was shown in 
many other countries.>> 

The whole story is here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&
u=/ap/20020222/ap_on_re_eu/obit_inspector_morse_5

TVG
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From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:33pm
Subject: Re: More CBS shows on UPN

At 05:13 AM 2/21/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>The "repurposing" begins...
>
>CBS will announce in the next day or two that they will rerun a
>program on UPN. Wish I knew more than that...

UPN has also announced that they will be running all 8 episodes of "Wolf 
Lake" in the post-Enterprise slot, starting in March.  No word on what will 
come in after that.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

From: Jason Snell  <jsnell@intertext.com>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:46pm
Subject: Re: More CBS shows on UPN

The KJB wrote:

>UPN has also announced that they will be running all 8 episodes of "Wolf
>Lake" in the post-Enterprise slot, starting in March.  No word on what will
>come in after that.

Also, apparently New Line is now developing a new "Twilight Zone" 
series. If memory serves, CBS  basically owns "The Twilight Zone." 
But this new pilot is destined for... UPN!

Interesting...

-- 
Jason Snell:  teevee.org - intertext.com - jsnell@i...
Visit TeeVee! http://www.teevee.org/

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From: tomalhe  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:39pm
Subject: Remntoe Patrol: Lullaby and goodnight

FOX's famed WHAFL: We Have A Friday Lineup? presents the 
disappointing movie remake of Lost In Space (8 PM).

	CBS "48 Hours" (8 PM) looks at insomnia, and perhaps finds a 
cure. I know I tend to nod off watching this show. 

	It's all about kids, on ABC's "20/20" (10 PM) with Claire 
Shipman exploring cutting-edge care for premature babies, Barbara 
Walters interviewing a pair of gay men who are raising their birth 
children -- triplets + a race between infertile couples to have a 
baby + and John "The Grinch" Stossel doesn't think millionaire single 
mothers should adopt children. 

	Independent Film Channel tackles serial killers both edgy and 
benign in "Murder by Numbers" (10 PM). The directors of "The Boston 
Strangler," "Hannibal," "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, "Seven" 
stop by to chat over some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

	Nightline senior producer Richard Harris discusses his 
recovery from a stroke, and interviews fellow stroke survivor Gerald 
Ford. 

	Dave has Richard Dreyfuss and Jeff Foxworthy, Jay has himbos 
Josh Hartnett, and skeleton gold medalist Jim Shea Jr. Plus the Goo 
Goo Dolls. 

UNNECESSARY GUEST STAR PATROL
The WB's "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch" (8 PM) Andy Griggs, Barbara 
Eden. Plot: Sabrina's aunt wants her to have an arranged marriage.   
The WB's "Raising Dad" (8:30 PM) Deana Carter. Plot: a father and 
child reunion is only a moment away. 
The WB's "Maybe It's Me" (9:30) Naomi Judd. Plot: Gramma gets a 
funeral while she's still alive.

From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 6:02pm
Subject: 60 Minutes, Face the Nation, CBS Sunday Morning

SUNDAY ON 60 MINUTES:

UNLOCKING PARKINSON�S 
Morley Safer reports on the remarkable relief a surgical treatment
called �deep brain stimulation� can give to sufferers of advanced
Parkinson�s disease.
 
MICHAEL APTED
The British director known for movies like �Coal Miner�s Daughter� and
the latest James Bond and Jennifer Lopez films is most proud of a
documentary he�s been working on for nearly 40 years called �Seven Up.�
 Lesley Stahl reports. 

http://www.firstrunfeatures.com/vid/42dvd.html
 
TOM WELCH
Mike Wallace talks to the man most responsible for Salt Lake City�s
winning bid in the competition to get the 2002 Winter Olympic Games �
an effort that could get Welch indicted for bribery and conspiracy.  
 

 THIS SUNDAY ON FACE THE NATION:

Chief Washington correspondent, Bob Schieffer moderates... 
 
"Face the Nation" will concentrate on the ongoing war against
terrorism.  Is the U.S. still trying to find Osama Bin Laden and Mullah
Omar?  Could Afghanistan drift into factional fighting and civil war? 
And is the Pentagon targeting Iraq?  All questions for Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, this week on Face the Nation...
 

HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR SUNDAY MORNING:

Charles Osgood anchors from New York.
 
SUNDAY ALMANAC: We'll take you back to 1786, the day Wilhelm Grimm�one
half of the Brothers Grimm�was born.
 
It appears what once was a rare exception, may no longer be so. Today,
more and more Americans are living to 100 and beyond - redefining our
notion of what it means to be old.  They are called centenarians and
are the fastest growing segment of our population.  In a special Sunday
Morning cover story, Veteran CBS Newsman Walter Cronkite explores this
new face of old and the 100 years of memories, wisdom and experience
they offer.
 
60 Minutes correspondent Andy Rooney generally avoids talking about
age�especially his own, hoping, as he says, �no one notices.� But he
makes an exception in his essay this Sunday Morning as he addresses 
the �age-old� question: �Is being older better?�  And Joan Rivers adds
her two cents to the debate. One of the points of sage that accompanies
advancing age, she contends, includes the understanding that �sex
doesn't have to be great as long as the hotel you're having it in is.�
 
CBS News Correspondent Bill Whittaker offers a wrap-up of the Winter
Olympic Games.  Plus, third-generation Olympian and gold medallist
Jimmy Shea shares his opinions on age and aging.  And in our Sunday
diversion, Charles Osgood will take you to the city which is playing
host to the Winter Olympics, Salt Lake City, where women athletes stay
in the spotlight  -- at the University of Utah.
 
Photographer Ansel Adams died 18 years ago, but the 100th anniversary
of his birth is Feb. 20, 2002. The Art Institute of Chicago marked this
centennial by opening an exhibit in his honor this week. We�ll  look at
how Adams tried many kinds of photography, including portraits. He also
documented the Depression, but achieved lasting success in black and
white landscape photography. John Blackstone reports.
  
At age 70, Bob Lutz, head of General Motors� American division, still
races sports cars and flies his own fighter jet. Correspondent Anthony
Mason profiles this superstar of the auto industry.  What are the tell
tale signs that you�re over 50?  Bill Geist knows and he�s going to
share them with you�from double pumping when getting out of a chair to
buying your first Cadillac.
 
Contributor Bill Flanagan surveys the nominees for �album of the year�
at this year�s Grammy Awards, including U2�s All That You Can�t Leave
Behind,  India Arie�s Acoustic Soul, and Love & Theft by Bob Dylan. 
And finally as part of our Sunday Passage, we�ll take you to The
Washington Monument which officially reopens this week after a
four-year restoration project.
 
----------------------------- 
  Steve Rhodes
http://www.well.com/~srhodes

contributor to
http://www.tvbarn.com http://www.tvbarn.com/docs/- Docs on TV

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 1:15pm
Subject: Re: Remntoe Patrol: Lullaby and goodnight

> Subj:  [tvbarn2] Remntoe Patrol: Lullaby and goodnight
                            ^^^^^^^^^^
 guess who's not getting enough sleep as it is...

From: The KJB  <osiris@idir.net>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 7:57pm
Subject: Re: More CBS shows on UPN

At 01:46 PM 2/22/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Also, apparently New Line is now developing a new "Twilight Zone"
>series. If memory serves, CBS  basically owns "The Twilight Zone."
>But this new pilot is destined for... UPN!

Yup. I think CBS is figuring out that UPN's long term audience falls a 
little more in line with the Enterprise / Wolf Lake / Twilight Zone goup 
than the Smackdown group.


KJB
Editor, Backstage Pass
http://www.backstage-pass.com
Film Writer, FilmForce.Net
http://filmforce.ign.com

From: thumbsup3@aol.com
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 7:03pm
Subject: Chuck Jones dead at 89

<A HREF="http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/22/chuck.jones.obit/dateline.losangeles.jpg">LOS ANGELES, California</A> (CNN) -- Chuck Jones, creator of some of Warner 
Bros.' most famous characters including the Road Runner, Wile E. Coyote, and 
Pepe Le Pew, died Friday at the age of 89, the Orange County Coroner's office 
said. 

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/22/chuck.jones.obit/


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From: Wes McGee  <DavenportIAS@netscape.net>
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2002 1:40am
Subject: Re: Chuck Jones dead at 89

He was a childhood idol to me. He was one of the few celebrities I ever 
wanted to meet and talk to. He is probably the reason I still make 
little doodles (even though I long displayed my lack of talent!) and 
watch so many cartoon.

Though it took CNN.com about 3 hours to post the story from the time I 
learned about it (from my local news -- WUSA) and read about it on 
cartoonresearch.com

Though, they're doing better that Washingtonpost.com, which as of this 
letter (2:30am) still has no information about him (the site was updated 
at 2:10am). I think their AP feed broke down, since the last digest 
update hasn't occurred since midnight!

--Wesley McGee

thumbsup3@a... wrote:

><A HREF="http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/22/chuck.jones.obit/dateline.losangeles.jpg">LOS ANGELES, California</A> (CNN) -- Chuck Jones, creator of some of Warner 
>Bros.' most famous characters including the Road Runner, Wile E. Coyote, and 
>Pepe Le Pew, died Friday at the age of 89, the Orange County Coroner's office 
>said. 
>
>http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/22/chuck.jones.obit/
>
>
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From: Ben Scripps  <bscripps@voyager.net>
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2002 2:55pm
Subject: Carson Tapes and DVD's

Just curious if anyone's had any experiences with the 'Johnny Carson 
Collection' tapes/DVD's that I see every once in a while (at least here in 
the backwoods of northern Michigan) running as an infomercial.  As in, 
good, bad, worthwhile, not?  Would be nice to supplement the two episodes 
of the original I have on tape now...^_^  Thanks!

--Ben


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Director, 9&10 News at 6 & 11, Sports Overtime
bscripps@v...  http://senshicentral.cjb.net
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      making tomorrow seem like yesterday.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2002 11:32am
Subject: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

> Just curious if anyone's had any experiences with the 'Johnny Carson 
>  Collection' tapes/DVD's that I see every once in a while (at least here in 
>  the backwoods of northern Michigan) running as an infomercial.

I just to happen to have a free subscription to "Response" magazine, "The 
Voice of the Electronic Retailing Association." 

They're doing (what I consider) an interesting multi-part series on "The 
Johnny Carson Collection." Here's a quote from part one : 

(Johnny Carson)  finally said, ‘You can do this, but you have to give people 
the best quality.’ He wanted happy customers — first-class tapes and 
top-notch customer service.”

<http://responsemagazine.com/2002_01/carson.html>
<http://responsemagazine.com/2002_02/carson.html>

From: tomalhe  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2002 6:03pm
Subject: Remote Patrol: Short and Stout

Roald Dahl wrote the script for tonight's ABC "Bond Picture 
Show" : "You Only Live Twice" (8 PM), which explains the scene where 
Blofeld fills with blueberry juice. Unexplained is why former pop 
star Brandy Norwood is introducing clips of "Famous Bond Themes." 

	CNN takes a look at "preemies" with "Babies on the Brink" (8 
PM). 

	Kurt Russell Kevin Costner and Courtney Cox allegedly star in 
the HBO Premiere of the bomb "3000 Miles to Graceland," (8 PM), quite 
possibly the worst Elvis movie of 2001.

	HBO showed 2 episodes of "Six Feet Under" this past 
Wednesday, so they can start the new season sooner. If you missed 
taping the early episode "The Trip," you can catch both repeats on 
HBO Plus, starting at (10 PM).

	While it's nice to have Martin Short's absurd "Primetime 
Glick" (10 PM) back on Comedy Central for a second season, how were 
they able to convince him that Saturday nights (not live) was a 
better timeslot than after "South Park," (currently the home to Dave 
Attel's "Insomniac," a smarter version of the Howard Stern show.) Tom 
"Hank" and Ben Stiller put up with Glick tonight. 

	HBO presents "Jamie Foxx: I Might Need Security" (10:15 PM), 
the comedian's attempt to follow in the footsteps of Eddie Murphy. 
His wacky jokes about AIDS in South Africa, are always a step in that 
direction.

	HBO Boxing (11:15 PM) offers Bantam & Super Bantamweight 
fights tonight with Rafael Marquez Vs. Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson and 
Paulie Ayala Vs. Clarence "Bones" Adams.


UNNECESSARY GUEST STAR PATROL 
Does FOX's "MAD TV" (11:00) need guest stars to compete against 
figure skating on NBC? Melissa Joan Hart, Adam Corolla, Jimmy Kimmel, 
Master P and Insane Clown Posse don't seem to think so.

From: Jay Lewis  <lewisj@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2002 10:25pm
Subject: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

At 05:32 PM 2/23/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > Just curious if anyone's had any experiences with the 'Johnny Carson
> >  Collection' tapes/DVD's that I see every once in a while (at least 
> here in
> >  the backwoods of northern Michigan) running as an infomercial.

I have a 4-tape set of Carson's best.  3 tapes cover each decade of
his career and the 4th is the final show.

It's a great tape set that I pull out every once in a while, when I
need a good laugh.

The two clips that spring to mind is the infamous Ed Ames hatchet
throwing trick (2nd longest laugh in TV history?) and Buddy Hackett
talking about his new boat.  Those are both on tape 1, IIRC.

If you're a Carson fan, you should get them, IMHO.

- Jay Lewis


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From: Wes McGee  <DavenportIAS@netscape.net>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 1:05am
Subject: Cartoon Network to air Chuck Jones tribute at 8pm/et.

From Toonzone News
www.toonzone.net

According to CNN, Cartoon Network will preempt their regular schedule 
tonight from 8-9:30pm et/pt for a Chuck Jones tribute.

--Wes McGee

From: tomalhe  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 6:20am
Subject: Remote Patrol: Flame off!

The NBCOlympics go away, if only the same could be said of 
closing ceremony performers Harry Connick Jr., Christina Aguilera, 
Bon Jovi, and *NSync.

	CBS presents "The Rosa Parks Story" (8 PM) starring Angela 
Bassett, Cicely Tyson and Peter Francis James, a very important movie 
that knows it's a very important movie. Which is why HBO tackled the 
same story LAST year. 

	Andre Braugher, Charles S. Dutton and Mario Van Peebles star 
in a different tale of racial injustice, Showtime's "10,000 Black Men 
Named George" (8 PM), with Braugher starring as early civil-rights 
leader A. Philip Randolph, who unionize the Pullman Company. 

	PBS' "American Experience" (check local listings) tackles 
"Public Enemy #1" John Dillinger, subject of the wacky Ray Stevens 
tune "Dillinger, you Evil Villain-ger."

	HGTV celebrates Black history month with a look at just how 
fabulous the "Homes of the Underground Railroad" (9 PM) are. 

	Syd's in Vegas on "Alias" (9 PM) on a rare weekend that both 
Vince Vaughn and Bart Braverman are out of town. 

	HBO's "Six Feet Under" (9 PM) moves back to Sundays with the 
season one finale, in which Brenda visits Billy in the institution 
(big mistake), a deacon at David's church has been presiding over 
same-sex marriages, Gabe can't quite clean up his act, Ruth choses 
between her new men, and Rico's sun is baptized. 

	HBO's "OZ" (10 PM) ends season 5, likely with someone else 
getting killed.

	Back in October, Rudolph Giuliani promised he'd tape an 
episode of "Queer as Folk" (10 PM) in drag, at a fundraiser for the 
families of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered victims of 
September 11. Tonight's episode isn't it. Word is the former mayor 
has yet to honor his word to the show, even though his promise helped 
raise an additional $100,000 for relief funds. 


UNNECESSARY GUEST STAR PATROL
FOX's "King of the Hill" (7 PM) Alan Rickman and Laura Dern. Plot: 
wench unionizing at a Renaissance Fair. Yep, that's what I said. 

FOX's "King of the Hill" (7:30 PM) Yakov Smirnoff, Charlie Daniels 
and Vince Gill. Plot: the Dale Gribble Bluegrass Experience is 
formed. See, that one seems normal. 

CBS "The Education of Max Bickford" (7 PM) Joanna Kerns. Plot: Max 
has to seduce Kearns into donating $10,000,000 to the college no 
strings attached. She's a big fan of strings. 

FOX's "The Simpsons" (8 PM) Dennis Weaver. Plot: Bart's a fan of TV 
Westerns? Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. 

The WB's "The Jamie Kennedy Experiment" (8 PM) Bob Saget. Plot: Nope.

From: Bradford  <bradford1224@msn.com>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 8:50am
Subject: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

>>Just curious if anyone's had any experiences with the 'Johnny Carson
Collection' tapes/DVD's that I see every once in a while (at least here in
the backwoods of northern Michigan) running as an infomercial.  As in,
good, bad, worthwhile, not?  Would be nice to supplement the two episodes
of the original I have on tape now...^_^  Thanks!<<

  I was given the 3 DVD box set this past Christmas and, while I only
occasionally
watched the Tonight Show (anniversary shows or when there was a guest I was
interested in), I thoroughly enjoyed them. The quality is very good and it's
like
watching a REALLY long anniversary show. It also includes the last two shows
in
their entirety, a backstage look at the show and (the only really hokey
thing in the
bunch) a one hour "documentary" on Carson's return to his hometown in
Nebraska.
I could just picture the crew behind the scenes giving the townsfolk
directions on how to
act when Cason got there and shouting "we need more people in overalls. This
is NEBRASKA dammit!!!"

From: Wes McGee  <DavenportIAS@netscape.net>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:06am
Subject: Re: Cartoon Network to air Chuck Jones tribute at 8pm/et.

More details of the tribute schedule...

8PM -- CN will run the old Toonheads episode about the early works of 
Chuck Jones.
8:30PM & 9:00PM -- CN will run a full hour of "The Chuck Jones Show." A 
program that showcases the work of Chuck Jones (if they're not running 
random Bob McKimson cartoons, that is!)

--Wes McGee

DavenportIAS@n... wrote:

> From Toonzone News
>www.toonzone.net
>
>According to CNN, Cartoon Network will preempt their regular schedule 
>tonight from 8-9:30pm et/pt for a Chuck Jones tribute.
>
>--Wes McGee
>

From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 8:14pm
Subject: Johnny Cash B'day Bash

CMT Celebrates Johnny Cash's 70th Birthday
With A Special "CMT JOHNNY CASH BIRTHDAY BASH"

Cable Television Premiere of Famous Johnny Cash Concert

	In honor of the legendary Johnny Cash's milestone 70th birthday, CMT
will throw the biggest birthday bash in CMT history with CMT'S JOHNNY CASH
BIRTHDAY BASH on Tuesday, Feb. 26. CMT will dedicate an entire evening of
special Johnny Cash programming. Fans of the "Man In Black" will not want to
miss this special celebration of the life and music of one of the biggest
icons in all of music.

CMT viewers will get a full party bag which includes a special CMT MOST
WANTED LIVE where hosts Greg Martin and Katie Cook will be counting down
some of the best Cash videos; a special one-hour episode of the AUSTIN CITY
LIMITS featuring Johnny Cash and family; and the cable television debut of A
CONCERT: BEHIND THE PRISON WALLS (1976), a half-hour of Cash performing for
inmates inside the Tennessee State Penitentiary in Nashville. This is only
one of two prison concerts Cash ever shot for television and has never been
shown on cable television before now. As icing on the cake, CMT viewers will
also get a special episode of BIG TICKET, hosted by CMT's Tara McNamara,
taking viewers back to some of Johnny Cash's biggest music videos.


CMT'S JOHNNY CASH BIRTHDAY BASH includes:

Tuesday, Feb. 26

CMT MOST WANTED LIVE - All Johnny Cash videos		7:00 - 8:00 PM,
ET/PT
AUSTIN CITY LIMITS - Johnny Cash & Family			8:00 - 9:00
PM, ET/PT
**A CONCERT: BEHIND THE PRISON WALLS			9:00 - 9:30 PM,
ET/PT
BIG TICKET	- Just Johnny Cash					9:30
- 10:00 PM, ET/PT

**Cable Television Debut of one of only two prison concerts Johnny Cash ever
shot for television.

Repeats:

AUSTIN CITY LIMITS - Johnny Cash & family			10:00 -
11:00 PM, ET/PT
CMT MOST WANTED LIVE - All Johnny Cash videos		11:00 - 12:00 AM,
ET/PT
A CONCERT: BEHIND THE PRISON WALLS			12:00 - 12:30 AM,
ET/PT
BIG TICKET - Just Johnny Cash					12:30-1:00
AM, ET/PT
****
-- 
TV Barn: http://www.tvbarn.com

From: Tom Roche  <troche@mindspring.com>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 8:17pm
Subject: With Friends Like Shales....

Subject: washingtonpost.com: Simply Huge: Martin Short Is a Mighty Manic 'Glick'
X-URL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55177-2002Feb22?language=printer


   Simply Huge: Martin Short Is a Mighty Manic 'Glick'

   By Tom Shales
   Washington Post Staff Writer
   Saturday, February 23, 2002; Page C01

   When in the course of human events -- oh, the heck with human events
   right now, and the same for subhuman events, though Heaven knows
   there's plenty of them.

   Let's talk instead about Jiminy's Glick -- I mean Jiminy Glick. Let's
   talk about Jiminy Glick's enormous place in the annals of hilarity, in
   the annals of insanity, in the annals of just about everything.
   Because if Jiminy Glick is anything, he is annal retentive. [Oh,
   brother -- Ed.]

   Who is Jiminy Glick, you ask? Well, do you? Because if you ask that,
   then you missed the first season of "Primetime Glick," which is Mr.
   Glick's merry and madcap interview program on the Comedy Central cable
   channel. But lucky, lucky, lucky you (and even luckier Mr. Glick),
   because the show has been renewed, and a second season begins tonight
   at 10.

   Not only is Glick back but so is Michael McKean as Adrien Van
   Voorhees, his epicene harp-playing bandleader, plus guest stars so
   famous you wonder whether you are actually watching cable. We give you
   advance warning of Glick's return so that you can program the VCR, or
   set the TiVo, or buy a larger-screen television set, or make whatever
   preparations are necessary to welcome him back into your embrace --
   although embracing Mr. Glick is a neat trick since he is as enormous
   as his places in all those annals and is usually busy embracing
   himself anyway. You have to get in line.

   Jiminy Glick is the insanely inspired comic creation of the great
   Martin Short, one of the most versatile, gifted and seemingly
   inebriated comic actors in the whole slap-happy history of television.
   Short burst upon the scene as a member of the renowned "SCTV" comedy
   troupe, and then in 1984 he burst upon the scene again as, briefly,
   one of the "Saturday Night Live" players. But then he also burst upon
   the scene playing small roles that he made huge in movie after movie
   after movie.

   Eventually the scene wearied from so frequently being burst upon, but
   Short bursts eternal. He is, mercifully, tireless. Even flopping as a
   daytime talk-show host didn't slow him down ormuffle his luster. His
   luster is unmuffleable. Age cannot wither nor custom stale his
   infinite infinity.

   In Glick guise, he's a multi-chinned and fabulously fatuous talk-show
   host who manages almost always to insult and embarrass his celebrity
   guests. And guests don't get much more celebrated than the first of
   Glick's new-season crop: Tom Hanks, one of the biggest box-office
   stars and best actors in all of moviedom. And yes, he has made a
   couple of dumb movies. That's why they call it moviedom. [Ay, caramba!
   -- Ed.]

   "Primetime Glick" is partly or largely improvised, and few guests have
   been able to keep pace with Short (as Glick) and his butterfly
   attention span, manic or maniac mood swings and insistence on changing
   the subject -- to himself -- as often as possible. Hanks is a joy to
   watch, partly because he finds Short a joy to watch, and to match wits
   with, in a five-minute segment of outrageous Tomfoolery and
   Hanksy-panksy.

   "Here's -- Tom Hank! [sic]" Glick says grandly as Hanks wafts in from
   the wings. As he does with most of his guests, Glick finds it
   necessary to smack Hanks repeatedly on the leg with a rolled-up
   script. He not only gets Hanks's name wrong, he also mistakenly refers
   to the Hanks blockbuster movie "Cast Away" as "Rescue Me." (Later in
   the show, he mistakenly says guest Ben Stiller's father, Jerry
   Stiller, co-stars on "Queer as Folk" instead of the correct show,
   "King of Queens.")

   "Everyone in the world compares me to you," Glick tells Hanks after
   hawking up a piece of caramel corn that, like so many other objects,
   has become lodged in the Glick windpipe. Hanks shocks Glick by
   retrieving a regurgitated morsel from the cheap carpeting and
   swallowing same -- "same" meaning the corn, not the carpet. Glick
   barely asks Hanks a single question about anything, instead drifting
   off into a reverie about "late at night, when Mr. Needy arrives" and
   "riding my lady to Loveville." Inside sources say, incidentally, that
   on this season'sshows we will meet wife Dixie and even their four
   "strapping" sons, thus confounding we Glick fans who assumed the
   family he's always babbling about was entirely imaginary and that
   instead he lived in an efficiency apartment and microwaved Lean
   Cuisines for dinner every night. Six or seven of 'em, that is.

   Hanks is wonderful, while Stiller, not the swiftest bunny in the
   bunch, appears alternately confounded and dumbfounded by his host's
   machinations, not to mention expectorations. Glick tactlessly recalls
   Stiller's dismal stint on "SNL" in 1989: "You went out there . . . and
   just bombed, and bored people so desperately it made people feel like
   maybe you shouldn't hang around."

   There's more -- oh, so much more! -- but it demands (or maybe begs) to
   be seen for itself. "Primetime Glick" is the epitome of hilarity, a
   deceptively ramshackle showbiz sendup with heroically accurate aim.
   Glick gets everything wrong; Short gets everything right. He starts at
   perfect and keeps ascending, and not even the sky is the limit. [Holy
   moly, how much is Short paying this guy? -- Ed.]

                     � 2002 The Washington Post Company

From: Jon Delfin  <jondelfin@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 8:39pm
Subject: Re: With Friends Like Shales....

It should be noted that the bracketed remarks signed --Ed. are not
comments from Tom, but in fact were included with the original article.

Jon

Tom Roche wrote:

>  Subject: washingtonpost.com: Simply Huge: Martin Short Is a Mighty
> Manic 'Glick'
> X-URL:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55177-2002Feb22?language=printer
>
>
>
>    Simply Huge: Martin Short Is a Mighty Manic 'Glick'
>
>    By Tom Shales
>    Washington Post Staff Writer
>    Saturday, February 23, 2002; Page C01
>
>    When in the course of human events -- oh, the heck with human
> events
>    right now, and the same for subhuman events, though Heaven knows
>    there's plenty of them.
>
>    Let's talk instead about Jiminy's Glick -- I mean Jiminy Glick.
> Let's
>    talk about Jiminy Glick's enormous place in the annals of hilarity,
> in
>    the annals of insanity, in the annals of just about everything.
>    Because if Jiminy Glick is anything, he is annal retentive. [Oh,
>    brother -- Ed.]
>
>    Who is Jiminy Glick, you ask? Well, do you? Because if you ask
> that,
>    then you missed the first season of "Primetime Glick," which is Mr.
>
>    Glick's merry and madcap interview program on the Comedy Central
> cable
>    channel. But lucky, lucky, lucky you (and even luckier Mr. Glick),
>    because the show has been renewed, and a second season begins
> tonight
>    at 10.
>
>    Not only is Glick back but so is Michael McKean as Adrien Van
>    Voorhees, his epicene harp-playing bandleader, plus guest stars so
>    famous you wonder whether you are actually watching cable. We give
> you
>    advance warning of Glick's return so that you can program the VCR,
> or
>    set the TiVo, or buy a larger-screen television set, or make
> whatever
>    preparations are necessary to welcome him back into your embrace --
>
>    although embracing Mr. Glick is a neat trick since he is as
> enormous
>    as his places in all those annals and is usually busy embracing
>    himself anyway. You have to get in line.
>
>    Jiminy Glick is the insanely inspired comic creation of the great
>    Martin Short, one of the most versatile, gifted and seemingly
>    inebriated comic actors in the whole slap-happy history of
> television.
>    Short burst upon the scene as a member of the renowned "SCTV"
> comedy
>    troupe, and then in 1984 he burst upon the scene again as, briefly,
>
>    one of the "Saturday Night Live" players. But then he also burst
> upon
>    the scene playing small roles that he made huge in movie after
> movie
>    after movie.
>
>    Eventually the scene wearied from so frequently being burst upon,
> but
>    Short bursts eternal. He is, mercifully, tireless. Even flopping as
> a
>    daytime talk-show host didn't slow him down ormuffle his luster.
> His
>    luster is unmuffleable. Age cannot wither nor custom stale his
>    infinite infinity.
>
>    In Glick guise, he's a multi-chinned and fabulously fatuous
> talk-show
>    host who manages almost always to insult and embarrass his
> celebrity
>    guests. And guests don't get much more celebrated than the first of
>
>    Glick's new-season crop: Tom Hanks, one of the biggest box-office
>    stars and best actors in all of moviedom. And yes, he has made a
>    couple of dumb movies. That's why they call it moviedom. [Ay,
> caramba!
>    -- Ed.]
>
>    "Primetime Glick" is partly or largely improvised, and few guests
> have
>    been able to keep pace with Short (as Glick) and his butterfly
>    attention span, manic or maniac mood swings and insistence on
> changing
>    the subject -- to himself -- as often as possible. Hanks is a joy
> to
>    watch, partly because he finds Short a joy to watch, and to match
> wits
>    with, in a five-minute segment of outrageous Tomfoolery and
>    Hanksy-panksy.
>
>    "Here's -- Tom Hank! [sic]" Glick says grandly as Hanks wafts in
> from
>    the wings. As he does with most of his guests, Glick finds it
>    necessary to smack Hanks repeatedly on the leg with a rolled-up
>    script. He not only gets Hanks's name wrong, he also mistakenly
> refers
>    to the Hanks blockbuster movie "Cast Away" as "Rescue Me." (Later
> in
>    the show, he mistakenly says guest Ben Stiller's father, Jerry
>    Stiller, co-stars on "Queer as Folk" instead of the correct show,
>    "King of Queens.")
>
>    "Everyone in the world compares me to you," Glick tells Hanks after
>
>    hawking up a piece of caramel corn that, like so many other
> objects,
>    has become lodged in the Glick windpipe. Hanks shocks Glick by
>    retrieving a regurgitated morsel from the cheap carpeting and
>    swallowing same -- "same" meaning the corn, not the carpet. Glick
>    barely asks Hanks a single question about anything, instead
> drifting
>    off into a reverie about "late at night, when Mr. Needy arrives"
> and
>    "riding my lady to Loveville." Inside sources say, incidentally,
> that
>    on this season'sshows we will meet wife Dixie and even their four
>    "strapping" sons, thus confounding we Glick fans who assumed the
>    family he's always babbling about was entirely imaginary and that
>    instead he lived in an efficiency apartment and microwaved Lean
>    Cuisines for dinner every night. Six or seven of 'em, that is.
>
>    Hanks is wonderful, while Stiller, not the swiftest bunny in the
>    bunch, appears alternately confounded and dumbfounded by his host's
>
>    machinations, not to mention expectorations. Glick tactlessly
> recalls
>    Stiller's dismal stint on "SNL" in 1989: "You went out there . . .
> and
>    just bombed, and bored people so desperately it made people feel
> like
>    maybe you shouldn't hang around."
>
>    There's more -- oh, so much more! -- but it demands (or maybe begs)
> to
>    be seen for itself. "Primetime Glick" is the epitome of hilarity, a
>
>    deceptively ramshackle showbiz sendup with heroically accurate aim.
>
>    Glick gets everything wrong; Short gets everything right. He starts
> at
>    perfect and keeps ascending, and not even the sky is the limit.
> [Holy
>    moly, how much is Short paying this guy? -- Ed.]
>
>                      � 2002 The Washington Post Company


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

From: jicarney  <jicarney@edge.net>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:16pm
Subject: Re: With Friends Like Shales....

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Tom Roche <troche@m...> wrote:
>    Simply Huge: Martin Short Is a Mighty Manic 'Glick'
> 
>    By Tom Shales
>    Washington Post Staff Writer

>    on this season'sshows we will meet wife Dixie and even their four
>    "strapping" sons, thus confounding we Glick fans who assumed the
>    family he's always babbling about was entirely imaginary and that
>    instead he lived in an efficiency apartment and microwaved Lean
>    Cuisines for dinner every night. Six or seven of 'em, that is.

We met his wife Dixie -- played by Jan Hooks of SNL and "Designing 
Women" -- several times last year, though we never saw the sons that 
I can recall.  Odd that Shales would have missed that.


John I. Carney  |  jicarney@e...  |  http://jicarney.cjb.net

From: Paul Stephen  <pstephen@mb.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:16pm
Subject: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

> Just curious if anyone's had any experiences with the 'Johnny Carson 
> Collection' tapes/DVD's

I just got the DVD collection after Christmas. A Canadian company
was selling them in Dutch auctions on eBay.

The poorest part of the collection was the "behind the scenes"
footage. It looked like it was tossed together as an afterthought.

Also --  you would have thought Johnny would have seen to it that
the DVDs would have had closed captioning for the hearing impaired.

There's lots more good material to be extracted out of those
tapes buried in the "vault".

The site http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com is selling the DVD collection
for $45.60 plus shipping.

From: Steven Schroeder  <BagHead@concentric.net>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:43pm
Subject: Re: Re: With Friends Like Shales....

Shales is too busy transposing his own life onto Jiminy Glick to pay
attention to minor details, thank you!

Steve
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> --- In tvbarn2@y..., Tom Roche <troche@m...> wrote:
> >    Simply Huge: Martin Short Is a Mighty Manic 'Glick'
> >
> >    By Tom Shales
> >    Washington Post Staff Writer
>
> >    on this season'sshows we will meet wife Dixie and even their four
> >    "strapping" sons, thus confounding we Glick fans who assumed the
> >    family he's always babbling about was entirely imaginary and that
> >    instead he lived in an efficiency apartment and microwaved Lean
> >    Cuisines for dinner every night. Six or seven of 'em, that is.
>
> We met his wife Dixie -- played by Jan Hooks of SNL and "Designing
> Women" -- several times last year, though we never saw the sons that
> I can recall.  Odd that Shales would have missed that.
>
>
> John I. Carney  |  jicarney@e...  |  http://jicarney.cjb.net
>
>
>
>
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From: rcurrlin  <rcurrlin@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:56pm
Subject: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

If I can offer one caveat about the collection, and I speak for the 
VHS version (I havent seen the DVD)...

It does not contain the entire final show. About 10 minutes are 
deleted because Carson Productions did not want to pay the talent/ 
use fees for an extended musical highlights segment and a couple of 
other clips.

What you do see on the tape of the last show is a shot of Carson 
after he says good night which lasts about 20 seconds longer than 
when the show was televised... Johnny can be seen visibly becoming, 
let's just say, emotional. Very interesting that it's on the tape, 
but did not air that way in 92.

>   I was given the 3 DVD box set this past Christmas and, while I 
only
> occasionally
> watched the Tonight Show (anniversary shows or when there was a 
guest I was
> interested in), I thoroughly enjoyed them. The quality is very good 
and it's
> like
> watching a REALLY long anniversary show. It also includes the last 
two shows
> in
> their entirety, a backstage look at the show and (the only really 
hokey
> thing in the
> bunch) a one hour "documentary" on Carson's return to his hometown 
in
> Nebraska.
> I could just picture the crew behind the scenes giving the townsfolk
> directions on how to
> act when Cason got there and shouting "we need more people in 
overalls. This
> is NEBRASKA dammit!!!"

From: Ben Scripps  <bscripps@voyager.net>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 11:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

rcurrlin said on [02/24/2002 23:56]

> What you do see on the tape of the last show is a shot of Carson 
> after he says good night which lasts about 20 seconds longer than 
> when the show was televised... Johnny can be seen visibly becoming, 
> let's just say, emotional. Very interesting that it's on the tape, 
> but did not air that way in 92.

Funny, that's one of the reasons I was looking into the set in the first 
place--the NBC affiliate in Grand Rapids (where I was living at the time) 
actually dumped out of the show about 5 seconds after Johnny said 'good 
night' and ran a 30 second promo for their weather forecasting, before 
jumping back to the feed just in time to catch the credits.  

Thanks for the mostly positive reviews--guess I know where part of my tax 
refund is going...^_^

--Ben

From: tomalhe  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 8:07am
Subject: Remote Patrol: Gimmie an "N!"

Last week on FOX's "Boston Public" (8 PM), they killed seven 
students die, had a student punch a teacher who then punched back 
equally, and had Fyvush Finkel claim he was reincarnated from George 
Washington.... Tonight, they say a variation of the word "Nigerian" a 
lot. The show claims it's one of the most controversial, yet publicly 
accepted epithets in the English language, and one of the worst words 
one can use to bully a fellow student in school. I would argue that a 
much more common taunt is the equally offensive word "faggot," which 
is accepted to belittle regardless of race, or sexual orientation.

	That's right, as promised, it's my most controversial, 
shocking, provocative column ever. I expect big ratings from this. 

	Ray and Debra imitate Frank and Marie and vice versa on CBS 
"Everybody Loves Raymond" (9 PM). 

	Witches Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock are doing' it for 
themselves in ABC's Monday chick flick "Practical Magic" (9 PM). 

	A bridge from Europe to Africa? A tunnel through the Straits 
of Gibraltar? Laugh all you want, but the Discovery Channel 
interviews those already at work "Engineering the Impossible" (9 PM).

	PBS "Masterpiece Theatre" (9 PM, check listings) presents 
Kingsley Amis' "Lucky Jim," a bumbling lecturer post W.W.II
	
	FOX's "Ally McBeal" (9 PM) submits her alleged daughter to a 
DNA test. "Oh, Mom! Don't you trust me?" (No more than anyone should 
trust the show's writers.)

	Lifetime's "Fear No More: Stop Violence Against Women" (10 
PM) presents tales of five abused women who fought back, and continue 
to help other women fight for their lives.

	Comedy Central's weak tribute to the "Heroes of Black Comedy" 
(10 PM) looks at hip hop comedy with riffs from Dave Chappelle and 
Sinbad. 

	A&E's "Investigative Reports" (10 PM) returns to Ground Zero 
with a look at the onsite urban search and rescue teams.

	HBO's "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel" (10 PM) investigates 
the dangerous world of elementary school dodgeball.

	Jay has Julia Louis-Dreyfus trying to drum up interest in her 
lame new sitcom, along with Busta Rhymes and P. Diddy between 
arrests; Dave has Kelsey Grammer and Alanis Morissette.

UNNECESSARY GUEST STAR PATROL 
The WB's "7th Heaven" (8 PM) Richard Lewis and Laraine Newman. Plot: 
son wants to marry a Jewish woman before entering med school. 

NBC's "Fear Factor" (8 PM) WWF wrestlers Matt and Jeff Hardy, Test, 
Lita, Jacqueline and Mighty Molly, (five of whom of whom I've never 
heard of).  

NBC's "Third Watch" (9 PM) Roy Scheider. Plot: something involving 
the Russian Mafia.

From: pmurray63  <pmurray@bigfoot.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:42am
Subject: When annoyances are patented

From today's NYT article about Oxygen (emphasis added):
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/25/business/media/25OXYG.html

Oxygen is developing pilots for its own comedy hour, but its most 
innovative step may be in advertising. Every show carries a "stripe"
� a black ribbon of subtitles � at the bottom of the screen.
Some are arch comments or explanations. (A dumb-blonde version of the 
goddess Aphrodite appears on "Xena." Caption: "The actress graduated 
from Brown University.") Others are messages from advertisers and 
sponsors. ***Ms. Laybourne said Oxygen would apply for a patent on 
its stripe.***


Well, considering all the other dumb patents that the government has 
granted, they'll probably get it. More's the pity. I think the stripe 
is one of the most annoying things I have ever seen on any network. 
The alledgedly funny comments are simply distracting, and have on at 
least one occasion driven me away from a movie that I would otherwise 
have watched.

But then again, I'm a guy, so I guess they don't care what I think.

_________________________
Paul Murray
http://www.paulmurray.net

From: cdthomas1999  <cdthomas1999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 10:52am
Subject: Six Feet Under: not alone

What other show had a main character killed off in the first episode?

I understand the mental block about this, sir, but PROVIDENCE has had 
its nagging, intrusive, ghost mother on since her death in the first 
episode.

I know, I regret reminding you, but someone had to do it....

From: jicarney  <jicarney@edge.net>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 0:09pm
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

--- In tvbarn2@y..., "cdthomas1999" <cdthomas1999@y...> wrote:
> What other show had a main character killed off in the first 
episode?

"The Ghost and Mrs. Muir" had a main character killed off long before 
the first episode. :)  Ditto "Topper."


John I. Carney  |  jicarney@e...  |  http://jicarney.cjb.net

From: Jay Lewis  <lewisj@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 1:06pm
Subject: Re: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

At 06:09 PM 2/25/02 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In tvbarn2@y..., "cdthomas1999" <cdthomas1999@y...> wrote:
> > What other show had a main character killed off in the first
>episode?

LA Law had "Chaney" dead in the pilot/first episode.

"Chaney" was the mysterious partner whose name was never
removed from the firm's title "McKenzie-Brackman-Chaney"
and all of the other incarnations throughout.

- Jay Lewis


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From: pmurray63  <pmurray@bigfoot.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 1:21pm
Subject: Ernie Harwell to retire

This is radio-related, but we sometimes wander off into that area 
here, so...

http://msn.espn.go.com/mlb/news/2002/0225/1340301.html
http://www.freep.com/sports/tigers/tigers25_20020225.htm

LAKELAND, Fla. - Hall of Fame announcer Ernie Harwell, whose voice 
has been synonymous with the Detroit Tigers for more than four 
decades, will leave the booth after this season.

``I love my job. I love baseball. I enjoy being with the players,'' 
he said at a news conference Monday. ``It really has come time for me 
to say one more year and then retirement.''

The Tigers announced last month that Harwell would be back this 
season to call games for his 42nd year with the Tigers and his 55th 
year in the majors.

[snip]

I don't know how many people will appreciate it, but this is huge 
news here in Detroit. Harwell has been broadcasting Tiger games since 
before I was born. A previous regime (under previous owner Tom 
Monaghan) forced Harwell out in the early 90's and was greeted by a 
public backlash that ended up in Harwell's return. 

Tiger baseball won't be the same without him, but since he's leaving 
on his own terms, I can only wish him well. And listen to all the 
games I can this season.

_________________________
Paul Murray
http://www.paulmurray.net

From: Ben Scripps  <bscripps@voyager.net>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 1:24pm
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

cdthomas1999 said on [02/25/2002 11:52]

> What other show had a main character killed off in the first episode?

IIRC, the short-lived CBS series "WIOU", set at a fictional struggling UHF 
TV station in Chicago, had a news anchor die on the set during a newscast 
in the first episode.

--Ben

-----------------------------------------------------
Ben Scripps
Director, 9&10 News at 6 & 11, Sports Overtime
bscripps@v...  http://senshicentral.cjb.net
-----------------------------------------------------
Big Time Television: 24 hours a day, day after day,
      making tomorrow seem like yesterday.

From: Anthony Foglia  <afoglia@physics.ucsb.edu>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 1:54pm
Subject: Re: When annoyances are patented

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, pmurray63 wrote:

> Well, considering all the other dumb patents that the government has 
> granted, they'll probably get it. More's the pity. I think the stripe 
> is one of the most annoying things I have ever seen on any network. 
> The alledgedly funny comments are simply distracting, and have on at 
> least one occasion driven me away from a movie that I would otherwise 
> have watched.
> 
> But then again, I'm a guy, so I guess they don't care what I think.

	What about the stripe on TNN?  I was watching a little ST:TNG this 
weekend, but had to turn it off after a few minutes because of that 
annoying black bar.  I realized they don't actually cover any of the 
picture with it, but instead shrink the height to make it fit.  It's a 
small but percptible change.  It's very annoying to watch a show where 
nothing looks physically normal.

--Anthony

-------------------------------------------------------------------
I have studied many times,
The marble which was chisled for me,
A boat with a furled sail, at rest in a harbour.

In truth, it pictures not my destination
But my life.
-- "George Gray", Spoon River Anthology, Edgar Lee Masters

From: schilder666  <schilder666@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 2:30pm
Subject: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

Interesting thing about the Ultimate Carson Collection DVDs- well, at 
least my set- on one of the DVDs, I believe it was the best of the 
80's and 90's, the left and right audio channels were reversed.

The makers of the DVD decided to get all fancy and separate the audio 
so that Ed would be on the left and the band would be on the right 
during the monologue clips, but then somewhere along the line the 
audio was reversed and now Ed is guffawing from the right and Doc and 
the band are playing from the left.

It's unfortunate because the makers of the DVD were trying to improve 
on the source material (I don't remember Ed's mike being keyed to the 
left speaker, do you?) and in the process it kind of hosed things up.

Anybody else notice this?  I'm curious to see if it's been fixed in 
later pressings (I ordered the moment they were available.)

Obviously it's not about 5.1 THX mastered sound, it's about the 
comedy and this is a great set.  I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it 
to anyone.

schilder

--- In tvbarn2@y..., tomalhe@a... wrote:> They're doing (what I 
consider) an interesting multi-part series on "The 
> Johnny Carson Collection." Here's a quote from part one : 
> 
> (Johnny Carson)  finally said, ‘You can do this, but you
have to 
give people 
> the best quality.’ He wanted happy customers �"
first-class 
tapes and 
> top-notch customer service.”
> 
> <http://responsemagazine.com/2002_01/carson.html>
> <http://responsemagazine.com/2002_02/carson.html>

From: Keith Privett  <Keith@PRIVETT.COM>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 2:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

--- jicarney <jicarney@e...> wrote:
> --- In tvbarn2@y..., "cdthomas1999" <cdthomas1999@y...> wrote:
> > What other show had a main character killed off in the first 
> episode?
> 
On "Alias", Sydney's boyfriend didn't make it past the first episode, did he? 

But technically, if they're a "main character" for the series, wouldn't they
need to reappear posthumously throughout the series. So with out my TV
encyclopedia handy, I'm sure someone can name the rancid 80's or early 90's
sitcom with a video will as it's primary plot. 

Also, someone else can tell if "My Mother the Car" fits the category?



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Saturdays at 7pm  through March 2  
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March 3, 10:30am - ComedySportz Chicago - 2921 N. Halsted

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From: jicarney  <jicarney@edge.net>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 2:43pm
Subject: Racing legend Hal Gurnee

It was nice to read in the Late Show's weekly e-mail newsletter that 
the video segments from Salt Lake City the past couple of weeks were 
directed by the great Hal Gurnee. Nice to see him working and know 
that he and the show are still on good terms.

I'm sitting here recalling him in his khakis introducing "Hal 
Gurnee's Network Time-Killers" from the control room ....

John I. Carney  |  jicarney@e...  |  http://jicarney.cjb.net

From: Pollak, Melissa  <mpollak@nsf.gov>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 3:22pm
Subject: RE: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

> Keith Privett wrote:
> 
> But technically, if they're a "main character" for the series, wouldn't
> they
> need to reappear posthumously throughout the series. So with out my TV
> encyclopedia handy, I'm sure someone can name the rancid 80's or early
> 90's
> sitcom with a video will as it's primary plot. 
> 
	Unfortunately, I can (although I think it was late 1990s):  Jenny
McCarthy's sitcom.  Actually, the videos of George Hamilton (who played her
deceased father) were the only watchable moments of the series.

	Melissa

From: wszczuka  <whs@hnc.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 4:23pm
Subject: On this day in 1950... Your Show of Shows

On this day... in 1950, a Saturday night institution begins as the 
very first of four years worth of "Your Show of Shows" hits the 
airwaves with Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Carl Reiner and Howard Morris 
in front of the cameras and at one point or another, the writing 
talents of Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, Larry Gelbart and Woody Allen 
backstage. 
-----------------------------------------------
In addition to the stunning amount of talent in the list of names 
above, I find it amazing that all but Imogene Coca (who just passed 
away last year at the age of 92) are pretty active 52 years later.

From: investigate27  <investigate27@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 4:27pm
Subject: Re: Racing legend Hal Gurnee

Anyone ever catch the St. Elsewhere throwaway line, when during a 
hallway chase someone yelled "watch the Gurney, Hal!"


--- In tvbarn2@y..., "jicarney" <jicarney@e...> wrote:
> It was nice to read in the Late Show's weekly e-mail newsletter that 
> the video segments from Salt Lake City the past couple of weeks were 
> directed by the great Hal Gurnee. Nice to see him working and know 
> that he and the show are still on good terms.
> 
> I'm sitting here recalling him in his khakis introducing "Hal 
> Gurnee's Network Time-Killers" from the control room ....
> 
> John I. Carney  |  jicarney@e...  |  http://jicarney.cjb.net

From: Keith Privett  <Keith@PRIVETT.COM>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 4:53pm
Subject: RE: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

Good catch, but I was thinking of one even earlier with, I think Slim Pickens
as one of two folks who played the deceased. Was it "Filthy Rich"?

--- "Pollak, Melissa" <mpollak@n...> wrote:
> > Keith Privett wrote:
> > 
> > But technically, if they're a "main character" for the series, wouldn't
> > they
> > need to reappear posthumously throughout the series. So with out my TV
> > encyclopedia handy, I'm sure someone can name the rancid 80's or early
> > 90's
> > sitcom with a video will as it's primary plot. 
> > 
> 	Unfortunately, I can (although I think it was late 1990s):  Jenny
> McCarthy's sitcom.  Actually, the videos of George Hamilton (who played her
> deceased father) were the only watchable moments of the series.
> 
> 	Melissa
> 
> 
> TVBarn2: America's funniest TV chat room.
> Goodbye: tvbarn2-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
>  
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 


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======= Salsation 2002 ==== www.salsation.net ==
"Crouching Wetback, Hidden Migra" at the Chicago SketchFest
Saturdays at 7pm  through March 2  
Theater Buliding - 1212 W. Belmont - www.ticketmaster.com

Laugh! a benefit for Gilda's Club (organized by Sirens)
March 3, 10:30am - ComedySportz Chicago - 2921 N. Halsted

__________________________________________________
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From: Pollak, Melissa  <mpollak@nsf.gov>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 5:03pm
Subject: RE: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

You're right. 

I've just been reading "The Complete Directory..."  It says Forrest Tucker
had to take over the role of the dead patriarch because Slim Pickens died
after the first episodes were produced.

Melissa

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Keith Privett [SMTP:Keith@P...]
> Sent:	Monday, February 25, 2002 5:53 PM
> To:	tvbarn2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [tvbarn2] Re: Six Feet Under:  not alone
> 
> Good catch, but I was thinking of one even earlier with, I think Slim
> Pickens
> as one of two folks who played the deceased. Was it "Filthy Rich"?
> 
> --- "Pollak, Melissa" <mpollak@n...> wrote:
> > > Keith Privett wrote:
> > > 
> > > But technically, if they're a "main character" for the series,
> wouldn't
> > > they
> > > need to reappear posthumously throughout the series. So with out my TV
> > > encyclopedia handy, I'm sure someone can name the rancid 80's or early
> > > 90's
> > > sitcom with a video will as it's primary plot. 
> > > 
> > 	Unfortunately, I can (although I think it was late 1990s):  Jenny
> > McCarthy's sitcom.  Actually, the videos of George Hamilton (who played
> her
> > deceased father) were the only watchable moments of the series.
> > 
> > 	Melissa
> > 
> > 
> > TVBarn2: America's funniest TV chat room.
> > Goodbye: tvbarn2-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
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> "Crouching Wetback, Hidden Migra" at the Chicago SketchFest
> Saturdays at 7pm  through March 2  
> Theater Buliding - 1212 W. Belmont - www.ticketmaster.com
> 
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> March 3, 10:30am - ComedySportz Chicago - 2921 N. Halsted
> 
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> http://sports.yahoo.com
> 
> 
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From: cb_thumbsup3_99  <thumbsup3@aol.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Cartoon Network to air Chuck Jones tribute at 8pm/et.

A Chuck Jones tribute page is now also up at the Cartoon Network Web 
site:

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv/chuckjones.html

- Christine


--- In tvbarn2@y..., Wes McGee <DavenportIAS@n...> wrote:
> More details of the tribute schedule...
> 
> 8PM -- CN will run the old Toonheads episode about the early works of 
> Chuck Jones.
> 8:30PM & 9:00PM -- CN will run a full hour of "The Chuck Jones Show." A 
> program that showcases the work of Chuck Jones (if they're not running 
> random Bob McKimson cartoons, that is!)
> 
> --Wes McGee
>

From: markevanier  <me@evanier.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 5:06pm
Subject: Your Show of Shows correction

>On this day... in 1950, a Saturday night institution begins
>as the very first of four years worth of "Your Show of Shows"
>hits the airwaves with Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Carl Reiner
>and Howard Morris in front of the cameras and at one point or
>another, the writing talents of Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, Larry
>Gelbart and Woody Allen backstage.

ME: Larry Gelbart and Woody Allen never had anything to do with YOUR 
SHOW OF SHOWS.  They worked on later Caesar projects.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 0:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: Carson Tapes and DVD's

> It's unfortunate because the makers of the DVD were trying to improve 
>  on the source material (I don't remember Ed's mike being keyed to the 
>  left speaker, do you?) and in the process it kind of hosed things up.

I highly recommend you go to johnnycarson.com and tell them this, if you 
haven't already.

From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 0:15pm
Subject: Re: When annoyances are patented

>  Others are messages from advertisers and 
>  sponsors. ***Ms. Laybourne said Oxygen would apply for a patent on 
>  its stripe.***

Uh huh... "Crawl Across Video"

From: Anthony Foglia  <afoglia@physics.ucsb.edu>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 5:30pm
Subject: RE: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Pollak, Melissa wrote:

> I've just been reading "The Complete Directory..."  It says Forrest Tucker
> had to take over the role of the dead patriarch because Slim Pickens died
> after the first episodes were produced.

	Those annoying method actors...

--Anthony

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When you're away, I'm restless, lonely,
Wretched, bored, dejected;  only
Here's the rub, my darling dear,
I feel the same when you are here.

-- Samuel Hoffenstein

From: James Porteous  <porteous@interlog.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 5:46pm
Subject: CBC's Canada-U.S. Olympic hockey final viewership peaked at 10.6

CBC's Canada-U.S. Olympic hockey final viewership peaked at 10.6
million

By John McKay

TORONTO (CP) -- A record-busting 8.7 million Canadians were witness
to Olympics history Sunday, watching the Canadian men's hockey team
snatch gold from the United States in Salt Lake City.

The television audience actually peaked at 10.6 million, the CBC
said Monday.

"It's a wonderful day for Canadians, it's a wonderful day for
Canadian hockey, it's a wonderful day for the CBC," boasted Slawko
Klymkiw, CBC-TV's chief programmer.

Klymkiw noted that the numbers from Nielsen Media Research don't
even count the thousands upon thousands of Canadians who watched in bars
and restaurants, and he declined to even guess what the real number
was.

"I think it's higher, I dunno."

It was a collective pause unlike any in recent memory.
 From coast to coast, the streets were uncharacteristically quiet as
Canadians -- including millions who don't normally watch hockey --
hunkered down in front of their television sets for the critical game.
In shopping malls, stores had radios and televisions tuned to the
game, and shoppers cheered every score by the Canadian team. And after
the Canadians won 5-2, people spilled into the streets, waving the Maple
Leaf, laughing and celebrating.

The 8.7 million figure easily eclipses what's believed to be the
previous ratings winner in Canada -- the March 1998 Academy Awards
ceremony.

CTV spokesman Mike Cosentino says there were 6.6 million viewers for
the Oscars that year, when Titanic won 11 trophies and Jack Nicholson
and Helen Hunt took the top acting awards for As Good As It Gets.

CBC says that prior to Sunday, its highest-rated sports show was
Game 7 of the 1994 Stanley Cup between the New York Rangers and the
Vancouver Canucks, which attracted an average of 4.97 million viewers.
South of the border, the Salt Lake City contest was the
highest-rated hockey game -- Olympics or NHL -- on U.S. TV since the
1980 Lake Placid Games.

NBC's live broadcast Sunday afternoon drew a 10.7 national rating,
meaning 10.7 per cent of TV homes tuned in. About 38 million people
watched at least part of the game.

That's the biggest network audience in at least 22 years for a game
involving NHL players.

Although CBC officials have often said they aren't in the business
for ratings, Klymkiw was clearly delighted by the numbers. He said the
closing ceremonies Sunday night surpassed four million in prime time.
And unlike most cross-border programming, the CBC did not override
the incoming American signal on cable and satellite so that Canadian
viewers did have the option of watching alternative coverage from NBC,
the U.S. host broadcaster.

NBC, incidentally, did have commercial breaks during the game -- and
at times had ads running when there was game action -- while CBC limited
its ads to between periods and during pre- and post-game telecasts.

Klymkiw said the CBC used the event as part of its high-impact
strategy, running promotions during the game for upcoming CBC telecasts,
including the Trudeau mini-series and the new detective drama Tom
Stone.

"This is how we're going to demarcate this network and I can't be
happier."

CBC's ratings climbed steadily throughout the Games as competition
came down to the crunch and the unscheduled controversies -- the skating
vote, Wayne Gretzky's tantrum and the doping scandal -- escalated.
The Games opening ceremony netted 2.9 million viewers, climbing to
3.9 million for the Jamie Sale and David Pelletier skate, and for the
Canada-Czech Republic men's game last Monday.

The Wednesday men's quarter final between Canada and Finland brought
in 4.6 million pairs of eyeballs, peaking at a record 5.2 million.
Then it was the women's turn. Their gold medal game against the U.S.
drew 4.54 million, peaking at 6.2 million, with 5.2 million watching the
women's medal ceremony.

Friday afternoon's Canada-Belarus semi-final brought in an average
2.93 million, but it was a work day.

CBC says Nielsen breaks down programming into half-hour blocks -- in
the case of the Sunday game there were five of them. Five sets of
ratings are then added and divided by five. The peak number is that of
the highest-rated half-hour.



J a m e s   P o r t e o u s
Toronto ON
Just because I have an ice-pick in my head doesn't mean I'm a Trotskyite

From: Nichols, Gary  <gnichols@wfaanews.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 6:57pm
Subject: RE: Racing legend Hal Gurnee

jicarney sed:  
    > I'm sitting here recalling him in his khakis introducing "Hal 
                                           ^^^^^^^^^
    > Gurnee's Network Time-Killers" from the control room ....


Chinos !  :-)
 
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From: rcurrlin  <rcurrlin@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 11:41pm
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

Did anyone mention that Hill and Renko were killed in the Hill Street 
Blues pilot?

...only to be made undead, of course...

...roy

From: Anthony Foglia  <afoglia@physics.ucsb.edu>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 0:08am
Subject: Angel and Verizon

I'm surprised I haven't heard any mention of this yet.  This week
and last, WB has aired an "Angel is brought you by Verizon" ad.  What
makes this unique is this plug is closer to a full ad, with a Verizon
employee walking through the Angel set, mimicing the other Verizon ad,
saying "Can you here me now?" repeatedly over a cell phone.

	It's an interesting new twist and quite possibly a sign of a new
trend.

--Anthony

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The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that,
you've got it made. -Groucho Marx

From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:34am
Subject: Re: Angel and Verizon

I posted a Hollywood Reporter story to other headlines that an episode
 of My Life and Kids will have the movie "ET" as a major plot point. 
 Universal has paid for that to promote the re-issue of the movie and
 there will also be a 15 second ad for the film.
----------------------------- 
  Steve Rhodes
http://www.well.com/~srhodes

contributor to
http://www.tvbarn.com http://www.tvbarn.com/docs/- Docs on TV

From: Keith Privett  <Keith@PRIVETT.COM>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:56am
Subject: Re: Your Show of Shows correction

Don't feel bad, the WWTBAMillionaire writers made the same mistake...

--- markevanier <me@e...> wrote:
> >On this day... in 1950, a Saturday night institution begins
> >as the very first of four years worth of "Your Show of Shows"
> >hits the airwaves with Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Carl Reiner
> >and Howard Morris in front of the cameras and at one point or
> >another, the writing talents of Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, Larry
> >Gelbart and Woody Allen backstage.
> 
> ME: Larry Gelbart and Woody Allen never had anything to do with YOUR 
> SHOW OF SHOWS.  They worked on later Caesar projects.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TVBarn2: America's funniest TV chat room.
> Goodbye: tvbarn2-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
>  
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 


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From: tomalhe  <tomalhe@aol.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:17am
Subject: Remote Patrol: Skyrockets in flight, afternoon delight!

PBS "Nova" (8 PM) explores ancient fish that could walk ... 
which is pretty good even for Abe Vigoda these days.

	NBC hopes you'll watch all 8 minutes of commercials credits 
and lounge singer Julia Louis-Dreyfus and that guy from "The Daily 
Show" on "Watching Ellie" (8:30 PM)


	On CBS "JAG," (8 PM) Mr. JAG bombs Afghanistan. USA! USA! 
USA! 

	Gaines' boss finally loses patience with Gaines' ineffective 
pursuit of Jack, as Jack turns the tables. Also, Nina and Tony learn 
the plot to assassinate Sen. Palmer goes deeper than they had 
realized, while Sen. Palmer gets surprising news from Maureen 
Kingsley from "Noon-1 PM" on FOX's "24" (9 PM).

	The History Channel begins a four part look as Queen 
"Elizabeth" (9 PM) based on the book "Elizabeth: The Struggle for the 
Throne."

	American Cinematheque "Salutes Nicolas Cage" (9 PM) in a 
taped ceremony from Beverly Hills on TNT.

	"100 Centre Street" (10 PM) continues on A&E for a few more 
weeks. Tonight, people wisely consider changing jobs. 

Destiny's Child goes one on one with Jules Asner on E!'s "Revealed" 
(10 PM). 

UNNECESSARY GUEST STAR PATROL 
FOX's "That '70s Show" (8 PM) Christopher Masterson, brother of 
"'70s" Danny Masterson. Plot: Jackie cheats on Kelso with a cheese 
shop manager 

NBC's "Frasier" (9 PM) Michael Keaton.  Plot: Lilith's brother needs 
money.

From: spowers934  <spowers934@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:31am
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Jay Lewis <lewisj@n...> wrote:
> At 06:09 PM 2/25/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >--- In tvbarn2@y..., "cdthomas1999" <cdthomas1999@y...> wrote:
> > > What other show had a main character killed off in the first
> >episode?
> 
> LA Law had "Chaney" dead in the pilot/first episode.
> 
> "Chaney" was the mysterious partner whose name was never
> removed from the firm's title "McKenzie-Brackman-Chaney"
> and all of the other incarnations throughout.
> 
A nitpick from an "L.A. Law" fan: Norm Chaney's name was retained in 
the firm name for the show's first six seasons. Then, it was dropped 
in season seven when the firm got the unwieldy name of "McKenzie, 
Brackman, Becker, Kelsey, Markowitz, and Morales". Can't blame you 
for not remembering, though -- only the die-hards were watching at 
that point.

From: David Feldman  <feldman@imponderables.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 11:00am
Subject: Gone in First Episode

> What other show had a main character killed off in the first episode?

Sort of killed off:  John Goodman, the best-known actor, in "Now & 
Again'" first episode.

From: Wes McGee  <DavenportIAS@netscape.net>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:04pm
Subject: "Bias" vs. "Daily Howler"

AB is right that there is very little discussion of Bernard Goldberg's 
"Bias" in the media circles. I wish there was, because there seems to be 
some kinks in modern journalism. Though to me it looks to be less of a 
case of institutional [liberal] biases than it is with sheer laziness. 
And if The Daily Howler is correct, this is ironic since, according to 
him, his book suffers the same faults.

Bob Somerby, comedian and former op-ed writer (and--if we must--friend 
of Al Gore), decided to become journalism's fact-checker at his site 
http://www.dailyhowler.com .(Today's feature -- Did Ken Lay spend time 
with Clinton in the Lincoln Bedroom?)

If you look for Bernie Goldberg's name on the front page (the site is 
kinda sorted by episode and date, rather than topic) there are seven 
links discussing "Bias".

Here, I'll quote a bit of Bias/Howler that is more comic than anything 
else...
 From Somerby, "Bugging Bernie", The Daily Howler, 2002 Jan 12, 
http://www.dailyhowler.com/h011202_1.shtml

> For sheer entertainment, one cite takes the cake. In Chapter 9, Bernie 
> goes on--and on; and on--about the way the mainstream press mistreats 
> men. At one point, he shakes his fist at the New York Times. . . . He 
> supplies a wounding example:
>
> GOLDBERG (page 134): Take a story by Times reporter Natalie Angier 
> that begins this way: "Women may not find this surprising, but one of 
> the most persistent and frustrating problems in evolutionary biology 
> is the male. Specifically...why doesn't he just go away?" [Goldberg's 
> ellipsis]
>
> So we checked Angier's piece, and what did we find? We found an 
> 1800-word article in the "Science Desk" section, written back in 1994, 
> which explored the biological reasons for sexual reproduction among 
> the lesser orders. . . . The article had absolutely nothing to do with 
> males and females of our tribe ("men" and "women"). Indeed, here's a 
> part of the wicked horse-whipping we "males" were receiving this day:
>
> ANGIER: But evolutionary biologists point out that most mutations are 
> potential trouble, and the entire system of copying chromosomes from 
> one generation to the next has evolved to prevent accidental 
> alterations to the genetic text, not to court them. Thus, Dr. 
> Redfield's new calculations underscoring the mutational guilt of the 
> male put a heavier burden than ever on theorists seeking to explain 
> the purpose of sex.
>

Anyway, Bernie's book was written to expose liberal bias in the media, 
but many of his less comic anecdotes either doesn't support that thesis, 
or even counters the thesis.

If you dig through "Daily Howler" you'll find many many cases of where 
the media and journalist appear to have fallen down on the jobs as 
fact-checkers, which is worse a crime than exibiting bias.

--Wesley McGee



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From: Jason Snell  <jsnell@intertext.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:39pm
Subject: Re: Re: Angel and Verizon

An aside that we may have even already talked about here -- I don't remember.

The "Alias" premiere was commercial-free and sponsored by Nokia. In 
that pilot, the main character's Nokia cellphone -- and its 
distinctive Nokia ringtone! -- was a key element of the plot at a few 
different points. And has continued to be, to some degree, as the 
series goes on.

Hey, if this is what they need to do to let me keep my TiVo, I'll take it. :-)

-jason
-- 
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Visit TeeVee! http://www.teevee.org/

From: Anthony Foglia  <afoglia@physics.ucsb.edu>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:46pm
Subject: Re: Gone in First Episode

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, David Feldman wrote:

> 
> > What other show had a main character killed off in the first episode?
> 
> Sort of killed off:  John Goodman, the best-known actor, in "Now & 
> Again'" first episode.

	Actually I'm embarrassed I forgot about this one till now.  "Due 
South."  Gordon Pinsent's Robert Fraser character was killed in the first 
scene of the first episode, then came back as a ghost in a few episodes 
later that season, a few the next, and then became a regular the last two 
(half-length) seasons.

	One of the few cases where a character's role expanded after his 
death.

--Anthony

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"[...]Men and women do not have the same definition of the term 'a man 
with a sense of humor.'  To men, it means 'a man who thinks a lot of 
stuff is funny.' Whereas to women, it means 'a man who talks and looks 
kind of like Hugh Grant.'" -- Dave Barry

From: anncarrigan  <symposium1@aol.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:57pm
Subject: FOX wonders: What if Celebrity Deathmatch weren't Claymation?

-- and presumably, not as funny...

<<Six of the nation's most controversial and entertaining 
celebrities -- Danny Bonaduce, Barry Williams, Tonya Harding, Amy 
Fisher and two others TBA -- will slug it out in the boxing ring for 
athletic supremacy in the original special CELEBRITY BOXING!

Produced by dick clark productions, CELEBRITY BOXING will give these 
brash-talking and chest-thumping celebrities the opportunity to rough 
each other up in the ring.  

The first card pits a Partridge against a Brady, as Danny Bonaduce 
boxes Barry Williams. The second card is the battle of the bad girls, 
with Tonya Harding challenging Amy Fisher. Celebrities comprising the 
third card are TBA.>>

Can I hope for Lewinsky versus Flowers? 

This extremely FOX-ified special will air WEDNESDAY, MARCH 13, 2002, 
from 9:00-10:00pm (ET/PT). It'll follow two hand-picked encores, 
boxing-fighting themed episodes of The Simpsons and Bernie Mac. 

Yikes-and-a-half.

--Ann

From: clstamper  <clstamper@aol.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:20pm
Subject: Sorkin's New Yorker Rant

Is it online anywhere?

From: Jeffries, Mark  <mjeffries@krw.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:21pm
Subject: RE: Sorkin's New Yorker Rant

> Is it online anywhere?

The article that contains the rant is linked on the TV Barn home page under
"Other Headlines."

Mark Jeffries
mjeffries@k...
mjsaints@a...


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From: Darren Glass  <glassd@math.upenn.edu>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:35pm
Subject: main characters dying in premieres...

...and lest we forget Laura Palmer on Twin Peaks.  Which is of course an
interesting case because while she never reappeared much in ghost form
(other than two or three visits in the Red Room), her identical cousin
Maddy showed up played by the same actress.

darren

From: Jay Lewis  <lewisj@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:37pm
Subject: Re: FOX wonders: What if Celebrity Deathmatch weren't Claymation?

At 07:57 PM 2/26/02 +0000, you wrote:
>-- and presumably, not as funny...
>
><<Six of the nation's most controversial and entertaining
>celebrities -- Danny Bonaduce, Barry Williams, Tonya Harding, Amy
>Fisher and two others TBA -- will slug it out in the boxing ring for
>athletic supremacy in the original special CELEBRITY BOXING!
>
>Produced by dick clark productions, CELEBRITY BOXING

Who is in charge at dcp?  First 'The Chamber' (which I kinda like
but I'm in a huge minority) and now this?

I thought dcp did family oriented shows and not sensationalistic
clap-trap?  Or, is this the direction the young Clarks are taking
the company in?


I guess the time has come to stop expecting quality programming
from the legends of TV-dom.


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From: Steve Rhodes  <srhodes@well.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:41pm
Subject: RE: Sorkin's New Yorker Rant

Yeah, as Mark said I linked it under other headlines on Sunday.

 But just in case it falls off the main page, the url is 

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/?020304ta_talk_friend

From: anncarrigan  <symposium1@aol.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:10pm
Subject: Re: main characters dying in premieres...

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Darren Glass <glassd@m...> wrote:
> 
> ...and lest we forget Laura Palmer on Twin Peaks.  Which is of 
course an
> interesting case because while she never reappeared much in ghost 
form
> (other than two or three visits in the Red Room), her identical 
cousin
> Maddy showed up played by the same actress.
> 
> darren

Is it a "given" that the character appear -- in ghost form or 
reincarnated in some way? I was thinking of "Under Suspicion" (1994, 
CBS) which killed off two of its lead characters in the two-hour 
premiere. Frank Fusco continued to be a very real entity in the lives 
of his coworkers even though he didn't come back. Neither did Eriq La 
Salle's character of "LeBlanc" who also died, leaving his partner 
guilt-ridden.

A palpable talent connection between "Under Suspicion" and "ER". Eriq 
la Salle, Paul McCrane, Michael Beach.

--Ann

From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:23pm
Subject: Cher on Dave Weds.

THIS JUST IN...

...from CBS Entertainment

NEW YORK, Feb. 26 -- Grammy and Oscar winner Cher visits David Letterman for
the tenth time when she appears on the LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN,
Wednesday, Feb. 27. In addition to talking to Letterman, Cher will perform
her new single, "Song for the Lonely," from her new album Living Proof,
which was released in stores today. Cher's previous appearances with
Letterman have resulted in some of the most unforgettable moments in
Letterman's 20-year late night history. On her very first appearance, May
22, 1986, the songstress stunned the late night host when she called him an
"ass****." And, on Nov. 13, 1987, in an unforgettable appearance, Cher and
her former husband, Sonny Bono, performed together for the first time in 10
years, singing their classic hit, "I Got You Babe."  Cher's appearance on
the LATE SHOW follows the "The 44th Annual Grammy Awards," which will be
broadcast that night from 8:00 to 11:30 PM (live ET/delayed PT) on the CBS
Television Network. The LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN, presented weeknights
(11:35 PM-12:37 AM, ET/PT) on the Network, is a production of Worldwide
Pants Incorporated. Maria Pope, Barbara Gaines and Rob Burnett are the
executive producers.

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From: Mh2328@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 11:25am
Subject: The Job on Comedy Central

Comedy Central will televise the first six episodes of The Job during the
week of March 4.  
Sue H.

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Tuesday February 26, 1:00 pm Eastern TimePress Release

SOURCE: DreamWorks SKG

Comedy Central to Re-Broadcast First Season of Critically Acclaimed ABC 
Comedy Series 'The Job,' Starring Denis Leary

Network to Program 'The Job' Following 'The Daily Show With Jon Stewart' From 
March 4-7, Followed by Two-Hour Marathon March 10

Unusual Collaboration Made Possible By Leary's Longstanding Relationship With 
Comedy Central

LOS ANGELES, Feb. 26 /PRNewswire/ -- Comedy Central will broadcast the 
six-episode first season of the critically acclaimed ABC Television Network 
comedy series ``The Job,'' starring Denis Leary as New York City detective 
Mike McNeil, it was announced today by Bill Hilary, executive vice president 
and general manager, Comedy Central. From Monday, March 4 thru Thursday, 
March 7, Comedy Central will air an episode of ``The Job'' at 11:30 pm ET/PT, 
following the Emmy Award-winning ``The Daily Show With Jon Stewart.'' On 
Sunday, March 10, Comedy Central will broadcast a four-episode, two-hour 
``Job'' marathon from 8:00 - 10:00 pm ET/PT, hosted by ``The Job'' cast 
members Denis Leary, Lenny Clarke and Adam Ferrara.``

"This is an interesting, low-risk experiment for us to see how well an 
on-brand, off-network comedy/drama series like 'The Job' will perform on 
Comedy Central since it is a format we are developing for the future,'' said 
Bill Hilary, executive vice president and general manager, Comedy Central. 
``Denis Leary, with whom we have worked on a number of occasions in the past, 
possesses exactly the kind of edgy comic sensibility our audience has come to 
expect from us.''

``We were in a meeting with ABC, brainstorming ways to seek added exposure 
for 'The Job,' and the idea of a second broadcast window came up,'' said 
Justin Falvey, co-head of DreamWorks Television. ``Jim Serpico (Denis Leary's 
producing partner and an executive producer of ''The Job``) suggested Comedy 
Central, and ABC graciously agreed to allow us to set up this unusual but 
exciting promotional opportunity.''

``Denis and I have enjoyed a relationship with Comedy Central for more than 
10 years, and we didn't have to think twice about where to take this,'' said 
Jim Serpico, executive producer of ``The Job'' and a principal in Apostle, 
one of the show's production companies. ``The Comedy Central run gives us the 
chance to reach viewers who may not have had the opportunity to see 'The Job' 
in its very competitive timeslot opposite 'The West Wing.'''

In ``The Job,'' Denis Leary stars as Detective Mike McNeil, a decorated NYC 
detective whose toughest assignment is himself. His unconventional approach 
to fighting crime makes him a great cop but takes a toll on his personal 
life. Also starring are Lenny Clarke as Frank Harrigan, Diane Farr as Jan 
Fendrich, Adam Ferrara as Tommy Manetti, Bill Nunn as Pip Phillips and John 
Ortiz as Ruben Sommariba. Guest starring are Keith David as Lt. Williams, 
Julian Acosta as Al, Karyn Parsons as Toni and Wendy Makkena as Karen McNeil.

Following is the Comedy Central broadcast schedule for ``The Job'' --Monday, 
March 4, 11:30 pm ET/PT -- The Pilot: Cutting-edge actor-comedian Denis Leary 
(``The Thomas Crown Affair,'' ``The Ref'') stars in the single-camera, 
half-hour comedy series shot entirely on location in New York and New Jersey. 
The program unites Leary with Emmy Award-winning writer Peter Tolan (``The 
Larry Sanders Show''). They created a new comedy series about Mike McNeil 
(Leary), a tough New York City detective whose roughest assignment is 
himself. He's struggling to balance a challenging personal life with a job 
that leaves him wondering, on a daily basis, if he is the last sane person in 
New York. His unconventional approach to his job makes him a great cop, even 
on the most trying days. The only thing he can't figure out is why, if he's 
the only sane guy around, everyone's always looking at him like he's crazy. 
``The Job'' was written by Denis Leary & Peter Tolan, and directed by Dean 
Parisot.

Tuesday, March 5, 11:30 pm ET/PT -- 'Foot': A bag with a severed foot inside 
is found in front of a doorman building, prompting a visit to some mob 
contacts -- and a few practical jokes. McNeil secretly does a background 
check on Jan's new boyfriend, and McNeil's girlfriend, Toni, needs help after 
she is groped on the subway. 'Foot' was written by Daphne Pollon and directed 
by Tucker Gates.

Wednesday, March 6, 11:30 pm ET/PT -- 'Massage': When McNeil is told to check 
out a massage parlor, he feels the need to sample the services to see if it's 
legit, as do the other men in the precinct. Meantime, Jan's new arrest, a 
homeless man, turns out to be a high school classmate; and a grateful senior 
citizen has designs on Ruben. 'Massage' was written by Peter Tolan & Denis 
Leary, and directed by Tucker Gates.

Thursday, March 7, 11:30 pm ET/PT -- 'Bathroom': All hell breaks lose when 
Frank loses a perp inside the precinct. While on his way to the bathroom in 
desperate need of relief, McNeil finds the perp but becomes his hostage at 
gunpoint. Will McNeil get out in time to go to his marriage counseling 
session? Meantime, Ruben and Al are sent on a mysterious mission. 'Bathroom' 
was written by Peter Tolan and Denis Leary, and directed by Tucker Gates.

Sunday, March 10, 8:00 pm ET/PT -- 'Elizabeth': Actress and model Elizabeth 
Hurley is being harassed and all the guys in the precinct want to be assigned 
to her case. McNeil wins out in more ways than one -- he heads up the 
investigation and Elizabeth asks him out. Meantime, millionaire mogul Donald 
Trump makes a cameo appearance during McNeil's date, and Pip's wife, Adinah, 
makes a stand against McNeil. Elizabeth Hurley guest-stars. 'Elizabeth' was 
written by Peter Tolan and Denis Leary, and was directed by Tucker Gates.

Sunday, March 10, 8:30 pm ET/PT -- 'Anger': Mike's ugly altercation with a 
cab driver is captured on video and broadcast on TV. Now he must attend anger 
management classes and, to make matters worse, he has chosen this week to 
quit smoking and drinking. Meantime, Ruben's mother wants him to apologize to 
a perp after Ruben shoots him. 'Anger' was written by Mike Martineau and 
directed by Tucker Gates. 
  



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From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 0:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: Angel and Verizon

>   I posted a Hollywood Reporter story to other headlines that an episode
>   of My Life and Kids will have the movie "ET" as a major plot point. 
>   Universal has paid for that to promote the re-issue of the movie and
>   there will also be a 15 second ad for the film.

or as Zentertainment put it : Talk about product placemEnT, ABC's MY WIFE AND 
KIDS will dEvoTe an EnTire episode March 20 to thE characTers love of the 
movie E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL, which just so happEns To be hEading To 
thEaTers the following Friday with a rEmasTered reEdiTEd prinT. The Hollywood 
REporTEr noTEs That UnivErsal STudios has paid wEll for ThE mulTiple mEnTions.

From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:57pm
Subject: Kevin Smith short to debut on Leno

NBC'S 'THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO' DEBUTS ITS FIRST SHORT FILM 
PRODUCED BY KEVIN SMITH


	To Be Telecast Wednesday, February 27, 2002 (11:35 p.m.-12:35 a.m. ET)


	NBC's 'The Tonight Show with Jay Leno' will air its first 
commissioned short film on Wednesday, February 27 with the broadcast 
of 'The Flying Car,' a six minute short created by filmmaker Kevin 
Smith ('Chasing Amy').  The film marks the first time a theatrical 
short has aired on 'The Tonight Show.'

The comedic short stars Brian O'Halloran and Jeff Anderson, who will 
reprise their roles from Smith's breakthrough comedy 'Clerks.'

Smith, whose credits include, writer, producer and director of 
'Dogma,' has made two recent appearances on 'The Tonight Show' to 
present his comedic travelogue pieces entitled 'Roadside Attractions 
with Kevin Smith,' which provide tongue-in-cheek looks at the public 
oddities that dot the American landscape. This summer, Smith intends 
to shoot his next feature, the Miramax Films produced 'Jersey Girl.'

Model Heidi Klum and music by Nora Jones will also appear as guests 
on February 27.

'The Tonight Show with Jay Leno' is from Big Dog Productions in 
association with NBC Studios.  Debbie Vickers is the executive 
producer for 'The Tonight Show.'  Gary Considine is the executive 
producer for NBC 
Studios.

From: squid4brains  <squid4brains@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:12pm
Subject: Watching Ellie

I observed all the promos for "Wathing Ellie" during the Olympics, 
and from what I can determine from NBC's expert marketing slant, the 
show will feature lots of cleavage, breasts, and possibly tits.

Anybody know what the show is actually about?

From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:13pm
Subject: MTV adding digital channels

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From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:14pm
Subject: Resend: MTV adding digital channels

MTV NETWORKS EXPANDS SUITE OF CHANNELS FOR DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION WITH FOUR
NEW OFFERINGS FOR KIDS AND MUSIC FANS

MTV HITS AND NICKTOONS TV TO DEBUT ON CABLEVISION SYSTEMS


Santa Monica, CA, February 26, 2002 - MTV Networks, a division of Viacom
Inc. (VIA and VIA.B) today announced that the company is expanding its suite
of channels available for digital distribution, launching four new 24-hour
channels for kids and music fans.   The new channels include MTV Hits, MTV
Jams, Nicktoons TV and VH1 Mega Hits, expanding and strengthening MTV
Networks' digital offerings to thirteen services.  In addition to carrying
MTVN's core digital services, Cablevision is the first operator to sign on
for services from the new package and to add MTV Hits and Nicktoons TV to
their iO: Interactive Optimum digital service line-up.

"Each of these channels was created in response to our audience's tastes and
demands. We believe these new channels will help our affiliates as they
continue to expand their digital business and help them grow their cable
modem business. It's clear that our audiences are early adaptors and cable
modem users. They are already moving seamlessly between television and the
Internet and they are looking for applications that make it easier to move
from screen to screen. These new channels provide them with that
experience," said Tom Freston, Chairman and CEO, MTV Networks.

"We are thrilled that Cablevision stepped up first by signing up for MTV
Hits and Nicktoons TV and we look forward to working with them to roll-out
these new digital services and providing their subscribers with more of the
music they crave and Nickelodeon cartoons they love," said Nicole Browning,
President Affiliate Sales & Marketing.

MTVN's core digital services include: VH1 Classic featuring the greatest
music from the 60's, 70's and 80's with nearly 12 million subscribers;
Noggin, the innovative, commercial free educational network from Nickelodeon
and Sesame Workshop, now available in over 22 million homes; and Nickelodeon
Games and Sports (GAS) with 10 million subscribers. Nick Too, VH1 Country,
VH1 Soul, VH Uno, and MTV Espa�ol complete MTVN's digital offerings. MTV2,
with 40 million subscribers, has both analog and digital carriage.

New Digital Offerings
MTV Hits will program the best Pop music from some of the hottest artists
including Britney Spears, Blink-182, *NSYNC, Destiny's Child, and more.  The
24-hour digital music channel focuses on the younger end of MTV's
demographic, serving the 12-24 market with the music and artists they love.

MTV Jams will feature the best Rap, R&B, Hip-Hop, and Soul music and
artists.  This new offering will including artists such as Alicia Keys,
Jay-Z, India Arie, DMX, R Kelly, and more.  MTV Jams will replace MTV X
across all digital cable services.

Nicktoons TV, the first ever 24 hour channel devoted to Nickelodeon
animation, encompassing the cartoon world created by the number one network
for kids, will feature everything from classic Nick originals like Doug and
Ren & Stimpy to their cutting edge counterparts like Jimmy Neutron.
Nicktoons TV will replace Nick Too in some areas on the west coast.

VH1 Mega Hits, an all video channel featuring the biggest hits from all
popular genres from the 90's and today giving music fans a destination
24-hours and day, seven days a week, for the VH1 music and artists they
love.  The channel will feature artists such as Creed, Aerosmith, Dave
Matthews Band, Janet Jackson, Jewel, Goo Goo Dolls, No Doubt, Madonna, Lenny
Kravitz, Jewel, Mary J Blige, Sheryl Crow, Bon Jovi, Nirvana.

MTV Networks owns and operates the cable television programming services
MTV: Music Television, MTV2, Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite, TV Land, VH1, CMT:
Country Music Television, and TNN, as well as The Digital Suite from MTV
Networks, a package of thirteen digital services, all of which are
trademarks of MTV Networks.  MTV Networks also operates and offers joint
ventures, licensing agreements and syndication deals whereby its programming
can be seen worldwide.

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From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:15pm
Subject: ESPN offers 'Season on the Brink Lite'

ESPN has decided to simulcast on ESPN and ESPN2 the telecast of the premiere
of  "A Season on the Brink" on March 10.  The ESPN version will be in its
original, unedited form.  The version on ESPN2 will be edited to cover or
"bleep" over some of the language. Even as edited, both versions of the film
contain intense, adult language that is sometimes associated with sports
team locker rooms, practices and game situations and is consistent with the
book upon which the movie is based.  We have published parental advisory
notices in all promotions and advertising for the movie.  We will continue
to do so and will also provide notice of the alternative versions available.
We will emphasize viewer and parental discretion on air prior to the movie
and during commercial breaks.  The simulcasts will give viewers the option
to watch the version most suited to their individual taste.  The ESPN
presentation is rated TVMA-L; the ESPN2 version TV14-L.

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From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:17pm
Subject: NBC conference call

NBC'S SCOTT SASSA, JEFF ZUCKER DISCUSS NETWORK'S SEASON-LONG 
DOMINANCE AND TOTAL FEBRUARY SWEEPS RATINGS WIN -- AND ANNOUNCE 
FUTURE PROGRAMMING -- IN MEDIA CONFERENCE CALL


NBC'S SCOTT SASSA, JEFF ZUCKER DISCUSS NETWORK'S SEASON-LONG 
DOMINANCE AND TOTAL FEBRUARY SWEEPS RATINGS WIN -- AND ANNOUNCE 
FUTURE PROGRAMMING -- IN MEDIA CONFERENCE CALL

Network Executives Also Welcome "Friends" Executive Producers Kevin 
Bright, Marta Kauffman and David Crane to Spotlight Top-rated Series' 
Return for Ninth Season


BURBANK - February 26, 2002 - NBC hosted a national media conference 
call with Scott Sassa, President, NBC West Coast, and Jeff Zucker, 
President, NBC Entertainment, to discuss NBC's ratings dominance of 
the 2001-02 season, the soon-to-be-concluded February sweeps and 
other key programming announcements.

Sassa and Zucker were joined by the Kevin Bright, Marta Kauffman and 
Kevin Crane, executive producers of "Friends," to discuss the recent 
renewal of the top-rated series for a ninth season in 2002-03.

The highlights of the call follow:

Sassa began the session by detailing the scope of NBC's ratings 
preeminence for both the season and sweep period.

--This season, NBC's lead over second-place Fox is 1.2 ratings point 
among adults 18-49 - the largest network differential in four years 
--The concluding February sweeps mark the eighth consecutive NBC win 
among adults 18-49 --During the sweeps, NBC won 21 consecutive nights 
(almost 22) among adults 18-49 - marking the longest winning streak 
in history --The past two weeks are the most-watched among total 
viewers since the Atlanta Summer Olympics in 1996 --Prior to the 
Winter Olympics, NBC won six out of seven of the non-Super Bowl 
nights of the sweep --Out of 10 non-Olympic or Super Bowl sweep 
night, NBC is projecting a 6.4 rating among adults 18-49; the closest 
rival network is 4.9 --NBC has 12 of the top 25 series among adults 
18-49 this season

Zucker also noted or made the following announcements: --Conan 
O'Brien has signed a new four-year deal with NBC to continue as host 
of "Late Night with Conan O'Brien," thus extending his previous 
10-year run as host (full release posted on NBC's Media Village) 
--"Watching Ellie," which has attracted positive reviews and stars 
Julie Louis-Dreyfus, premieres tonight (February 26) while "Leap of 
Faith" premieres on Thursday, Feb. 28 (8:30-9 p.m. ET) --"The Colin 
Quinn Show," a new, live topical sketch comedy, will premiere Monday, 
March 11 (9:30-10 p.m. ET) for a three-week run.  Also on March 11, a 
new 90-minute celebrity edition of "Fear Factor" (8-9:30 p.m. ET) 
will lead-in to "Quinn" featuring such contestants as Stephen 
Baldwin, Kevin Richardson of the Backstreet Boys and Ali Landry. 
Rounding out the night will be a special "OESaturday Night Live' 
Remembers John Belushi," hosted by Tina Fey and Jimmy Fallon, marking 
the 20th anniversary of the death of Belushi --"Third Watch" and "ER" 
will share a first-ever crossover episode --Eriq La Salle will return 
to guest-star on "ER" as a sendoff to fellow series regular Anthony 
Edwards, who will be leaving the series at the end of the season --In 
May, Oscar winner Michael Douglas will guest-star on "Will & Grace" 
as a gay policeman --In addition to the previously announced live 75 
anniversary celebration special on Sunday, May 5, NBC will also 
feature a reunion of the "The Cosby Show," an "L.A Law" reunion 
movie, a retrospective of Bob Hope's creative contributions to the 
network as hosted by Kelsey Grammer ("Frasier"), Jay Leno's 10th 
anniversary show, and a two-hour retrosective of "Must See TV" as 
produced by Gay Rosenthal of VH1's "Behind the Music" --As part of 
the 75th anniversary celebration, NBC will spotlight past stars such 
as the "St. Elsewhere" cast who will appear on "Scrubs" and Melissa 
Gilbert ("Little House on the Prairie") on "Providence" (other 
crossovers of classic and contemporary series will be announced later)

Said Sassa: "It is really no surprise that we dominated February 
outside of the Olympics because that's what we've been doing all 
season.  We're number-one for the season in 18-49 which is the thing 
that we covet most - and we're number-one in some other trivial demos 
of 18-34, 25-54 and total viewers.  And we're the only major network 
that's up this season versus last season in 18-49.  Now our lead over 
second place is 1.2 ratings points over Fox and that's the biggest 
lead of any network in four years.  It's not because of the Olympics, 
if we take away, if we consider all the regular programming, we're 
still 1.2 rating points ahead of Fox in 18-49.

"We've got 12 of the top 25 programs among adults 18-49 and they're 
spread across five nights of the schedule.  We've got the number-one 
rated new comedy in OEScrubs,' the number-one rated new drama in 
OECrossing Jordan,' and OECrossing Jordan' is the number-one new show 
on any network in any measure you want to go with.  Since adding 
OEFear Factor' to our Monday-night lineup...we're now in the hunt. 
OEFear Factor' has now increased that hour by 51 percent and OEThird 
Watch' behind it has gone up 21 percent in that following hour.

"We're also number one in regular programming on Tuesday nights and 
we're dominating Wednesday, Thursday and Friday nights.  That means 
five nights of the week we're in first place and challenging for 
first.  And OEFriends' remains a real phenomenon.  In its eighth 
season, it's the fastest-growing comedy off a huge base, it's up 15 
percent in 18-49 and Thursday remains the highest-rated night. 
OEFriends' remains red-hot in February with special guest star such 
as Matt Damon who brought record ratings to OEWill & Grace.' 
Finally, all three OELaw & Order'dramas are winning their hours in 
total viewers and the two established OELaw & Orders' are having 
their best numbers ever."

Sassa also had good news from NBC's non-primetime programs.  "In 
other dayparts, we're number one once again in latenight.  The 
OETonight Show' has now won 24 straight sweeps in 18-49 and OEConan' 
remains undefeated in its time period.  We're also number one in 
morning news, evening news and Saturday morning public affairs shows. 
Our daytime lineup is on track to win February among women 18-49, 
which would be the fifth time in seven sweeps, including some ties. 
And as we said, NBC Sports had a great month with the Olympics, and 
it's important to note another nice milestone was that the Daytona 
500 had the highest-rated telecast in 18 years of being on TV."

Zucker emphasized NBC's strong performance throughout the season 
apart from the welcomed Olympics boost - one that is projected to put 
NBC ahead at season's end by the largest margin of any network in 
four years.

Said Zucker: "It's a great time for us.  We were having a spectacular 
season prior to the Olympics and now the tremendous performance of 
the Olympics has set us up to close out the season in a great way. 
What I want to do this morning is look ahead.  But I want to 
emphasize again one thing that Scott said because it's so important. 
We will win this season by the largest margin of victory by any 
network in four years.  This in a season that many had predicted 
would mark the end of NBC's dominance.  Instead, our dominance has 
only grown and the fact is we would have had this huge margin even 
without the Olympics.  The Olympics, of course, has made it even 
bigger."

In summation of NBC's promising future in all dayparts, Zucker said: 
"We're obviously thrilled at the position we find ourselves in today. 
And as we go forward, I think the story that we see is one of 
continued stability.  A new deal with Katie Couric means that we'll 
continue to be the leader of the morning; a new deal with Conan 
O'Brien means that we'll continue to be the leader in late night; and 
the new deal with OEFriends' means that we'll continue to be dominant 
in primetime."

In addition, Zucker also welcomed Bright, Kauffman and Crane of 
"Friends" as he lauded the resurgent series.  The creative team 
admitted that they are still debating how the popular comedy will 
conclude this season before they consider the next.  However, they 
confirmed that the character of Rachel (Jennifer Aniston) will give 
birth to a baby in the season finale in May.

The producers also joined NBC in announcing that Alec Baldwin ("Pearl 
Harbor") will guest-star in an episode of "Friends" on Thursday, 
March 28 (8-8:30 p.m. ET) as a new boyfriend for Phoebe (Lisa Kudrow).

Said Kauffman: "We are absolutely overjoyed that we're going to be 
able to do this for another year."
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From: tomalhe@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:26pm
Subject: Re: Watching Ellie

In a message dated 2/26/02 6:18:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
squid4brains@y... writes:

> Anybody know what the show is actually about?

It's about 22 minutes long

From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:31pm
Subject: Re: Watching Ellie

Go to tvbarn.com, read my review, and congratulate yourself on your insight.


>I observed all the promos for "Wathing Ellie" during the Olympics,
>and from what I can determine from NBC's expert marketing slant, the
>show will feature lots of cleavage, breasts, and possibly tits.
>
>Anybody know what the show is actually about?
>
>
>
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From: pmurray63  <pmurray@bigfoot.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:01pm
Subject: Re: Watching Ellie

I like Julia Louis-Dreyfus... and I know that first episodes can be 
poor indicators (I remember the first episode of Frasier making me 
wary). So I'll give it at least one more chance. But so far I am 
quite underwhelmed.

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From: ken roberts  <kenroberts@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:08pm
Subject: RE: FOX wonders: What if Celebrity Deathmatch weren't Claymation?

Ann Carrigan wrote:
>
> Six of the nation's most controversial and entertaining
> celebrities -- Danny Bonaduce,

FYI, Bonaduce already did the celebrity boxing thing back in 1994 when
he won a controversial decision over Donny Osmond:

http://www.grudge-match.com/Real/danny-donny.html

-ken, kills his brain cells with trivial crap instead of beer

From: pmurray63  <pmurray@bigfoot.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:10pm
Subject: Re: FOX wonders: What if Celebrity Deathmatch weren't Claymation?

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Jay Lewis <lewisj@n...> wrote:
> At 07:57 PM 2/26/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >-- and presumably, not as funny...
> >
> ><<Six of the nation's most controversial and entertaining
> >celebrities -- Danny Bonaduce, Barry Williams, Tonya Harding, Amy
> >Fisher and two others TBA -- will slug it out in the boxing ring 
for
> >athletic supremacy in the original special CELEBRITY BOXING!
> >
> >Produced by dick clark productions, CELEBRITY BOXING
> 
> Who is in charge at dcp?  First 'The Chamber' (which I kinda like
> but I'm in a huge minority) and now this?
> 
> I thought dcp did family oriented shows and not sensationalistic
> clap-trap?  Or, is this the direction the young Clarks are taking
> the company in?

dcp has been perpetrating crap with Fox for some time now. They did 
the first WWTBAM knock-off too (mercifully I have forgotten its name).

Oddly enough, their web site [http://www.dickclarkproductions.com/] 
does not mention any of these true classics.

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From: Sue Trowbridge  <trow@interbridge.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:33pm
Subject: Re: NBC conference call

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Aaron Barnhart wrote:

> "The Colin Quinn Show," a new, live topical sketch comedy, will
> premiere Monday, March 11 (9:30-10 p.m. ET) for a three-week run.

Ooh, a three-week run -- showing real faith there, fellas. Not too
surprising, considering that unless I'm mistaken, prime time sketch comedy
hasn't done well since the days of "In Living Color." (I'm counting Wayne
Brady's summer series as as variety show, not sketch comedy.)

> Also on March 11, a 
> new 90-minute celebrity edition of "Fear Factor" (8-9:30 p.m. ET) 
> will lead-in to "Quinn" featuring such contestants as Stephen 
> Baldwin, Kevin Richardson of the Backstreet Boys and Ali Landry. 

Whoa, I'm blinded by the star power!

OK, enough sarcasm. I'm excited because someone is sending me a VHS copy
of "An American Family," which I've always wanted to see (was too young to
catch its original go-round). Yes, the fact that I'm the webmaster of
http://www.loudfamily.com partly explains my interest.

Still curiously unexcited about Survivor 4 (probably 'cause the 3rd one
just ended),
--Sue T.

From: Anthony Foglia  <afoglia@physics.ucsb.edu>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: FOX wonders: What if Celebrity Deathmatch weren't Claymation?

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, pmurray63 wrote:

> dcp has been perpetrating crap with Fox for some time now. They did
> the first WWTBAM knock-off too (mercifully I have forgotten its name).

	I'd like to challenge Tom.  "Greed."

	And don't forget "The World Smartest Kid."

> Oddly enough, their web site [http://www.dickclarkproductions.com/]
> does not mention any of these true classics.

	Hey, if you can't make a good buck off it, it doesn't exist.

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From: Aaron Barnhart  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:42pm
Subject: Re: Re: Watching Ellie

I watched two episodes.  Don't hold your breath.

>I like Julia Louis-Dreyfus... and I know that first episodes can be
>poor indicators (I remember the first episode of Frasier making me
>wary). So I'll give it at least one more chance. But so far I am
>quite underwhelmed.
>
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From: pmurray63  <pmurray@bigfoot.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 9:35pm
Subject: Drudge sez Crossfire shakeup in the works

Take it for what it's worth.

Since his stories sometimes vanish or change URLs (making them 
unreliable to post), I'll just paste it here:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE FEB 26, 2002 19:29:02 ET XXXXX 

CNN SHAKEUP: CARVILLE, BEGALA HIRED FOR 'CROSSFIRE', BILL PRESS OUT; 
SHOW EXPANDS TO AN HOUR, BEFORE STUDIO AUDIENCE

**Exclusive** 

CNN suits are set to drastically makeover one of the network's top 
performers: CROSSFIRE will soon feature Clinton stars James Carville 
and Paul Begala from the left, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. 

Carville will host the show 1 out of 4 weeks, with Begala picking up 
the rest, according to sources. 

Robert Novak and Tucker Carlson have both committed to continue on 
the right as the show expands to an hour-long format. Executives hope 
to move the show out of the studio to an auditorium at George 
Washington University. 

MORE

CNN top Walter Isaacson is said to be the mastermind behind the 
CROSSFIRE makeover, fighting hard to sign Carville.

"Lots of money for James, and not much work," said a source close to 
the man affectionally known as the 'Ragin' Cajun'.

Carville will be paid an anni of upper-six figures, according to 
insiders. 

Host Bill Press is sent to the showers and becomes a 'CNN 
contributor'. 

The CROSSFIRE shakeup is a direct challenge to CNBCMSNBC's HARDBALL. 

MORE


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From: clstamper  <clstamper@aol.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 9:49pm
Subject: Re: Resend: MTV adding digital channels

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Aaron Barnhart <aaron@t...> wrote:

> Nicktoons TV, the first ever 24 hour channel devoted to Nickelodeon
> animation, encompassing the cartoon world created by the number one 
network
> for kids, will feature everything from classic Nick originals like 
Doug and
> Ren & Stimpy to their cutting edge counterparts like Jimmy Neutron.

Does this mean we'll see the ORIGINAL classic Nick: "Pinwheel?"

Chris

From: Tom Roche  <troche@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:18pm
Subject: Ellie

I thought "Watching Ellie" tonight was excellent, A+.

Oh my God, what on earth will America do without having a laugh track to cue them that it is OK to laugh??  Maybe they should put up a flashing super now and then that says "funny part."

Speaking of supers, our could almost hear Brad Hall and company screaming all the way from the left coast when NBC's promotion automation  put their corny "coming up next" banner right over "Ellie"'s beloved countdown clock twice during the show. I'd bet a roomful of minimalist furniture that that will NOT happen next week.

I liked all the finely-tuned steadicam work. When do you EVER see expert steadicam and clever cinematography in a half hour TV comedy? (OK,  besides "Captain Nice.") 

There's a lot of good detail in the sound mix too, which you can NOTICE 'cos there ain't canned hoo-hawing all th' damn time.

Obviously there's a big "Curb Your Enthusiasm" influence and nothing's wrong with that. Lastly Julia L-D is really funny... she is working hard... it looks to me like exhausting work. I also like the lack of an show open and the lack of a show close -- who need 'em anyway other than the Nielsen families. "HELLO YOU ARE WATCHING A NEW SHOW NOW...."

The the funniest thing of all about this episode, by far, is that NBC thought this show wasn't funny.

From: Steven Schroeder  <BagHead@concentric.net>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:49pm
Subject: Re: Ellie

Enjoy it for its seven episode run.

Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Roche" <troche@m...>
To: <tvbarn2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [tvbarn2] Ellie


> I thought "Watching Ellie" tonight was excellent, A+.
>
> Oh my God, what on earth will America do without having a laugh track to
cue them that it is OK to laugh??  Maybe they should put up a flashing super
now and then that says "funny part."
>
> Speaking of supers, our could almost hear Brad Hall and company screaming
all the way from the left coast when NBC's promotion automation  put their
corny "coming up next" banner right over "Ellie"'s beloved countdown clock
twice during the show. I'd bet a roomful of minimalist furniture that that
will NOT happen next week.
>
> I liked all the finely-tuned steadicam work. When do you EVER see expert
steadicam and clever cinematography in a half hour TV comedy? (OK,  besides
"Captain Nice.")
>
> There's a lot of good detail in the sound mix too, which you can NOTICE
'cos there ain't canned hoo-hawing all th' damn time.
>
> Obviously there's a big "Curb Your Enthusiasm" influence and nothing's
wrong with that. Lastly Julia L-D is really funny... she is working hard...
it looks to me like exhausting work. I also like the lack of an show open
and the lack of a show close -- who need 'em anyway other than the Nielsen
families. "HELLO YOU ARE WATCHING A NEW SHOW NOW...."
>
> The the funniest thing of all about this episode, by far, is that NBC
thought this show wasn't funny.
>
>
> TVBarn2: America's funniest TV chat room.
> Goodbye: tvbarn2-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
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>
>
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From: stupidfantricks  <misterdummy@aol.com>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 11:05pm
Subject: Re: Ellie

I thought the show was GREAT! It is nice to see such high quality 
programming on TV, NBC is really building a strong Tuesday night with 
Frasier and Scrubs, they should move Dateline and put Ed on Tuesday 
nights, that would make the night a whole lot better.

Something??
Watching Ellie
Frasier
Scrubs
Ed

Perfect schedule

Matt

From: Anthony Foglia  <afoglia@physics.ucsb.edu>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 11:05pm
Subject: Re: Re: Resend: MTV adding digital channels

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, clstamper wrote:

> --- In tvbarn2@y..., Aaron Barnhart <aaron@t...> wrote:
>
> > Nicktoons TV, the first ever 24 hour channel devoted to Nickelodeon
> > animation, encompassing the cartoon world created by the number one
> network
> > for kids, will feature everything from classic Nick originals like
> Doug and
> > Ren & Stimpy to their cutting edge counterparts like Jimmy Neutron.
>
> Does this mean we'll see the ORIGINAL classic Nick: "Pinwheel?"

	I'm sure someone will correct me, but I don't think "Pinwheel" was
a Nickelodeon original.  I think it was a Canadian production just like
"You Can't Do That on Television" and "Turkey Television."

--Anthony

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From: TelevisonGrl@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:39pm
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

In a message dated 2/25/2002 11:54:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
cdthomas1999@y... writes:


> What other show had a main character killed off in the first episode?
> 
I don't know if this is a main character but "CSI"'s pilot had a new trainee 
who was a big part of the episode who was shot at a crime scene in the final 
minutes of the episode.  She died and Jorja Fox replaced her.

TVG


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From: clstamper  <clstamper@aol.com>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 0:02am
Subject: Re: NBC conference call

--- In tvbarn2@y..., Aaron Barnhart <aaron@t...> wrote:
> Eriq La Salle will return  to guest-star on "ER" as a sendoff 
> to fellow series regular Anthony Edwards, who will be leaving the 
> series at the end of the season 

Prediction: unless things change radically before the end of this 
calendar year, ER will start to skid next season and the show will 
wrap in 2004, if not 2003. With Friends heading into the sunset next 
year, I suspect lots of heartburn is ahead at NBC.

Chris

From: Doug Eastick  <wumba_man@yahoo.ca>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:53am
Subject: A Canadian opinion of Oly coverage

I have posted an article on my geocities account going on about my
thinkings of the coverage.

http://www.geocities.com/wumba_man/tvb/cbc-oly.htm

If one of the tvbarn main contributors wants to write a snippet+link
for the main page, go ahead.  Of course, if you think the article is
crap, let me know too.  I wrote it on the plane, after watching the
final hockey game at the airport bar.

Thanks,
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From: Keith Privett  <Keith@PRIVETT.COM>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 3:04am
Subject: Re: FOX wonders: What if Celebrity Deathmatch weren't Claymation?

Well Bonaduce is already a DCP employee as co-host of "The Other Half" which
means our third match could be...

Mario Lopez vs. Dustin "Screech" Diamond

one can dream ;)

--- anncarrigan <symposium1@a...> wrote:
> -- and presumably, not as funny...
> 
> <<Six of the nation's most controversial and entertaining 
> celebrities -- Danny Bonaduce, Barry Williams, Tonya Harding, Amy 
> Fisher and two others TBA -- will slug it out in the boxing ring for 
> athletic supremacy in the original special CELEBRITY BOXING!
> 
> Produced by dick clark productions, CELEBRITY BOXING will give these 
> brash-talking and chest-thumping celebrities the opportunity to rough 
> each other up in the ring.  
> 
> The first card pits a Partridge against a Brady, as Danny Bonaduce 
> boxes Barry Williams. The second card is the battle of the bad girls, 
> with Tonya Harding challenging Amy Fisher. Celebrities comprising the 
> third card are TBA.>>
> 
> Can I hope for Lewinsky versus Flowers? 
> 
> This extremely FOX-ified special will air WEDNESDAY, MARCH 13, 2002, 
> from 9:00-10:00pm (ET/PT). It'll follow two hand-picked encores, 
> boxing-fighting themed episodes of The Simpsons and Bernie Mac. 
> 
> Yikes-and-a-half.
> 
> --Ann
> 
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From: lazyinny2  <lazyinny2@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 9:16am
Subject: Re: Ellie

I wasn't a fan of Ellie. That clock did nothing but annoy me. I do 
agree about Scrubs being a quality show though. I just wish NBC would 
put in on Thursday's at 8:30. 

By the way: Seeing that rendition of "Talk Dirty to Me" was an 
absolute riot last night. Classic stuff.




--- In tvbarn2@y..., "stupidfantricks" <misterdummy@a...> wrote:
> I thought the show was GREAT! It is nice to see such high quality 
> programming on TV, NBC is really building a strong Tuesday night 
with 
> Frasier and Scrubs, they should move Dateline and put Ed on Tuesday 
> nights, that would make the night a whole lot better.
> 
> Something??
> Watching Ellie
> Frasier
> Scrubs
> Ed
> 
> Perfect schedule
> 
> Matt

From: symposium1@aol.com
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 5:09am
Subject: RE: FOX wonders: What if Celebrity Deathmatch weren't Claymation?

In a message dated Tue, 26 Feb 2002  9:10:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, "ken roberts" <kenroberts@m...> writes:

> Ann Carrigan wrote:
> >
> > Six of the nation's most controversial and entertaining
> > celebrities -- Danny Bonaduce,
> 
> FYI, Bonaduce already did the celebrity boxing thing back in 1994 when
> he won a controversial decision over Donny Osmond:
> 
> http://www.grudge-match.com/Real/danny-donny.html

Disturbing, but true. Yikes!

--Ann

From: Aaron Barnhart/Star  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 10:52am
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under: not alone

This is like the telephone game ...

People, I was referring to TV shows in which a main character died in 
the first episode AND REMAINED AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE SHOW AND A 
REGULAR IN THE CAST.

So far C.D.'s the only one who's named one.


>In a message dated 2/25/2002 11:54:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>cdthomas1999@y... writes:
>
>
>>  What other show had a main character killed off in the first episode?
>>
>I don't know if this is a main character but "CSI"'s pilot had a new trainee
>who was a big part of the episode who was shot at a crime scene in the final
>minutes of the episode.  She died and Jorja Fox replaced her.
>
>TVG
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From: Aaron Barnhart/Star  <aaron@tvbarn.com>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 10:53am
Subject: Re: Re: Ellie

Actually, assuming my taste-o-meter is not on the blink, NBC will be 
well served by LEAP OF FAITH, arriving Thursday.

>I wasn't a fan of Ellie. That clock did nothing but annoy me. I do
>agree about Scrubs being a quality show though. I just wish NBC would
>put in on Thursday's at 8:30.

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